ITT conservative characters that aren't treated evil for not being liberal

ITT conservative characters that aren't treated evil for not being liberal

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Hawkman

Black Panther

Lois Lane

Hal... at least he was, not sure these days.

The Question

Notice how these are all from DC? Why is that?

Aquaman is arguably a Monarchist, so i'm posting him

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Isn't Iron Man a Conservative?

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Hal was more moderate than anything. He was definitely in between Barry and Ollie even though leaning more towards Barry.

Because people keep on forgetting USAgent. Though I will say Marvel tends to be a bit more monistic on the subject of Liberal/Conservatism.

>Its an episode where OP has a persecution complex.

This is how I understand it
Superman. Family values conservative
Batman. Corporate Liberal
Green Arrow. Socialist
Barry/Wally Conservative libertarian
Wonder Woman (New 52 onward) authoritarian left
Hal. Moderate conservative

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But conservatives are evil.

Pre-change of heart tony was an anarchist capitalist. Iron Man is a corporatist neo-conservative (which is basically a socialist but for big businesses rather than people.)

>TFW I used to think this in middle school too

Yeah but he got the conservative label since he was pretty much demonized in those GA/GL books.

>Yeah you've saved the universe a thousand times over... but what have you done for ME, huh? Answer me THAT, huh, Mr. Green. Lan-TENR??

God, so retarded. And yet very realistic. That old man would've asked Superman for a fiddy after being just saved by Supes.

Depending on what Supes we're talking about I'd say he's progressive as well. Supes wouldn't vote against gay marriage and the early Golden Age one would've been in favor of the New Deal. The version drawn by Curt Swan would definitely be conservative though.

>Unsolicited opinions on Israel, it's about integrity in hammer throwin'

NO ONE IS ATTACKING YOU I SWEAR

The worst thing is, if that criticism had been lobbied at Batman it would be somewhat legitimate, even if Bruce Wayne donates his money to charities there's no way the public would put two and two together. Hal saves the entire planet on a routine basis.

I didn't phrase this well exactly - I mean coming from a citizen in-universe it would be somewhat legitimate.

>tfw when the shit conservatives do continue to prove you right

Yeah, Hal has an entire space sector to worry about. That criticism might be valid coming from whatever other sentients inhabit our sector, but no one on Earth can complain to him about anything, he's always around unless the blue men order otherwise.

Thinking about it, if GL's were real, there'd be an uproar because Earth GL's all from the U.S. You know Russia and China would bitch.

This. How dare they not agree with me and my middle school ideas of how the world should work

lol, no not really, a big part of his character is about being a liberal trying to make his country change

Feel free to sacrifice your life to appease the economy if your leader demands it.

supes was literally made to be socialist propoganda

>Confusing conservatives with the Sith Cult currently in charge of the GOP right now
>implying republicans = conservative
You know it says something when even both Bushes alive are distancing themselves from the current administrator. The Deep Right really fucked republicans over.

>hurr durr let me cherrypick what a single politician thinks and apply this to everyone
Thanks for proving my point. I guess all liberals are reptilian inter-dimensional pedophiles like Hillary then.

I've got a free helicopter ride for you bud.

Not an argument. Conservatives by definition are against change, their movements want to "conserve" those values that already exist. The only problem with that is being against change means opposing negative change but also positive action. And the only way you can justify that is to assume the stance that positive change is impossible, which is an argument in favor of the current system and defending any failure of the current system (no matter which system that is) as being inherently good by it's contrast to the inevitable bad of any other system. One can make the argument that any ideology that doesn't advocate the search for a more perfect solution to any and all problems is a moral evil by it's inaction permitting morally evil action.

And DC made sure to change that.

Fucking how

Conservatives are only conservative against liberal ideas that they see as wrong. They are not against all change, just the ones the democratic party wants. Trump was the biggest change the fucking US presidency saw in decades.

>supes was literally made to be socialist propoganda
>a guy wearing a costume based on the american flag, beating the shit out of commies and shouting about how great the american way is
>socialist propaganda

Until 80s DC was conservative company. They made their first black superhero 10 years later than Marvel

>believing partisanship is anything but a sham to divide and confuse the voter base while the oligarchs retain power by misdirecting public perceptions
Washington was right.

Alan Scott, Jay Garrick, Wildcat, Hourman, O.G Atom, Liberty Belle I, Starman, pretty much all of the classic JSA.

he was made by jews or something

Back in the 20's socialism was still viable to some and Stalin, the Red Scare and the Cold War hadn't happened yet

These unwashed faggots think that fighting for the little man automatically means 'Socialist'.

>The Deep Right really fucked republicans over.
What does this even mean?

So what.

>>Confusing conservatives with the Sith Cult currently in charge of the GOP right now
the conservatism of old is dead and buried, you have to move on.

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There is nothing wrong with wanting to conserve values if said values are correct. Freedom of speech, individual freedom and self reliance and a nuclear family are values that republicans think should be conserved.

his arch rival is a business mogul user

Yes and no. Jack Johnson was created about five years before Black Panther and wasn't a stereotype. That being said he wasn't a superhero and as big a deal as either Black Panther or John Stewart. Also not literally a superhero but I think that's beside the point in this discussion. That being said, being black was obviously a big deal for T'Challa's presentation.

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He was beating the shit out of corrupt businessman before he was beating the shit out of commies. That being said this period of Supe's characterization was short and by the time Curt Swan showed up was basically over.

I would argue Diana's been authoritarian left since the beginning, just nicer about it

>both bushes distance themselves
It’s almost like they are Democrats with an R after their name. And unlike dubya, Trumps actually been taking us OUT of the Middle East.

Maybe if conservatives had less overlap with racism, fascism, religious nationalism, anti-intellectualism, and general contempt for human decency they wouldn't be so bad.
>I guess all liberals are reptilian inter-dimensional pedophiles like Hillary then.
Yeah, probably.

There's more it than that even.

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I think you mean 'Mad Scientist'. 'Cause that's exactly what he was, a diabolical genius, not just le evil 1% rich dude. That interpretation is much more modern, and you've already said that Superman was only a """"socialist"""" in his early days.

Next you'll be telling me Superman is Stalin because Luthor hoarded 40 cakes for himself and Superman wanted to share them.

He was Anti-War Profiteering, Pro-Union, Anti-Abuse by Big Businesses, he was big on government intervention to the point where he TORE down an entire neighborhood to force the Government to rebuild it to be less shitty, he was against the "tough on crime" policies to the point where he helped kids get away from the cops while also convincing them to go straight.

If any one of you "Superman is a Conservative!" retards read the first 12 Issues of Action Comics, you'd be screaming about SJWs.

>supes was literally made to be socialist propoganda
No Superman was just supposed to stand against corruption and still does

>Unironically believes what CNN tells them
Sorry to burst your bubble but most people aren't actually racist and not wanting illegal immigration doesn't make someone racist either. Also you have no idea what socialism fucking is.

Meant for

Are you uneducated about fox news and right media conspiracy spooks? Read up on Rupert Murdoch, the southern strategy and Nixon's State sponsored propaganda media plan and the slimy shit that lead to the trump hegemony over 3-5 decades.

Luthor is based though

Can't understand you with all that tranny cock in your throat mate.

Lex Luthor wasn't his arch enemy at first, it was Ultra Humanite who was crazy scientist.

>nuclear family
Why tho?
There's nothing that astounding about 50's housewife fetishization

I also feel like it's worth noting that almost all of the black characters created at this time besides John Stewart and Jackie Johnson were created with specifically Stan Lee and/or Jack Kirby at the helm of the book, regardless if was at Marvel or DC.

>not wanting illegal immigration doesn't make someone racist either
Of course not but conservatives keep trying make it that way. That's more of that overlap
Also, I didn't mention socialism, my dude.

>Trumps actually been taking us OUT of the Middle East.
He actually believes this

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Conservative people IRL and not what the Young Turks sell you as conservatives are pretty honorable, chill, cool and accepting and I say this as a Mexican. I'd much prefer hanging with Texas peeps than the cynical, hypocritical, depressed, back stabbing, hateful lefties who would turn stab you in the back for some retweets if you missed a letter when talking about the LGBTHHFAHSAJIQWIMS

>No Superman was just supposed to stand against corruption
by action comics #3 superman was trapping businessmen inside of coal mines and threatening to keep them there unless they improve conditions for their workers. He was a leftist populist strongman fighting for new deal reforms, being anti-corruption was just a part of it especially when most of the corruption he fought was coming from the business sector

Let's keep this about which characters have which political beliefs or this thread should be deleted.

>Why should a child have 2 parents
Really user?

I was going to argue with that but lol, the first two who replied to you literally proved your point. Nevermind conservatives are all alt-right internet-goon faggots rn.

>Keep trying to make it that way
You mean CNN keeps telling you that.

>Conservatives are only conservative against liberal ideas that they see as wrong
And the distinction between what movement's see as "wrong" divides them as separate conservative movements while their shared intractability is what unites them as "Conservative's." This is text book Socrates (what makes a thing most a thing must define that thing I.E. being "Conservative") and Aristotle (if a thing can be defined but that which it is, can a thing not also be defined by that which it is not? The lack of consensus would then define each thing separate about each separate "Conservative" movement.)
>They are not against all change, just the ones the democratic party wants
You're applying modern American politics to a wider historical ideological divide.
>Trump was the biggest change the fucking US presidency saw in decades
Make America Great Again. Trump is (ostensibly) an advocate for a return to previously held beliefs and the economic prosperity that those beliefs supposedly created. He's a change in a decades long shift but a traditional Candidate when measured against a centuries (possible millennia) old ideology.

>TFW liberals call me uncle tom and house nigger but think they are progressive and woke

>conservative characters that aren't treated evil for not being liberal
Hey Yas Forums fuck you and fuck off

>Fails to realize that conservative as a concept only applies to what it is being conservative against
No conservative wants literally no change user.

Lex Luthor would probably build some super mecha penal colony with high living standards for mexican immigrants and foreigners in exchange for profiting his cosmopolitan business, which Superman would want to tear down and send them back to dirt countries because it's "Exploitation" and Lex's evuuuul tricks.

In other words Lex is a liberal and Supes a conservative.

Anyone have the comic where superman tells illegal literal aliens to fuck off?

You wouldn't be able to convince any of your SJW buddies that Superman is one of them. Go ahead and try. Superman is the embodiment of the establishment they oh so hate. He is about nuclear family, heartland, Christian values and Apple pie. You comparing 1938's standing up to the little guy to 2020's socialist is fucking ridiculous.

You are also talking about a proto version of the character that grew up in an orphanage, hardly the definitive version.

Just because Batman shot people early on doesn't make that the 'core' of the character nor what the character stands for ultimately.

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Superman would tear it down because of the exploitation but allow them to continue living here while taking up jobs. he wouldn't send them back to "dirt countries" as you described.

>"Conservative people IRL and not what the Young Turks sell you"
>turns around to spew Yas Forumsfag caricature of progressives
lel

Why tho?
In the majority of the world a child is raised by like 15 extended family members for social support. I don't really see how 2 is of an exact specific gender is any specific benefit.

What's astounding is how quickly people turned to shit once the nuclear family started to erode. Funny ain't it.

>Why tho
Because 2 parents are objectively the best way to raise a kid and multiple studies prove this.

Actually Fox News told me.

C'mon you cannot seriously expect a Yas Forums thread on Yas Forums to stay civil in these times.

>Trump literally pulling troops out of Syria a few months back.
Remember when dems were against war in the Middle East. Remember when they said Trump was gonna cause war. Then he does pull troops out of the Middle East and the dems whirled on their shit heels and said we were “betraying our allies.”