>."NOOOOO HARLEY QUINN CAN'T BE HER OWN CHARACTER SHE CAN'T GET TIRED OF BEING BEATEN Y HER BOYFRIEND AND SHE CAN'T HAVE HER OWN STORIES I WOULD RATHER SEE HER DYING THAN GOING THROUGH CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AAAAAHHHH!"
Are the sexist villains in "Harley Quinn" a meta-commentary on the right-wing incels that infiltrated comic fandom and see nearly all female characters as an attack on their masculinity? They sure sound the same.
>Are the sexist villains in "Harley Quinn" a meta-commentary on the right-wing incels can you point them out?
Blake Gray
Because why her? She has an irredeemably high kill count than most villains and willingly wants to get creampied by Joker and other villains, why does she get a pass?
While my man here gets severe brain damage and always gets locked up in a maximum security prison with a faded memory of his past life.
Because it's the main point of interest! She was a psych doctor that went nuts. A reflection of the goddamn Joker! That is way more interesting than pixie-girl abuse victim. Way, way more interesting.
Personally, I never liked the abuse angle either. It was way more fun to see the 2-way love between psycos rather than this domestic abuse shit we keep getting over and over lately.
I don't get why this show made it look like it was her choice to become Harley Quinn and choose her name.
Ian Howard
Or maybe you're just strawmanning people (like you usually do) who don't like the current main incarnations of Harley because in your head, "she only became her own character and got tired of his abuse" in the current comics/cartoons. Also, nice "right-wing incel" drop. Because you just had to.
John Watson
>She has an irredeemably high kill count than most villains No she doesn't, Black Adam Killed an entire nation and Chesire nuked another.
Kayden Russell
Because it was. She broke the Joker out and she chose the name and costume in Mad Love.
Michael Barnes
It’s not fucking hard to get Harley Quinn out of Harleen Quinzel. It’s Voldemort time at best
Ryder Johnson
>She was a psych doctor that went nuts. She's still that tho.
Mason Campbell
>Are the sexist villains in "Harley Quinn" a meta-commentary on the right-wing incels that infiltrated comic fandom and see nearly all female characters as an attack on their masculinity? Yes, but it's done so poorly that it drags down the whole show and it uses "men bad" as a crutch to avoid needing good writing.
Colton Perry
The point is that she's not a self-made villain. She's not even a villain these days, but anyway.
Xavier Green
Yeah, but now she isn't submissive to a bigger, male villain anymore, so oh it offends my masculinity so much!
Even the incels know how pathetic they are for holding this opinion, and that's they lie bout Harley being a bigger monster than other male villains that get redeemed.
"Dr. Doom becoming a hero is good writing, since he has never done anything bad, but Harley Quinn? She is a MONSTER! This is bad writing!"
Michael Hernandez
starting a thread with an air-quote is textbook strawman fallacy.
Evan Rivera
Why not just have Harley be her own character that doesn't need to leech off another characters past success. Why does Harley have to be in a relationship
Joseph Nelson
Oh, no. It's Tommy. Go fuck Doom or some shit, jesus.
Parker Perez
Harley is still submissive to the Joker, Tommy. Also, no one cares about your weird Doom fixation.
Logan Turner
>Harley is still submissive to the Joker, Tommy. When was the last time Harley worked for him? 2012, prequel to "Death in the Family"?
You know, I think it's time you take a look at yourself. Time for some self-reflection. Why Dr. Doom being treated like a hero amuses you so much, while Harley Quinn getting a slice of sympathy bothers you to no end?
Could this knee-jerk reaction be connected to your right-wing inclinations?
Grayson White
She sure still flicks her bean to the Joker. And I don't even read Marvel so I never know what the fuck are you talking about all the time, Tommy. Work on your Doom fixation once and for all.
Dylan Hall
Adaptations can have different interpretations, DCAU didn’t have Gaggy
Justin Johnson
I pointed that out because she isn't crazy anymore and though I didn't emphasize it, the reflection of the Joker is the important part.
And no, you cat-lady, not because domestic abuse but because the Joker is interesting. Another take on a Joker like character is interesting. But current Harley is just another manic-pixie girl, who shares way more similarities with Deadpool, and that is fucking lame
God damn it, as soon as i saw the post, i KNEW it was Tommy. I JUST KNEW. Answer my questions this time. is she your waifu? Are you salty that most of Yas Forums's userbase isn't a fan of the psychotic pixie dream girl that is Rebirth Harley? Have you read any main Harley comics before the New 52? Are you aware that not everyone bothers reading Marvel comics as much as they do DC? Do you get tired of pulling strawmans out of your ass constantly? Are you secretly gay for Doom?
Xavier Harris
>Why not just have Harley be her own character that doesn't need to leech off another characters past success. They do that for the comics.
Thomas Long
>be her own character She's a sidekick. She is defined by Joker, just like the Robins are defined by Batman. A Robin that doesn't take cues from Batman is just a martial artist. >..need to be in a relationship She doesn't
Angel Sullivan
faggot
Dominic Price
>she isn't crazy anymore Yeah she is.
Christian Hill
What in the world go robins have to do with bats?
Colton Howard
Are you saying Dick Grayson or Jason Todd isn't their own character?
Luke Morgan
People hated OP because he told them the truth.
Connor Wood
>the reflection of the Joker is the important part. Is it tho?