I’ve always enjoyed the old Popeye cartoons
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I’ve always enjoyed the old Popeye cartoons
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The ones by E.C. Segar
So true! Find reprints of Segar's THIMBLE THEATER if you can. Some of the best comics ever published.
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The ones with Popeye in it. Failing that ones with Popeyes chicken.
This is bad advice. Most comics drawn after Bud Sagendorf took over are mediocre at best. Go the originals.
I'll have you know that the Popeyes Chicken comics are the best ones, Segar himself said so.
Must have been during a seance, he died in 1938.
>barely any of the Thimble Theater strips that predate Popeye are available anywhere despite a lot of them being really fucking funny
Why is this allowed?
They republished some of the pre-popeye stuff but its probably not a big seller without popeye's name on it
Unfortunately, yes. It's of historical value.
It's stunning to realize how WIDE newspapers used to be. The Sunday color pages were immense. Reprinting them in smaller sizes doesn't really do this justice.
Well, if I win the lottery this time...
>I’ve always enjoyed the old Popeye cartoons
The ones from '30 - '40s I assume (aka the only ones that worth watching today)? Cuz the later Popey cartoon from '60s and later loook meh today. Just like with Tom&Jerry's case.
Think about it both shows were great at their early era with more beautiful animation and more political incorrect humor.
You should watch the movie if you haven't.
Popeye the Movie bombed and has been routinely panned, and honestly, I don't know why. It's an incredibly faithful adaptation of the old Thimble Theater setting that Popeye originated in.
I know, right? The songs are wonderful, the casting is wonderful, the set designs are wonderful, the effects really evoke the spirit of a cartoon . . . It's one of my favorite films.
I feel like it's because the audience was more familiar with the cartoon at that point than the comic. If the Segar-era comic had been getting reprinted on a regular basis and in a way that regular people were able to get them, I think they might've liked the movie a little more.
The 30s cartoons were theatrical cartoons aimed at a general audience, which included adults. The 60s cartoons were a TV show aimed at kids.
It's actually kind of amazing the extent that the Segar comics fell out of print despite being so well known and loved.
King Features actually forgot that Bluto was even a Segar character and not created by Fleischer; that's why they created Brutus as a stand-in for the character. That'd be like Marvel Comics introducing Demogoblin because they thought that the Green Goblin was invented for Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends.
I saw some Fleischer cartoons at a retro art cinema and they were astonishing on a big screen!
Yeah, they also had vast differences in budget.
How the fuck did it bombed? For a live action adaption it was great, especially for its era. And instead crappy live action adaptions have print money.
The music is poor,the pacing is slow and the final scene with the theme song was embarrassingly bad.
It LOOKED great and Shelley Duvalle was inspired casting. But it missed the energy and sass of the cartoons, let alone the strip.
Yes. Any cartoons with Popeye in a white suit instead of the captainoutfit can be skipped.
Robert Altman was a grezt director for humani nterest or slice of life stories. Popeye needed, i don't know, someone like Richard Lester?
>the music is poor
just . . . objectively wrong
>the pacing is slow
It's one of those movies that doesn't need some grandiose plot. It's more about just getting a feel for the little world the characters are in.
>But it missed the energy and sass of the cartoons, let alone the strip.
Did you even watch the movie?
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I saw the movie in a theater. It was a big disappointment.
The Fleischers color czrtoon where Popeye meets Ali Baba was quick-moving, inventive and had a sort of 3D effect in many shots. More fun than the Altman movie.
To each his own; watching it was bliss for me.
When I was a kid, I prefered the Famous Studios Popeye cartoons to the Fleischer shorts. The Fleischer shorts always looked so damn terrible. It was years later before I realized that Turner had the black and white Fleischer shorts colorized into looking like pure shit. After being able to see the black and white shorts, I haven't been able to sit through the Famous Studio shorts anymore.
That was one of those things Max Fleischer experimented with. He made miniature rotating sets and and overlayed the animation on them. I know he at least did it for the two reelers (Ali Baba, Sindbad, Aladdin). I guess it's similar in a way to how he developed rotoscoping to make character animation, like in Superman, more lifelike.
This will always piss me off.
My whole life I've heard great things about Thimble Theater, and I've seen a proper collection for an affordable price.
It didn't bomb. It actually did fine at the box office, but afterwards people latched onto this idea that it was a disaster.