ITT Discuss villans you think were good. So, he's the bad guy right, but he was justified in what he did though. His daughter was actually still alive in the alt dimension place so can he really be blamed for what he did? The actual bad guy was the asshole who left her in there, yeah Yokai killed Hiro's brother, but it was a genuine accident.
ITT Discuss villans you think were good. So, he's the bad guy right, but he was justified in what he did though...
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Isn’t that Lord Deathstrike?
Motive and justification aren't the same thing.
Better twist would have been hiro's brother being the big bad
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But if he didn't do what he did his daughter would have stayed gone forever.
This film was such a step backwards from Frozen. Not bad, just really generic and uninspired. Feels like an extended pilot for a show
I though the fact that the rich ceo guy didn't get punished at all, nor did the main characters even seem to think he is a bad person was crazy and even sort of dystopian
I'm not wild about the Panda movies but Lord Shen was fantastic
He is pretty much a prick though
>dude my daughter died so I will murder innocent people including my own friends and give zero fucks LMAO
trash
If he was willing to go that low he could simply shoot the guy at anytime
Yeah, i hated how he shows no regrets in trying to kill a bunch of teenagers multiple times, and in violent ways too. There's no nuance to him
He deserved a better, and longer, film
He may have done some bad things but he was completely justified.
lol no
Unironically top tier
Said as much in the Madagascar thread and I'll say it here.
Captain DuBois is one of the most underrated villains in all of animation, and if this character was in a pre-2010s Disney film, she'd be spoken of under the same reverential awe as characters like Ursula, Hades and Jafar.
the flood series that ryan dorin did is legitimately very well written and little king john is probably the best villain hero I can think of. His arc is top-tier.
I prefer tai lung because of his relationship with shifu, but shen serves well enough to give po something to strive against. they only barely touched on shen's issues with his parents, he didn't have the backstory that tai lung did
I liked him too. I actually appreciate how when Disney made every Marvel villai. “Hero’s powers but bad,” Yokai had a completely different power set than the heroes, which forced them to think outside of the box.
I also think Callaghan was a good villain in that he just feels like a lost soul. When his daughter is saved, he can’t even truly be happy, because he realizes the cost he paid for it.
So was Tai Lung. I feel like people write him off too much.
Tai Lung and Shen are great villains because they both represent aspects of Po, and the things he has to learn or overcome.
Tai Lung was a natural talent, physically fit, and a traditional fighter that felt betrayed and shunned by his adoptive father. Po on the other hand didn’t have natural talent, was durable but slow and had poor cardio, fought best by thinking outside the box and improvising, and had a strong bond with his father that helped him understand the scroll when Tai Lung couldn’t.
Lord Shen represented Po’s fears of identity, the nagging sense that he’ll never be whole, which what Shen in turn felt about himself and his “destiny.” Po learned to let go of his anger and doubts, whereas Shen allowed himself to be swallowed by them, accepting the fate he carved out for himself.
I honestly don’t like what they did with his character after season 2. I liked him as a genuine threat.
He didn't know she was still alive. His only reason for reconstructing the portal was to destroy KreiTech.
He got lucky.
I personally think he's a great villain, and had great motivation, but he was driven entirely by revenge, not trying to save his daughter.
That's why he's a great foil for Hiro. Hiro could just as easily become a villain by desiring revenge on Callaghan, but Hiro had a good support system with his friends and family to keep him from going that route.
>Better
Nigga I will fight you
>kills Hiro brother for absolute nothing
Dude deserves worse than jail
Dude did absolute nothing wrong
>shen doing his bussines fine
>"black and white is gonna kill you lololol"
>wonder why he turned genocidal
Still doesn't make Panda 2 a good movie tho. I agree with everything said here film.avclub.com
Oh yeah, an executive negligence result into an accident where his daughter die so the guy decide to fuck with thousands of jobs and dozens if not hundreds of innocents lives including children just to make this guy... lose his job.
Yep totally justified.
A villain doesn't need nuance if they have charisma.
Hard disagree. The film did a great job portraying loss and grief and the massive influence they have on the direction of one's life. Hiro and Callaghan were a good protagonist/antagonist duo because of how similar their backstories were.
The movie also had a lot of engineering porn, but that's just something I personally enjoy a lot.
They were just foils to each other, which is a standard trope