So did Korra's incompetence kill them all forever or just sever their connection to her.
So did Korra's incompetence kill them all forever or just sever their connection to her
>kill them all
They're already dead, user
its a spin-off right?
isn't it canon?
yes Korra destroyed her own history as a weak penance to destroy the world as she knows it. I wonder what that sounds like?
What did she do?
I never watched this, but I saw enough of the original show to think I have a good enough understanding of how things worked, so explain what you’re talking about.
She stopped being the avatar for a bit, meaning the avatar was effectively dead so the past avatars vanish
She then returned to being the avatar, fought another, evil, avatar and went on her merry way
>What did she do?
She played into the hands of her uncle, Unalak, (the chief of the Northern Water Tribe and acting chief of both Tribes since Sokka never sired an heir to be chief of the Southern Water Tribe) where he managed to trick her into releasing the spirit of Chaos, Vaatu, (the counterpart to the spirit of Order, which has been combined with Korra's spirit and all her predecessors, which is why they are the Avatars) whereupon he merged with Vaatu, like the first Avatar did with Raava (the spirit of Order) 10,000 years previously, and became the "Dark Avatar". They then fought and afterward he severed Korra's connection to Raava and permanently severed her connection to ALL her past lives. She recombined with Raava at the end of the season, because neither Raava or Vaatu can be permanently destroyed, and became the Avatar again. But now her successor will only have her to talk to instead of hundreds of lifetimes worth of predecessors.
she kill them all, they can't come back
They are gone forever.
She destroyed thousands of years of history and wisdom and began a new cycle that begins with her. The next avatar will only have Korra to use for wisdom.
It goes without saying that Korra is, by a significant margin, the single worst Avatar in it's entire universe.
It'd be whatever could be twisted into letting the writers go "Korra is absolutely right" despite that making no fucking sense.
First of all Vaatu attacked Raava repeatedly after ripping her out of Korra and that stripped her of her connection to the previous avatars
Second, her connection exists separately from her avatar state powers, so she still has all of that, she just cannot talk to her previous iterations.
Third....can she just go see them all in the spirit world? or are they just buried deep inside of her?
Dear God imagine being the next Earth Kingdom Avatar.
>she just cannot talk to her previous iterations.
>Third....can she just go see them all in the spirit world?
So can she talk to them or can't she? Make up your mind.
Poor kid.
>Avatar Korra I'm struggling to learn the other 3 elements, how did you do it
>Well I was basically born already mastering 3 of them and the 4th activated randomly during a boss battle even though I never showed the slightest indication of learning anything about it, so idk git gud
your entire frame of reference is at best Wan, Aang, and some miscellaneous stories of adventures from any avatars we saw Aang talk to
Each one of them made mistakes because they are as human as everyone else
-Wan fucked up by separating the spirits of good and evil, which caused the imbalance that negatively affected the world for over 10,000 years
-Aang got cold feet and ditched everyone for 100 years in a ball of ice which allowed the fire nation to fuck over everyone across the globe
-Korra experiences some deep personal traumas because a network of several villains viciously attack her for being a bender, for being the avatar, for fighting for peace, and for standing up for personal freedoms. Yeah she suffered and made her own mistakes, but she grew from them by learning better.
She literally stops the final villain by busting a hole through space and telling her to calm the fuck down
Also Aang already damaged the link intentionally after they tried to possess him.
>Avatar Korra please the Air Benders have broken up into a violent civil war between the Neo-Nomads and their modernist rivals, what do I do?
>YOU'RE THE AVATAR, YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT
>Second, her connection exists separately from her avatar state powers
Not entirely.
>so she still has all of that,
She does not. For an Avatar before Korra being severed from Raava, the Avatar state allowed for an Avatar to use all the collective powers, skill and knowledge of all preceding Avatars at once. Korra no longer has that. At best, she has a severely nerfed Avatar state where she only gets a mild buff and can use all four elements at once. But her's is now nothing like what it once was.
>can she just go see them all in the spirit world?
No. The spirit world is not an afterlife, just an alternate plane of existence. Someone like Iroh was able to go there upon his death because he had the spirituality to do that at any point in his lifetime. You could say he just permanently transferred his spirit there to avoid death.
>or are they just buried deep inside of her?
Maybe. But they're no more accessible to her than the past lives of someone else who is reincarnated are accessible to them. You could say that Raava was like a backup drive for their collective consciousnesses. But now they're no longer in that drive because Vaatu deleted them.
>which caused the imbalance that negatively affected the world for over 10,000 years
Accept it didn't. Raava won harmonic convergence. Mankind was able to repopulate the world that belonged to them because Vaatu wasn't able to feed the Spirits' negativity and force Humanity to indefinitely stay on the lion turtles. The fact that the spirits infested the material world was because Vaatu won that previous Harmonic Convergence.
traditionally The previous Avatars can just be directly summoned or even show up on their own to the new Avatar regardless of where they are. The Spiritworld is like an alternate dimension with its own creatures, and also every human that has ever died, which makes me assume the previous avatars should also be there, but how does that world when we are talking about reincarnation? Are they not in the spirit world at all? are they all just chilling inside one persons body and they migrate when the latest one dies and a new one is born? are all the avatars just one single soul with multiple personality disorder? HOW DOES THIS WORK?
>The next avatar will only have Korra to use for wisdom
This shit is repeated every thread even though Korra only relied on Aang, and Aang only relied on Roku aside from literally one episode where other Avatars got about 15 seconds each. It's not new or unusual for an Avatar to only have their predecessor for guidance.
Yeah but most people bring it up because Korra is a complete fuck up for the most part.
Aang and Roku were fuck up in their own ways but still had alright advice.
Yeah you mean like Aang for all the others?
>kill Ozai because I couldn't
>kill Ozai because it's right
>kill Ozai because I'm lazy
>kill Ozai despite yourself
>Aang then doesn't kill Ozai
Wow the past Avatars are such a great wealth of wisdom, they're so helpful.
you just gave the long version of my short version
Vaatu remained marginally buffed, and Raava was very nerfed after the whole situation. Then Wan had all the spirits return to the spirit world. Then all the different nations of man who were no longer living on the lion turtles just started doing shit like starting wars.
imagine of wan just never intervened? the balance would remain and we would be living on isolated turtles
They didn't. Aang ignored every piece of Roku's advice aside for the knowledge of Sozin's comet.
>Aang if you leave this guru you'll never be able to Avatar state again (not only was this one ignored, he was also wrong)
>Aang you have to kill Ozai for me
>Aang listen man you gotta figure out this spirit shit on your own
The next Avatar will be fine.
>HOW DOES THIS WORK?
Have you ever seen the old flash game Escape From the Spirit World? It was a fill in between Atla s2 and 3 and had Aang meet his past four lives in the spirit world while he was in a coma. It's where Kyoshi establishing the Dai Li and Kuruk's full backstory was revealed. They all existed in various places in the Spirit World as spirits.
Well, they were right though. Aang should've killed him. He's the Avatar, not an Air Nomad no matter how much he would otherwise prefer to be. Aang was selfish and further placed the world in potential danger by allowing him to live because he refused to defy the teachings of the Air Nomads, despite that he is obligated to be above them.
No other avatar managed to fuck up the connection of all previous avatars so yes, Korra is the most royal fuck up of them all no matter how bad previous incarnations of the Avatar mat have been
Irrelevant. The point was that they weren't helpful and Aang did not need them. Your opinion on who's right between them has no bearing, and neither does mine. The point is that he didn't need them.
>imagine of wan just never intervened? the balance would remain and we would be living on isolated turtles
But it wasn't balanced. Spirits don't belong in the physical world. By intervening, Wan restored balance by having the Spirits go back to their own world and mankind was able to live freely in their world.
The good and evil carpets are the dumbest shit ever established in Avatar lore. They are clearly a play on the taijitu like Tui and La, but instead of being complementary and flowing they're just antagonistic. There is not a single good reason for not having Raava be the dominant of the two and curb stomp Vaatu the moment it dares to move.
The other Avatars were completely right though, Ozai needed to die. Roku especially fell into the same trap Aang did, he was unwilling to kill Sozin and the whole world paid the price.
>The point was that they weren't helpful
Bullshit. Their advice was the right advice, they couldn't have foreseen Aang gaining asspull magic depowering abilities
>he didn't need them
Again, bullshit. Roku and Kyoshi were both useful to Aang throughout the show.