>Iron Man kills people
>Thor kills people
>Wolverine kills people
>Hulk razes cities in anger
>Magneto is an on and off terrorist
>"this is ok, it's cape comics"
>Punisher does away with a few unrepentant scumbags
"NOOOOOOOOO! NOT THE HECKIN' CROOKERINOS! EDGY! 90s SHIT! FASCISM!"
Who are you quoting?
>iron man kills as a last resort
>thor kills gods and monsters in other realms
>wolverine kills for other people and most of the time it catches up with him
>hulk was banished to other realms by strange and shot into space
>punisher seeks out and kills criminals regardless of the circumstances, killing hundreds and causing all sorts of damage and answering to no one
Frank Castle gets so much shit because almost anyone can do what he can. His presence breeds civil unrest and street justice, the idea that anyone can pick up a gun if they think the system doesn't work.
Did the Punisher ever wear a bandana outside of the '90s Spiderman cartoon? He should, bandanas are the coolest.
In all of the MCU movies the context is that it's in a place where it's either kill them or let the human race get conquered by aliens, or get killed by the bad guy.
Of course still doesn't excuse them for giving Superman shit for Zod in man of steel (Batman murdering normal thugs with a chain gun in BVS is another story.)
The word is "paraphrasing"
>movies
Sheesh
It makes him look like Solid Snake here.
Well.
At least it's not a coomer or Newgrounds style thread.
Anyways, you stripped away literally every ounce of context from your claims. See please, OP.
But I do agree the people claiming vigilante figures who use lethal force are fascist are stupid. Fascism is an authoritarian ideology by nature. How is one person acting outside the law to commit crimes in any way related to fascism?
Who are you paraphrasing?
Considering how dangerous the Marvel Universe is, I'm surprised Aunt May doesn't have a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range under her rocking chair. Sure, she was able to outsmart the Chameleon once, but she's going to need more should an alien invasion happen. And she's piloted an Iron Man suit before. All Marvel citizens should be armed, even lightly, in case of a villain attack. Even those squeemish against guns should be able to download Shocker Gauntlet specs from the net and slip a low powered one onto an oven mitt. And you can't tell me there aren't rednecks somewhere remote with a hoard of salvaged alien weapons shooting them off for fun.
Marvel fans on the internet
That part about wolverine is complete BS. wolverine doesn't usually kill and cold blood but he absolutely, unequivocally has murdered his way through literally thousands of foot ninjas and shit at this point in his career, without giving a single fuck.
Soooo basically the only people that dislike free men deciding whats best for themselves and following suit are bootlickers and manchildren?
>without giving a single fuck.
I dunno. I think all the death has taken a toll even on him. I forget which book it was, but he did have a brief panel of lamentation that the only reason he's on so many teams is because they all need a killer at one point or another. And he's the best there is at what he does.
the current writers for The Punisher
The deal with Hulk is that people don't really excuse his killing as much as they recognize that he can be kinda handy to have around sometimes, and that it's not the best idea to piss him off by trying to kill him because chances are it won't work.
fucking conan was more professional than frank.
>gets beat up and tortured by thulsa doom
>has to contain his vengeance and do his job (kidnap the princess) and does so
meanwhile frank kills two c-list/d-list villains who wanted to help them out during civil war.
>free men deciding whats best for themselves
is that what you say to yourself to justify your need for big guns?
Frank isn't a professional, that would imply that he has a job.
Sure, but all the death is taking the toll on Frank as well. And that doesn't mean that either of them whatever hesitate when it comes to killing a motherfucker, nor that Logan has only he ever killed when he had literally no choice.
The point is that there have been plenty of instances in which wolverine has killed people purely because he could.
>Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Hulk canonically didn't kill anyone until Immortal.
I dunno, I don't live in europe so being a free man and not a subject of the crown/your preferred governing body i don't need to justify my ownership of goods.
Bootlickers are just going to cry that nobody should be able to defend themselves period so this isn't as relevant as you want it to be. These people just plainly don't accept personal, individual defense as a valid idea.
Why are you even turning this into a fucking gun rights thing?
Street justice doesn't have jackshit to do with owning guns.
One is sorta linked to the other, but yes we're getting sidetracked.
Ultimately though the same people that dislike personal firearm ownership fall along the same line of people that dislike punisher. Theyre simply not comfortable with the idea of people acting on their own without the illusion of public regulation. so the idea of Frank is just existentially terrifying to that sort of person.
>murdered his way through literally thousands of foot ninjas
They don't count.
>Ultimately though the same people that dislike personal firearm ownership fall along the same line of people that dislike punisher
The people who don't like the idea of legally buying and owning guns have a problem with a vigilante that probably doesn't have a single fucking license to own any of the guns in his armory?
what the fuck are you talking about
Punisher very much stems from the sheer amount of violent drug crimes in 70s and even early 80s new york and unless you know how american gun politics are, I'm not going to bother expounding upon them and why punisher's guns are of the least concern in this.
Just know before the registration and ban that went down in the 80s and 90s thanks to reagan being an incompetent californian the idea of punisher not having "licenses" for his firearms was and still is a ludicrous concern considering i can walk into any machineshop today and within a few hours walk out with a functional machinegun.
so, ultimately, it is a juxtaposition of how americans view themselves and the approach of y'know, vigilantism that used to be the norm but changed to a reliance on underpaid, undertrained police forces due to urban sprawl and how the upper classes react to the lower classes.
No, but I dig the jacket
if we're being frank(pun fully intended), death should be an incredibly rare event in Superhero comics from DC or Marvel
I'm just curious how the police let him get away with this.