How does Yas Forums feel about Bloom County?

To be fair the people voting against him also couldn't fucking remember what he was like in the 80s because I basically never hear about that either.

It's something to read at least once. May not be your favorite newspaper strip but it made an impact in the 80's and in the 90's with Outland that I can see it's influence in today's funnies.

As a person that was born in 1976 I always loved it. It was great for its time.

Best way I can describe it is in the context of "NOT Hillary" plus the blind polarization now.

>80's Trump = clown
>90's Trump = clown
>00's Trump = clown
>10's Trump = savior of the galaxy

I don't get it myself, that last election made me really wish for some kind of boring Mccain vs Kerry battle of the John's. What we ended up with was a South Park "Douche vs Turd Sandwich".

It's not hard to imagine, Trump despite fucking up in business a few times (remember when people joked about him being bankrupt in the early 90's?) is really good at crafting an image and recovering. Think about The Apprentice, his involvement with WWF/WWE, or all these commercials he's appeared in the past decades:
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And is partly right: I honestly think there was way too much arrogance on part of the entertainment industry and their media shills. I noticed this happening even with comics sites but you could see it happening at a lot of places over the course of the 2010's. They didn't realize the more they tried to antagonize everybody while claiming a moral highground, they would end up driving people to support someone like Trump.

My parents used to love this. They had dozens of clippings from the strip's original run, and a few collections, so I grew up with it well after it stopped running. The political satire was lost on me as a kid, I just liked the characters and the wacky situations they would get into. I can appreciate a lot more now, but at the same time it's not nearly as funny. Hindsight is a bitch.

I can't look at it anymore without thinking about Britbongsteros.

BILL AND OPUS FOREVER!

For some reason this was a part of my childhood library.
It's weird because I was not aware of the comic nor were my parents fans.

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That; Goodnight, Opus; and A Wish For Wings That Work were the three Outland-related children's books he did while doing Outland. He did other children's books after those, including Mars Needs Moms.

Michael Moore said something like: "Donald Trump is a human molotov cocktail, and come November, people are going to throw him through the window into the White House, just to watch it all burn... The election of Donald Trump will be the greatest 'Fuck you' in human history."

Which I always thought summed it up. Very narrow margin to be sure, and if it was anyone but Hillary, it might not have worked.

Good thing they learned their lesson and nominated someone young and hungry like Biden. With the tireless energy, brilliant campaign speeches, and bold organizing that allowed him to prevail over Bernie, Trump is in for a fight. Imagine if they were silly enough to nominate an old apparatchik who made it so student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy, has a history of creepy behaviour around women, and shady connections to Ukraine, thereby hamstringing themselves on key lines of attack they might want to pursue against Trump. It'd be a sign the Democratic party is so insular and boneheaded it probably needs to be burned to the ground.

It was way before my time, and I still don't understand the jokes or some of the cultural or political references.
And yet, it's possibly my favorite comic ever made. There's nothing else I can read that is as comfy.

I'm younger than you but I think the bafflement coming from reading Bloom County is the same. Like I sat there talking to adults, referencing the comic and whatever the fuck older people MUST have had at the time: TV, news, magazines, anything - I asked them why in the fuck does it seem like there was this 20 year gap in their memories where it seems like they didn't go outside or have a TV. Because unless they're completely fucking stupid, the only plausible scenario was that they didn't read or watch TV all throughout the 80s and beyond, which we all know isn't the case.

I felt like I was taking crazy pills because here was a young person lecturing fucking old people on a generation of Trump parody that I didn't even live through or experience first-hand. And they were giving me this look like I was talking about shit they had zero knowledge of. And again, this is both people who are for and against the man.

As an aside, it's worth expanding on South Park. I'm not blaming South Park but South Park basically raised a generation of young people to think, "Things suck because people are stupid, let's laugh at those people", which bred a sentiment that the only thing you can do is give up and have a laugh rather than care or do something to change the shittiness. Voter statistics have shown that young people have never been more disengaged and political parody and things like South Park contributed.

In regards to the commercials or WWE, I just don't think he changed people's minds but that it was the erosion of time that did all the work. I think people couldn't remember shit and the only Trump that exists in their heads was the one from The Apprentice. And the reason why I think that is because I can reference people like Reagan or even Bush Sr. and people who actually lived through those times can't say anything in response. The public's baseline knowledge is grossly inadequate to even have a conversation.

As the guy who talked on BC Proper being thirty years early this thread got legitimately fascinating.

I wish I could expand more, and I'll try, but not only do I think is right on the ball with young people, I think the boomers got fat, lazy, and then 9/11 turned them on their heads at exactly the time someone shouldn't have a major crisis - and this was an epic national one. Younger people weren't yet getting soft and established, but they couldn't control the insanity the boomers led them into, which helped the cynicism South Park was contributing to. With all the endless war and cutting of social programs and clear inability for most young people to start families, while boomers just kept getting into a weird brand of senility and insanity, is it any wonder someone like Trump could swoop in as a snake oil salesman? The man as another user said is indeed damn good at his image whatever else. I wonder if his shameless parodies only helped him in that regard versus the sheer bungling the Democrats kept doing - you expect 'stupidity' from Trump as an endlessly lampooned figure (the guy was in Home Alone 2, hee hee ha ha!) versus the 'professionals' going against him really fucking up what's supposed to be THEIR career jobs.

I keep hoping beyond hope once the boomers retire it'll get better for millennials and zoomers alike. Feels like baby boomers have been in power for ten years too long in natural terms.

>Imagine if they were silly enough to nominate an old apparatchik who made it so student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy, has a history of creepy behaviour around women, and shady connections to Ukraine, thereby hamstringing themselves on key lines of attack they might want to pursue against Trump.
Oh blah fucking blah, anyone who pays enough attention to care about any of that would have paid enough attention to know Trump is provably ten times worse.
And anyone who'd vote for Trump anyway would have done it regardless of whoever you put on the Dem ticket.
Trump is being a maniac that's killing tens of thousands of people every day because he doesn't want the stock market to dip by keepign people safe indoors. He's literally inciting insurrection by screaming "LIBERATE MICHIGAN" right now despite Michigan having more then twice the corona deaths of California while having less than a quarter of the population.
You can slap on whatever the fuck you want about Biden and smear him with whatever half-assed accusations you like but in the end none of it will ever come close to being as bad as a proven adulterer who kidnaps children en masse as a scare tactic and then pushes his own supporters to die of a plague just for a few extra dollars while sucking Israel and Saudi Arabia's cock right off.

Here's Matt Taibbi, who I still think had the best take on it:

rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-162952/

>In person, you can’t miss it: The same way Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house, Donald on the stump can see his future. The pundits don’t want to admit it, but it’s sitting there in plain view, 12 moves ahead, like a chess game already won:

>President Donald Trump.

>A thousand ridiculous accidents needed to happen in the unlikeliest of sequences for it to be possible, but absent a dramatic turn of events – an early primary catastrophe, Mike Bloomberg ego-crashing the race, etc. – this boorish, monosyllabic TV tyrant with the attention span of an Xbox-playing 11-year-old really is set to lay waste to the most impenetrable oligarchy the Western world ever devised.

>It turns out we let our electoral process devolve into something so fake and dysfunctional that any half-bright con man with the stones to try it could walk right through the front door and tear it to shreds on the first go.

>And Trump is no half-bright con man, either. He’s way better than average.

Matt Taibbi, February 24, 2016

That Opus penguin duck thing weirded me out when I was little.

>better for millennials and zoomers alike
Assuming the status quo remains, the older generation retiring will change very little. And I say this in regards strictly to the situation regarding jobs and income. The older generation earned a salary off the back of an education, job security (unions), or just raw seniority (right place, right time) that doesn't exist today besides education. Today, you basically need to be holding some sort of paperwork to even do anything that has a chance of owning your own home and a car.

You'd think that retirement removes the job opportunity barrier but those opportunities are offset by a few things: one, if kids can't afford education now, they won't be fucking educated by the time the job opportunities come up; two, an endless number of positions occupied by older people are going to be replaced by automation: including lawyers, radiologists, down to truck driver or production-line labourers.

Retirement is a small relief to a problem that is much broader in scope. The only response for youth is to take isn't to hope but to bust your hump taking some night courses at the local college so that when the opportunities arise they have something in hand. The military might pay for one's college if you don't get blown away in the process or learn to hate the system. And for some insane reason, the time in the military and the certification earned there doesn't always transfer to the exact same job in civilian life. And nobody's telling kids that and that there is nothing automatic about simply going to school or serving, they need the entire fucking journey planned in order to not hit a brick wall half-way there.

You can depend on him for reliable good opinions about anything. America has lost its Cronkites and it needs them. Taibbi and others like him should be household names but they aren't.

>America has lost its Cronkites and
Wait wasn't Walter Cronkite a lifelong closet leftist who lied about the Vietnam War?

I'm aware that Trump was seen as something of a carnival barker in the 80s, that he was that dude who operated casinos and hung out with pro wrestlers and snobby WASP types thought that was absolutely vulgarian.

"I'm not Trump." wasn't good enough in 2016 it's not good enough in 2020.

>I keep hoping beyond hope once the boomers retire it'll get better for millennials and zoomers alike.

I wish I could have your optimism. Being a millennial myself, I have no faith that my generation can really make any headway on the issues we've been left with. The playing field's much too different, and mindsets are much too warped from living under the thumb of baby boomer's narcissistic policies. If anything, it's going to be business as usual with a progressive coat of paint.