FUCK WOLVERINE

As a kid I used to think he was cool, sure. I wasn't a huge fan or anything, but he had a decent hook. But as the years passed and I got to reading the books, I grew to despise this miserable, creepy little vermin. Is anyone still a genuine fan of this faggot? Why? I finally get Ennis; Wolverine straight up sucks. Personally, I'd kill him off permantly and replace him with... any of the countless other stabby-stab-stab X-Characters. Psylocke, Spiral, X-23, fucking Sabretooth or Fantomex, I don't care. Just get rid of him.

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Yeah. Wolverine rules, at least he did before now. Wolverine was the only good character to ever come out of X-Men, and Nightcrawler was okay, but would have been better with a supernatural origin. Other than that, X-Men suck but Wolverine was a saving grace.

>Is anyone still a genuine fan of this faggot?
JEAAAANNNNN still wants his D for some reason

>the countless other stabby-stab-stab X-Characters

I think you've hit the core problem with Wolverine which is that his original uniqueness has been shit all over at the expense of other characters

Psylocke wasn't a stabby-stab until X-Force, not really; Spiral was more of a magic user, X-23 is literally not a clone clones do not work that way, Sabertooth was supposed to be Mirror Wolverine, Fantomex... I mean did anybody seriously ever give a shit about Fantomex, the guy who has a magic space submarine that lives inside his head and is his secret girlfriend? REALLY? it's a joke character

But now they're all stabby and so are a whole bunch of others and I blame Kyle and Yost's X-Force creating this niche for X-Men to become Edge-Men who do the stabby-stabby.

It was a good concept book at the time - Wolverine's doubts about the X-Men and the team, his doubts about putting X-23 into a wetwork squad, even running one - but when it came to its natural conclusion all that happened was Wolverine wrassled MonoHitler on the beach and inconclusively won/lost, and the fans just demanded more stabby stab books and shitposted Cyclops Was Right for 18 months, even though pretty much everything the X-Men do with the minors they basically abduct for ideological reasons is illegal and putting a minor on a wetworks squad to pre-emptively murder hundreds of potential enemies of yours isn't actually legal at all or even morally justified simply because the child was created by your enemies to do murders.

Don't get me wrong, X-23 had a story when she debuted and it followed through on X-Force with Wolverine's doubts about basically the whole modus operandi of the X-Men at that point, and it helped both of them grow as characters, but then the stabus quo snapped back and they're stuck that way and it's shit, OP, it's shit. You're right.

So Wolverine sucks because of other characters and that makes sense to you

>JEAAAANNNNN still wants his D for some reason
Less Jean and mostly the cuck writers who self-insert as the manlet who gets all the hawt chicks, bub.
>the rest
Fair points, but even in old comics I found him a boring character. He's just an annoying faggot and nothing more. He was 'edgy' but never as edgy and cool as the Punisher. And as the years went by and he got "character development" he just tuned into "le gruff man with the sad past, a heart of gold and a special place for surrogate daughters" type.
Go home and wank it Logan, nobody cares.

I think Wolverine is interesting because both he and the Joker are over-exposed to the point of comedy but there's this consistent contingent of people who want to get rid of Wolverine and have semi-successfully done so at various points (Replacing him with Old Man Logan, repalcing him with Laura, replacing him with AOA Sabertooth)

but nobody ever tries to get rid of the Joker

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Formidable post. Welcome to the club

Wolverine is kind of a relic that peaked in the 90's and the 2000's is when he started to be wanked too much. Like how in Shadowlands, it was all street level, then he pops in an issue before last.

>Spiral was more of a magic user,
Isn't Spiral a straight up villain?

over time he become a hypocrite douchebag , the same thing happened to Beast

Problem was, at least in my mind, Wolvie had a 3 stage cycle
>Interesting side character with cool moments that Jean wanted to bone
>Bones Jean, becomes unstoppable killing machine, peak good writing
>Overhyped nonsense, gets put on 10+ teams because having wolvie on the cover sells, eventually suffers worf effect and jobs out to every villian in the universe

>Wolverine's place on the streets, not among space levels superheroes
Prove me wrong.

She started as a "good guy" (Ricochet Rita), but yes. She's Val Cooper's most embarrassing mistake.

>>Bones Jean, becomes unstoppable killing machine, peak good writing
When did either of these happen?

He's too overpowered for the streets. He belongs in the trash.

During Snyder's run there was about a year where the Joker was "dead" during the time Gordon was Batman.

His run before his death where he lost his healing was amazing. Everything after, including his death written by Soule and now in Hickman, is garbage.

>His run before his death where he lost his healing was amazing.
I bought it. It was okay, AFAIR. I might be the only person on Earth who really liked that costume. Honestly, if you tone down the healing factor, drop the shitty obsession with Jean, and turn him into a silent commando/samurai again, he'd be good.

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Let us now post pages of Wolverine jobbing

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Remember that time Magneto got sick of his shit?

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Based Kikeneto.
>always will love him
To this day I don’t understand their obsession with making Jean fall for him. Scott is a literal Chad in every sense of the word, yet because writers self-insert as they hairy manlet, we’re stuck with this shit. God, I hate Wolverine...

>that Will E. Coyote wire trap shit
>that Sabretooth monologue
>that jetpack
always kek on this one, have no idea who wrote this, but editorial must have laughed their asses off when reading this

Sabretooth is such a chad, fucking up with the manlet just because he can. I wonder how many hours did he wait behind that tree, and how many hours did he spend preparing the wires/ropes. Absolutely based.

Ew

Don't forget that in that same issue Frank ran him over with a steamroller.

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Spider-Man should've killed him off for good in that one panel where he's beating his head in against a tombstone.

They also made wolverine a gay canadian president that was Hercules' boyfriend in Exiles and had him and Emma Frost smashed together into an effeminate Liberace type in the Warp World storyline.

Wolverine is a great supporting character. He's an excellent foil for other characters to bounce off of, he's great as a mentor, great as a guest star, etc.

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the character either. Overexposure will hurt any brand.

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I feel the exact same way about Batman. Albeit for entirely different reasons.

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ON THE OTHER HAND, Punisher if fucking gay and you can tell a person is a terrible human being if he's one of their favorites.

>Fantomex... I mean did anybody seriously ever give a shit about Fantomex, the guy who has a magic space submarine that lives inside his head and is his secret girlfriend? REALLY? it's a joke character
Honestly can't tell if X-Men writers genuinely think Fantomex and Quentin Quire are great characters or if they just want Grant to notice them and take them to prom.