."NOOOOO HARLEY QUINN CAN'T BE HER OWN CHARACTER SHE CAN'T GET TIRED OF BEING BEATEN Y HER BOYFRIEND AND SHE CAN'T HAVE...

>."NOOOOO HARLEY QUINN CAN'T BE HER OWN CHARACTER SHE CAN'T GET TIRED OF BEING BEATEN Y HER BOYFRIEND AND SHE CAN'T HAVE HER OWN STORIES I WOULD RATHER SEE HER DYING THAN GOING THROUGH CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AAAAAHHHH!"

Are the sexist villains in "Harley Quinn" a meta-commentary on the right-wing incels that infiltrated comic fandom and see nearly all female characters as an attack on their masculinity? They sure sound the same.

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More naked green bitch please.

ha ha joker go bang

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>Are the sexist villains in "Harley Quinn" a meta-commentary on the right-wing incels
can you point them out?

Because why her?
She has an irredeemably high kill count than most villains and willingly wants to get creampied by Joker and other villains, why does she get a pass?

While my man here gets severe brain damage and always gets locked up in a maximum security prison with a faded memory of his past life.

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>She has an irredeemably high kill count
What?

Marvel heroes have a much higher body count than Harley Quinn. And then there's their villains.

Why is Harley singled-out as an irredeemable monster? Sexism?

COPE

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looking good ivy

Because it's the main point of interest! She was a psych doctor that went nuts. A reflection of the goddamn Joker! That is way more interesting than pixie-girl abuse victim. Way, way more interesting.

Personally, I never liked the abuse angle either. It was way more fun to see the 2-way love between psycos rather than this domestic abuse shit we keep getting over and over lately.

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I don't get why this show made it look like it was her choice to become Harley Quinn and choose her name.

Or maybe you're just strawmanning people (like you usually do) who don't like the current main incarnations of Harley because in your head, "she only became her own character and got tired of his abuse" in the current comics/cartoons.
Also, nice "right-wing incel" drop. Because you just had to.

>She has an irredeemably high kill count than most villains
No she doesn't, Black Adam Killed an entire nation and Chesire nuked another.

Because it was. She broke the Joker out and she chose the name and costume in Mad Love.

It’s not fucking hard to get Harley Quinn out of Harleen Quinzel. It’s Voldemort time at best

>She was a psych doctor that went nuts.
She's still that tho.

>Are the sexist villains in "Harley Quinn" a meta-commentary on the right-wing incels that infiltrated comic fandom and see nearly all female characters as an attack on their masculinity?
Yes, but it's done so poorly that it drags down the whole show and it uses "men bad" as a crutch to avoid needing good writing.

The point is that she's not a self-made villain. She's not even a villain these days, but anyway.

Yeah, but now she isn't submissive to a bigger, male villain anymore, so oh it offends my masculinity so much!

Even the incels know how pathetic they are for holding this opinion, and that's they lie bout Harley being a bigger monster than other male villains that get redeemed.

"Dr. Doom becoming a hero is good writing, since he has never done anything bad, but Harley Quinn? She is a MONSTER! This is bad writing!"

starting a thread with an air-quote is textbook strawman fallacy.

Why not just have Harley be her own character that doesn't need to leech off another characters past success.
Why does Harley have to be in a relationship

Oh, no. It's Tommy. Go fuck Doom or some shit, jesus.

Harley is still submissive to the Joker, Tommy. Also, no one cares about your weird Doom fixation.

>Harley is still submissive to the Joker, Tommy.
When was the last time Harley worked for him? 2012, prequel to "Death in the Family"?

You know, I think it's time you take a look at yourself. Time for some self-reflection. Why Dr. Doom being treated like a hero amuses you so much, while Harley Quinn getting a slice of sympathy bothers you to no end?

Could this knee-jerk reaction be connected to your right-wing inclinations?

She sure still flicks her bean to the Joker. And I don't even read Marvel so I never know what the fuck are you talking about all the time, Tommy. Work on your Doom fixation once and for all.

Adaptations can have different interpretations, DCAU didn’t have Gaggy

I pointed that out because she isn't crazy anymore and though I didn't emphasize it, the reflection of the Joker is the important part.

And no, you cat-lady, not because domestic abuse but because the Joker is interesting. Another take on a Joker like character is interesting. But current Harley is just another manic-pixie girl, who shares way more similarities with Deadpool, and that is fucking lame

>right-wing incels that infiltrated comic fandom.

Now that is some classic projection.

Harley Loves Joker was so wholesome.

well if you really want it that bad user

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God damn it, as soon as i saw the post, i KNEW it was Tommy.
I JUST KNEW.
Answer my questions this time.
is she your waifu?
Are you salty that most of Yas Forums's userbase isn't a fan of the psychotic pixie dream girl that is Rebirth Harley?
Have you read any main Harley comics before the New 52?
Are you aware that not everyone bothers reading Marvel comics as much as they do DC?
Do you get tired of pulling strawmans out of your ass constantly?
Are you secretly gay for Doom?

>Why not just have Harley be her own character that doesn't need to leech off another characters past success.
They do that for the comics.

>be her own character
She's a sidekick. She is defined by Joker, just like the Robins are defined by Batman. A Robin that doesn't take cues from Batman is just a martial artist.
>..need to be in a relationship
She doesn't

faggot

>she isn't crazy anymore
Yeah she is.

What in the world go robins have to do with bats?

Are you saying Dick Grayson or Jason Todd isn't their own character?

People hated OP because he told them the truth.

>the reflection of the Joker is the important part.
Is it tho?

Not the same user, but who's Tommy?