I'm so tired threads asking why Manga outsells comics cause everyone just goes "Muh SJWs", It has a small part but that's not the main reason. The real reason Manga is more popular is because it's easier to follow and adaptations actually help promote the works
>You wanna follow Boku No Hero? Just start at Volume 1 of the series and follow it linearly, You watched the anime? Well then just find the episode's Chapter equivalent and follow from there, There are spin offs but you don't need them to understand the main story >You wanna follow Spider-Man? Well there's Spider-Man Back to Basics, which is a follow up of the Superior Spider-Man which is also a follow up of Dying Wish, Doctor Octopus also is the main focus and they reference past evens so you'll have to go a bit further to get the whole picture, So you'd need to check that out too, also Spider-Man Venom INC and Maximum Carnage, Superior Spider-Man is STILL on going so you'd also need that too?, A new film is coming out, You haven't read the comics? Well good cause the director hasn't either, It's a completely serperate story
There's also the issue with status quo making all tension and death gone in comics, When Allmight loses his powers he stays like that indefinitely, when Eren goes evil in Attack on Titan it isn't a two issue arc, When Batman died in Final Crisis the writers retconned the Omega Beams to time travel so they could shoehorn a story that ends with Bruce coming back, When Red Hood finally commits another murder in Red Hood and The Outlaws, They had to establish that a bullet to the head wasn't fatal to the victim
It's not that tricky to follow cape comics. Jumping on points are there for a reason, any writer worth their salt will keep readers in the know what important information.
I think you're right about the last point with the status quo though, cape comics weren't ever meant to last as long as they have
Adam Green
>retconned the Omega Beams to time travel Wasn't a retcon, son.
Oliver Martinez
Just read your manga and shut up about it. This constant need for v/a/lidation is fucking sad.
Lincoln Gray
Much like what said, there are jumping on points. I like to think how any writer for a book isn't gonna know everything about that character. You think any writer for Batman or Spider-Man has read every book about them? Of course not, any time they reference something it has very little to do with the plot they're telling int the comic.
Jaxon Parker
capeshit is more like the comic version of tokusatsu. comics can be more fun if its social depiction is interesting and detailed but capeshit is basically about policing like tokusatsu. the depiction of the social part is incredibly poor and shallow like "my privileged hero life" "my sjw life" "my SNS life". manga doesnt do this.
manga is much more fucking detailed about social life in general and character developments like interactions with friends, family etc. its like dramas/novels or an rpg set in a modern/old society.
Jonathan Allen
Old school Amazing Spider-Man is all about the social stuff.
Asher Lee
>The real reason Manga is more popular is because it's easier to follow
Stopped reading there. Just pick up a single issue or trade with a big number 1 on the cover.
Manga is more popular in Japan because their infrastructure is perfect for it.
Manga is not more popular in the United States.
Ayden Lopez
>The real reason Manga is more popular [than comics] is because it's easier to follow But most non-Marvel and DC comics are pretty easy to get into too.
You wanna get into Hellboy? Pick up the first trade or omnibus. You wanna get into The Walking Dead? Pick up the first trade or compendium.
And so on and so forth.
Andrew Williams
if modern capeshit has modern feelings and familiar characters who can be your friends, it will sell regardless of the complicated context but it doesnt have such characters and feelings afaik. mha or any shonen has it, so every kid from every race in every country chooses it over american comics. modern people dont really need "superheros" who are perfect at everything or only police a society. the concept is old as fuck.
Adrian Lewis
Comics aren't fucking Proust or Pynchon.
You can just start reading. 99% of the time you could even start in the middle of the fucking arc and have no problem figuring out what was going on.
When I was a kid I picked up Spider-Man in the middle of an arc. I have no fucking clue what was going on, but Spidey was fighting Shocker and I thought they both looked awesome, so I read, and pretty soon I knew everything I needed to know.
This constant whining by Yas Forumsutists that the totally unique DC and Marvel universes need to be thrown away so that we can have disposable manga - almost of which fail or achieve middling success and are forgotten- is mind boggling. Why would we fucking do that, when in the US all manga sells for about a quarter or a third of just Marvel's sales? Fuck, the Big 2 comics model is a massive financial success on its own if it did *nothing* else but spawn the films based on them.
We don't need to model after Yas Forums.
Dylan Hall
>When I was a kid I picked up Spider-Man in the middle of an arc. I have no fucking clue what was going on, but Spidey was fighting Shocker and I thought they both looked awesome, so I read, and pretty soon I knew everything I needed to know
Same. Also why emulate manga when it already exists? Yas Forums will still come here and bitch about how much better the Japs are.
Liam Sullivan
You say that but comic books stores are four leaf clovers to a field of grass. There only 2 in a city of 1 million people vs the 5 chain bookstores and the 2 weeb shops. Add another 2 million in the metro area and add 3 more bookstore with mangos with one shelf of trades. Fair number of gns of cape shit. While it two racks of manga.
Jack Collins
What’s the point of these threads?
Tyler Taylor
Viz has bigger bookscan market share than both DC and Marvel. Considering collected editions are very clearly how this medium will survive going forward, this is significant. The best superhero collections year to year are old, evergreen titles like Watchmen or Infinitt Gauntlet- not new titles.
Samuel Reed
Bullfuckingshit
Try reading any of legion volumes 3 or 4 from their starting points with zero context. It's confusing as fuck
Jason Cruz
best selling*
Connor Perry
Legion is inherently a confusing mess and that’s why it only has a couple dozen fans, half of which worked on the book
James Cooper
To spark discussion as with any other thread (except coom ones)
Blake Phillips
People who whine about western comics being too hard to get into are just lazy fucks who don’t want to spend the time figuring out what they want to read.
Carter Hall
Okay, oomer.
Adrian Reyes
It’s just the same discussion every single time- and it’s Yas Forums. East vs West should be a banned topic. Do they have these over on Yas Forums? I bet they don’t. Armchair business nerds are laughable.
Jonathan Fisher
OP gets it
Easton Murphy
This. Yesterday’s OP found Hellboy too complicated .
Matthew Nelson
>Hoo man I sure do like Hero Aca! >Me too!
>Hoo man I sure do like Batman! >Which one? >What do you mean by that? >[Hours of differenciating continuities and reboots]
Easton Jones
>>[Hours of differenciating continuities and reboots You mean hours of conversation? Yeah, that’s awful.
Josiah Smith
> Manga is more popular is because it's easier to follow and adaptations actually help promote the works
not only this, but its just a better value for the content. color glossy pages are nice but not nessiary.
I'd love to buy more comics but single issues feel cheap and flimsy and cant be put on a shelf nicely and trade paperbacks are $20-30 a pop. For the price of one TPB I can get 2 or 3 vol of the latest shonen jump release.
Jonathan Price
I think its also the excessive reboots and shit.
if I want to get into naruto or whatever, its usually as easy as just picking up vol 1 and starting from there, but with comics there are so many different series from different reboots featuring the same characters along different timelines or continuities none with very clear starting points makes it hard for some one who's new to know where exactly they should start.
Joseph Brown
Assuming you’re serious: Online buying brings the price into an acceptable range. You also get exactly what you want as opposed to what the shop happens to have in stock.
Evan Campbell
No, that’s just an excuse. If you’re starting out, all that is meaningless. You’re confuses regardless. It’s just like watching Bond movies. You start from somewhere and just keep going from there and fill in the blanks as you go. Does nobody today even appreciate the joy of discovering old storylines and issues that were referenced that finally fills you in on something?
