Was it based?
beating her?
I mean, self-inserting and making yourself marry your waifu (who's way younger than you) before the internet could rip your ass open was pretty clever but really fucked up.
These days? Lord, if you even try to pretend a fictional character loves you it's the gulag for you.
look it's fine in fan fiction there's nothing wrong with that, but no one wants to pay to read your waifu slober all over your dick
Violently and spectacularly killing Terry is one of the only truly good things Byrne ever did.
Pretty sure a lot of fanfic writers get shat on as well, not that you're wrong but I think no one wants to read self-insert wish fulfillment fantasies regardless of the cost.
what I mean is that's expected in fanfiction, in real comics not so much
>These days? Lord, if you even try to pretend a fictional character loves you it's the gulag for you.
We now have at least two recent cases in cartoons where grown men have inserted themselves as the love interest of little children or gay dogs. And it was met with nothing but praise from their peers.
Which is why it's good for writers like Claremont (the creepy fetishistic fucktard) that they did that shit before social media was able to out and shame them.
Of course, they're still alive these days so there's no harm in visiting Claremont's twitter and telling them they should be castrated and locked up.
You can be based, but you'll never be "Marry the real Zatanna" based like Paul Dini.
Yas Forums should step up their game and raid those fuckers online then.
So we're all in agreement that Dini cut a deal with Grant Morrison to make this happen, right? Morrison is the only wizard in comics I can think of powerful enough to bring a waifu to life. Well, him or Moore.
He can't keep getting away with it!!
Never forget
I don't think people shitting on him even read Wolfman's New TT. He was pretty chilly guy that was always supporting Donna. Until Wolfman was out ideas and started injecting drama in their relationship after 10 years of marriage.
When I read it I didn't find anything weird about it. Sure he didn't deserve Donna because she was so pure that any other character felt like a slut around her. But he wasn't that bad
Oh shit!
If I ask nicely... would he let me have Supergirl?
If Fullmetal Alchemist has taught me anything, it's the law of equivalent exchange. So if you want Grant to work his powers to conjure Kara for you, you'll have to give up something to him in return.
The fuck does Grant Morrison even want or need? Asshole's chilling in his Scottish castle these days.
I'm shitting on him for self-inserting in an official comic book that people paid money for for over 10 years. The quality of the writing is irrelevant
Isn't he a Anarchist? Why does he live in a Castle
The quality of the writing is essential in this case because that's precisely why NTT was so popular back then, making Wolfman a superstar and giving him so much power.
That said, what about less obvious self inserts, like when Mister Miracle was in a great relationship with a woman based on their creator's wife, or Ditko's mary sue Mr A?
Why don't you?
The dude who wrote that pregnant Spider-Woman miniseries did exactly the same thing and nobody outside of Yas Forums called him on it.
>Marv Wolfman on Donna/Terry break-up: "The break up happened in Team Titans after I left it. I disagreed with it and said so, but the writer did it anyway. It was wrong in my mind to do it--Donna and Terry would not suddenly split up that way. They may have split up if we saw a real problem between them but I just had them occasionally have Donna's power come between them--something they would have gotten through. Once the divorce was done though, and I got the character back, I could not simply undo what was done. Hence my following up on it etc. It was an editorial decision that led Donna to Kyle...which I also don't feel was right, but had no real reason to argue. IF Donna split with Terry and Dick was splitting with Kory, I would have very slowly had Dick and Donna get together...which I did suggest in an overview memo."
I thought it was a terrible idea.but I always felt that Deathstroke was another self insert for Wolfman.
Wolfman really went out of his way to pretend that Deathstroke did nothing wrong and justify everything he did.
>Claremont
>Fucktard
Oh, suck on a blowtorch, the guy was a great writer.
That aside, it still continues. Brubaker's WS is the cringiest, sasukeifiic self insert ever.
I think it's because Jess is an adult woman in a relationship with an adult man, when Donna is much younger than Terry and he even was her teacher or some other similar position of power? Say what you want, Yas Forums is a bunch of conservaprudes.
>Wolfman really went out of his way to pretend that Deathstroke did nothing wrong and justify everything he did.
I admit, that was hella weird - Terry at least waited until Donna was the right age, meanwhile Slade fucked a kid younger than his own children and then it was somehow her fault, it's literally that dude from Lolita.
it's still creepy
Claremont was a creepy faggot who only wrote comics to satisfy his sick fantasies, go suck his dick. Maybe he'll turn you into his very own flesh suit to wear as he fucks your mom and transforms her into a tentacle plant that screams and begs for death.
Met him at a con, thought he was the biggest prick I ever met in comics until I had to deal with Steve Orlando.
Self Insert is okay if you are under 10 years old. It's normal for children to imagine themselves in fictions they like.
It's weird for older children.
It's creepy for "adults" to do so
Reminder that Donna Troy is a soulless clone
Dark Phoenix and Days of Future Past solidify Claremont's status as one of the greats.
Also, nobody fucking reads Spider-Woman.
I thought that relationship with Porcupine out of nowhere was weird... and now that I see what the writer looks like, I can see why it felt that way. Fucking creepy.