Does Marvel's Ultimate line hold up?

Does Marvel's Ultimate line hold up?

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It doesn’t, Ultimate universe was cancer

It has its ups and downs. It's interesting and has some amazing runs but a lot of the time it plays it too safe and copies 616 and other times it tries to be too different and fails to understand the appeal of the original character.

Or it tried to split off too far to be lol we're edgy i.e. Cable-verine

It was an R&D project for the movies to see how far you could break away from 616 and still have the characters work. In the end, it was mostly aesthetic surface-level stuff. (Thank God, everybody thought in 2009 we were going to get mental patient Thor for sure.)

The sweet spot was when it was just "this character but an asshole."

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haha yeah exactly. That was why the only run I liked was early USM. It was just a mild alt-universe take where "what if Peter Parker was the only non-dickhead superhero" (mostly bc the rest were being written by Millar).

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> The Ultimates
Very Good (only reason it's not great is because of what they did with hank)

> The Ultimates 2
Great

> Ultimate War
Decent

> Ultimate Six
Good

> Ultimates 3
Ok / Meh to Weak

> Ultimatum
Weak to Poor to Bad-ish

> Ultimate Avengers
Good

> Ultimate Avengers 2
Good

> Ultimate Avengers 3
Weak (especially the art)

> New Ultimates
Good

> Ultimate Avengers vs New Ultimates
Good (reason it's not very good is because the end with everyone turning into a hulk was dumb)

> The Death of Spider-Man
Very Good

> Ultimate Fallout
Good

> Hickman's Ultimates
Great to Strongly Great (only reason it's not amazing is because the very very end was weak)

> Ultimate Hawkeye mini
Very Good to Great

> Ultimate Thor mini
Good

> Ultimate Captain America mini
Good to Very Good

> The Ultimates 2 annual with Cap and Falcon hanging out
Very Good

> The annual with Black Panther's origin in this universe and Cap being nice to him.
Very Good

> Ultimate Power
Ok / Meh

> The annual with Zarda & Hulk
Good

> Ultimate Nightmare
Good

> Ultimate Secret
Good

> Ultimate Extinction
Weak to Poor

> All 3 of the Ultimate Doomsday trilogy
Very Good

>fpbp
>dubs of truth
Fuck, that’s it boys, time to wrap this thread up, we’re done here

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>"this character but an asshole."
That was the whole ultimate universe. The only one that was kind of ok but still a prick was Thor

>(only reason it's not great is because of what they did with hank)
>and Jan
>and Bruce
>and Cap
>and Tony

>noooo I hate this alternative timeline that has no effect on the 616 universe cause muh heroes are assholes!!!! comics are always supposed to be funnyy and wholesomeee

ok. Ultimate Marvel is still shit. So whats your point

>only critic is muh heroes are assholes
>it's shit
filtered by based ultimate universe, also they are not assholes they're chads

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ok millar youre a great writer I swear

>never said it was my only critique
The only Chad was Thor and MAYBE Cap but he was ruined.

>I need my comic book characters to be edgy and curse and drink and be fucking eachother all the time and overall assholes because I’m a manchild that needs to see Captain America be a cunt and have IM be NU-Stark

ultimates is one of the few good things he wrote, it's a masterpiece tho

but this is why your opinion is retarded, they're never edgy and they're definitely never "assholes" but one (1) time when this happens retards like you sperg out, the fact that it was almost 20 years ago really tells how much you're still butthurt

No. It comes off as very tryhard and cringy these days. Now Marvel Adventures Avengers holds up and is still one of my favorite Marvel books.

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>they're definitely never "assholes"

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Man, the Giant-Man costume sucks

I'm still not seeing a valid critique on why it's shit but ok, not saying that everything ultimate it's good but you can say ultimates 1 2 and it's characters are bad

*can't

>I'm still not seeing a valid critique on why it's shit but ok,
I'm making fun of you for saying that no one was an asshole when that was the entire fucking lineup of Ultimate.
>not saying that everything ultimate it's good but you can say ultimates 1 2 and it's characters are bad
You need to learn English or how to proofread, maybe both.