Soooo....Is he still the second most powerful being in DC Canon? Has he faced Dr Manhattan yet?

Soooo....Is he still the second most powerful being in DC Canon? Has he faced Dr Manhattan yet?

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No because it's not DBZ or other shounenshit, DC cares about their cosmic entities

He better be.

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>Is he still the second most powerful being in DC Canon?
Yes
>Has he faced Dr Manhattan yet?
No.

Lucifer is so powerful that he'd use Doctor Manhattan as a club to beat Perpetua to death with. Giving him a power level is meaningless. The only statement that matters is he is on par with Michael and lesser than God. That's it. Everyone else can go home.

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Are the Endless not in DC canon anymore?

They are. Been a little while though, I think the last time any of them showed up was back during one of those atrocious Metal events. The new Dream, Daniel, met Superman and Batman.

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You can't really put the Endless, Lucifer, Michael or God in the same powerlevel chart as Dr Floppydick or Superman etc.
They are beings none of them could comprehend.

Has this cunt run into the cosmics yet?

I want to see him either get his shit slapped in, or watch DC kowtow to shitty opinions and ruin their cosmics by letting goth clown shit on them

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If DC are smart they'd have kept their upper bounds in Vertigo.

They're not smart, though.

Well apparently he's also GEB now too so yeah I guess

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The what?

I see Lucifer is looking like David Bowie again.

He's now Perpetua's boytoy after replacing Lex

Huh, thats worrying. Him being around that tier means hes in a position to plot bs his way to reaching it.

>michael
>a puny archangel against a cherub
>on par

The Endless are the most powerful because they always do sly deals to help each other out, you can't beat that kind of support network as a lone wolf, like what's the point of killing Lucifer when his BFF Death will just refuse to take him everytime

opposite of the presence. GEB's supposed to be the thing that was there before the presence made everything.
got absorbed into the presence because one thing can't exist without it's counterpart like good and evil.
tho it wasn't actively malicious, it was just like a big baby throwing a tantrum cause magic users were fucking with it.

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Why are power-level fags so brainless and unable to enjoy a medium unless it's "HE SO POWERFUL HE CAN BEAT _____ IN A FIGHT"

DC Lucifer has always been based on Bowie. But yeah, that's clearly based on Bowie's The Thin White Duke persona .

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>Death will just refuse to take him everytime

IIRC it isn't that Death refuses to take him it's that she can't. Thats what I remember when she talked to Lucifer when he was in that inbetween death state.

Superman Thought Robot = Superman Prime One Million >The Empty Hand > Lucifer > Dr Manhattan > Earth-4 Captain Atom

Bad guys tend to have a power cap in the DCU since they always job, but since The Empty Hand is literally our own indifference to superhero stories, having infected Earth-33, he's basically locked in a constant struggle with the platonic ideal of Superman, as represented by Gold Prime Superman/Thought Robot.

Lucifer and Dr. Manhattan strike me as being roughly equal in terms in being hyperaware and powerful but Lucifer gets the edge by being an actual mythological character, Allen Adam/Captain Atom loses a point by being mental unstable.

>Earth-4 Captain Atom
What did he do?

ate dicks

Empty Hand should be stronger.

Shut up you dumb power level fag

Which is why I said "again"

Took apart a dog, helped stop Mandrakk the vampire at the end of everything that eats narrative

No. Neither Lucifer nor The Presence are even in the top ten anymore.

Hahahahahhahahaa fuck off gaimanfag.

No. Prime one million is still capeshit, str is bigger than superman, is not a power level you dumb powerlevelfag. Str is an archetype.

Why is DC cosmology so much worse than Marvel cosmology?

Is he more powerful then the Presence, A.K.A. God?

What a retard, Morrison made it pretty clear that was the Gentry in Multiversity

Lmao.
Remember when the Batkek defeated the Overmonitor, the Antimonitor, The Spectre, the Phantom Stranger and the black guy monitor that I forgot his name ?

seeThat's what happen when you fuse the Batwank with the Jokerwank

Wrong. The girl he gave god powers too is the strongest. Presence is second. He's third.