Why did Treasure Planet fail?

Why did Treasure Planet fail?

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-adverting campaign
-being at the end of golden age of 2d animation
-interesting 3d on horizon
-no movie gimmic like 3d
-extreme oversaturation of genre everybody decided to make a space ship movie at that point in time

>You know what Treasure Planet was released against? The first Harry Potter
Thats why

Killing the best boy off

2D animated theatrical movie is dying

Inconsistent aesthetics. You've got spaceships and interstellar colonies, but they all look like wooden boats, Dickensian fishing villages, and everyone's walking around in period clothing. You've got a classic orchestral score but also angsty pop music floating around. You've got classy Disney renaissance style 2D art mixed with dated CG.

It makes the whole thing look like an indecisive mess... which, frankly, it was. That tends to put off audiences.

I dont think most people think of that

the fuck were they thinking?

>"We're Disney, motherfuckers. Who the hell is this 'Harry Potter' anyways?"

>They sent Treasure Planet out to die
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Its a very good video about why it failed

was a bit too young to remember properly, but surely the HP movies were pretty damn popular even before the movies?

Not this shit again......

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As far as I remember, they only allowed to make it as a favour to the two directors. Disney never cared for the movie and barely advertized it.

Film aimed primarily at young boys, which Disney would learn doesn’t bring the best financial gains compared to animated movies with more general audience appeal (they did this during the renaissance, so I guess they had to “re” learn this?)
Obviously audiences started associating CG animation with the cutting age, as well as the more contemporary humor and storytelling of Pixar/DreamWorks.
This movie was super expensive and had to be a blockbuster to break even.

Critics at the time were lukewarm even though it managed garner one of the five Oscar noms. For me, and others in my age group who saw this I’m theatres, I was captivated by the cool look and memorable characters in a true adventure movie. I have fond memories of seeing this, and I think now it’s warmly looked back on as a cult Disney film (as opposed to Emperor’s New Groove, which is amazing, but has clearly grown in popularity since its original “cult” status).

Disney was pretty fucking cocky in the years after the Renaissance peaked.

>You've got spaceships and interstellar colonies, but they all look like wooden boats
>That tends to put off audiences.
I get that YOU don't like anacronism in media, but don't foist that hangup on other people.

If what you said held any water then Steampunk wouldn't be as popular as it is and regardless of how popular YOU think it is or should be it still IS popular.

>If what you said held any water then Steampunk wouldn't be as popular as it is and regardless of how popular YOU think it is or should be it still IS popular
Popularity is relative - Steampunk is popular niche aesthetic, true, but a niche nevertheless.

A large niche. You're clearly trying to downplay it's popularity because you have this crazy idea that people have a reflexive reaction to anachronism.

You need to understand that this problem is not as prevalent as you want to pretend it is.

for real though, did they intentionally try make this a flop?

was there some 30000 IQ play in the works where they secretly took out some sort of film insurance

see and part of

Anachronism is not an all or nothing deal - it can be done well and it can be done poorly.

Atlantis: The Lost Empire had steampunk aesthetics as well, but giant Nautilus-like submarines in a WW1-era setting and big wooden looking sailing ships in open space piloted by aliens in Victorian naval uniforms are not the same fucking thing.

A:TLE came out just a year before TP but made more than double the domestic box office gross. It clearly was doing something right that TP wasn't.

Not that guy.

Steampunk is very niche by mainstream standards. It's sizeable by genre standards, but it has substantially less content than say, furry stuff. The magic bullet to making Steampunk palatable to the masses hasn't been discovered.

>for real though, did they intentionally try make this a flop?
No, that's just what the movie's die hard fans have convinced themselves. It couldn't possibly be that audiences just had a lackluster response to their favorite movie of all time, no, it had to be a giant corporate conspiracy to MAKE it fail so that people would think it's not the greatest movie of all time

>but giant Nautilus-like submarines in a WW1-era setting and big wooden looking sailing ships in open space piloted by aliens in Victorian naval uniforms are not the same fucking thing
No shert, Shitlock, but that still doesn't convey any meaningful information other than "I DIDN'T LIKE IT."

So you're really just saying "Treasure Planet didn't do well because I didn't like it" and I can't believe anyone could be so narcissistic.

no more porn of her

I'm not saying I didn't like it - I actually enjoy TP for the most part... but I'd have to be ridiculously biased in its favor to not point out that
a) aesthetically it's a hot fucking mess and
b) potential audiences pick up on that shit

>Inconsistent aesthetics
Inconsistent with what?
The generic Sci-Fi setting you have ingrained in your head?

It came out the same month as The Two Towers, Chamber of Secrets, and Attack of the clones.

>lol generic sci-fi fags don't appreciate my steamspacepunk kino
No matter how many ways you slice it, most mainstream audiences are going to take a look at the image of an open deck sailing ship flying through the vacuum of space and say 'well that just looks goofy'.

They could have gone with any number of feasible-but-visually-pleasing aesthetic designs for their ships and outfits from the retro 50s to the cyberpunk 80s to contemporary sci-fi. Instead they went with 'just stick a galleon in space'

If you think about it, all they did was take the concept of "space as an ocean" to its logical conclusion, i.e. the Age of Sail but in Space. I personally enjoy it; it's not something you see often and it's one of the reasons Treasure Planet is one of my favourite films. Shame it never got a sequel.

Literally just your opinion dumb nigger retard.

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>sequel to an adaptation of a novel with no sequels
Yeah while we're at it how come there's been no "Moby Dick 2: Ishmael's Revenge"?

Stop being a cunt. They had plans for a sequel, it just never got off the ground.

looks like an anal toy

I'll make you into an anal toy, faggot

The Treasure Planet head bingo:
>Treasuer Planet
>Atlantis: TLE
>Titan A.E.
>?

kek

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nice comeback, i'm sure you're very proud of yourself, gold star for you