Why weren’t there any human antagonists? (Aside from maybe Ronaldo) or more species of invader aliens?
Why weren’t there any human antagonists? (Aside from maybe Ronaldo) or more species of invader aliens?
Daniel Price
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Colton Richardson
because Rebecca Sugar is a species of writter called "Tetsuyus Nomurus", also know as FUCKING HACKS
Isaiah Nguyen
Oh and Kevin to, but I’m speaking of more enemies that were actually an actual threat for the characters
Josiah Hernandez
the only human antagonist was steven's self-destructive tendencies
Tyler Mitchell
Because thats not what the show was about. No seriously, for a show about aliens coming to earth to fuck shit up it lacks alot of things you'd expect to see in the show like the US government doing literally anything about it.
Josiah Bailey
user have you even seen the show?
Gems existed on earth far longer than US did. Heck they existed longer than humans did.
Jonathan Cox
>human antagonists
Before Future it was understandable because everyone in Beach City is already a lazy bum. During Future I'm surprised a gem hate group didn't form. It would have made the show way better than Steven's autistic shitfit
>Other aliens
On the one hand I'm kind of glad we didn't, but on the other hand it would have been neat to see aliens whose homes were taken by homeworld rise up for revenge. Hell the movie would have been kino if Spinel was leading a resistance full of alien survivors.
Caleb Scott
With the fact that Pink's tears can create superpowered humans, I'm shocked we didn't get an arc about humans who escaped the Zoo and went rouge
Easton Fisher
why Doesn’t the government do anything about this race of alien rocks that tries to destroy the planet? If this was real life the government would’ve sent millions of soldiers, tanks, bombers and rockets
Levi Adams
Alright unless they address that in some episode passed season 4 when i gave up on the series thats completely false. Did they specifically say gems got here before humans because i could have sworn half the reason pink defected was because of humans
Jason Butler
No, humans existed before gems went to earth
Justin Young
That's the weirdest thing, the government apparently doesn't give a shit about alien invasions. Hell even in the 80's Transformers cartoon the military were aware of the Decepticons and cooperated with the Autobots a few times.
Grayson Morris
Man, fuck you. Fucking hate human antagonists picking on aliens
Oliver Perry
Ronaldo should have been more of an antagonist
Imagine if he jerry-rigged some dangerous weaponry from the gem warship debris we see him take, or if Peridot's limb enhancers washed up on shore right at his feet
I don't really care about muh government plotline I don't think they would have jelled well with the show and would have just led to a lot of drag
David Clark
I'm sure some were pleased this wasn't the focus for once. It's funny how people say they want new ideas yet most of them expect or even demand including old cliches such as this.
Levi Robinson
But the thing is, you can't have it both ways.
>Why don't any governments interfere with Gems?
>Because Gems aren't new aliens, they were on Earth before humans.
>Then why don't humans or gems know much about each other?
>Because gems isolate themselves so humans don't know much about them.
Either gems are known all throughout the human population, or gems are strange urban legend creatures that people are only made aware of because their actions start having an intergalactic impact. You can't have both a group that hides from humanity but also some humanity knows about them and is okay with them. It's muddled and roundabout as shit.
Hunter Hall
They're deliberately unclear on it. Pearl recounts when Pink first went down to Earth in the guise of a Rose Quartz, but says it was after she'd already been in her service on Earth for some hundreds of years or something. Then Rose notices the existence of humans. So there's a vague window of opportunity where Gems arrived on Earth and then find out about humans, but it's unclear if humans were there the whole time but unnoticed, or sprang up at some point after the colony was established.
Jaxson Roberts
Because human villains kind of suck.
Also, unless they were trained by Gems like Connie or a half-Gem they would be more amusing than an actual threat, and those things would devalue the exceptional nature of the main cast.
Nathan Long
Humans are more like the Zoomans than humans in our world.
They fought alongside the Crystal Gems, and they had contact enough through the ages that human-resenting Pearl called Dewey’s ancestor a friend later in his life. They also live in a bit of a Dark Souls world where they settle the lands right up to Gem sites, but instinctively stay the fuck out and the human race has been swarmed by monsters like pre-Hellenistic Greece their entire history. But they also had less wars with each other through history, and are more culturally homogenous. Humans in SU also don’t cut non-Gem gems for jewelry and America put Pink Diamond’s Gem on their currency.
I saw the theory that SU humans are closer to being Homo Superior than we are, since we’re stuck at Homo Sapiens-Sapiens.
Oliver Cooper
It's acclimation - weird gem shit happening has been a part of the entirety of human civilization, at a certain point you just sort of stop acknowledging it as being out of place.
Put an orangutan in a man's office for a day and it's a distressing and unexpected surprise. Keep an orangutan in his office for 20 years and he completely stops noticing the 'ook'-ing during meetings, the banana peels on the floor, and the poop smeared on the wall, and when he retires and shows his replacement around the office and the young up-and-comer remarks about the orangutan the man just says 'oh that's always been like that, you'll get used to it'.
Jaxson Rodriguez
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Jayden Cook
This, the last thing you need is a "humanity bad" episode
Adam Harris
That is an oddly specific, yet completely apt analogy.
>#KeepCapeTownWeird
Jayden Young
Humans in this universe notably lack curiosity and mistrust when faced with something otherworldly. Only few individuals like Ronaldo and the journal guy even bother to notice the artifacts.
>Holy shit man, come see that! Donuts are now fucking half off! Also, the sky is now red for some reason, huh. Those donuts, tho!
Ryan Reed
Implying this entire serie isn't a half assed allegory to peaceful resolution of conflicts after S3, Gems are so inconsistently overpowered that Humans are almost insects against them, at worst they can just fuse into Obsidian and ass rape almost any kind of conventional military that gay ass version of earth w/ no nuclear weapons could've. Hell, fucking Lapis alone could do her own.
Justin Sanders
But the orangutan isn't in the office for 20 years. It's on and off. For long modern periods, there is no monkey in the office and then suddenly someone brings one in for a week with no explanation and even though you know monkies exist, you're wondering what the hell is going on.
The gems both isolate themselves from humans and also interact with them enough to have them reshape history. Gems don't even know what babies after 5000+ years of being on Earth, yet, humans fought alongside them in wars and worship them and include them in art?
It's just too cloudy to give a decent idea of how this world works. Do gems have their own Wikipedia page? Are they a lost culture in modern times? I don't know. Why did no government panic when the ocean was stolen? "It's not that kind of story" doesn't hold up as well in sci-fi stories where Earth is constantly used as an endgame threat.
Jaxon Nguyen
Even without the CGs and Homeworld gems actively showing up there's still no shortage of Gem landmarks, artifacts, and corrupted gems strolling around the planet.
John Long
Its funnier in the comics. Kiki knows Amethyst can transform and sees her turn into Puma and back again, and clearly gets the idea of Fusion but out loud she shrugs off Steven and her Fusing as “your friend who appeared to save us then disappeared again”.
Onion is fully aware of Fusion since he knows Pearl and Steven have to be together to hang out with Rainbow, not to mention he’s aware of the magitech devices the Gems have, but Sourcream is shocked any time he sees something and rationalizes it to himself.
Its not an “adults aren’t aware of this stuff” thing either. Greg was aware of the Gem War without being explained anything by the Crystal Gems, Vidalia knows basically what Gems are, and Earth has joined the intergalactic community after CYM.
Jaxson Myers
Yeah, the upside-down temple literally has murals of Gem history and them coming to Earth in the lobby.
Most humans probably shrug it off as a mythology that was spread by bronze age oceanfaring colonizers, with the government being aware Prometheus is real and she is a goddess of war and romance.
Michael Wood
The problem is that for every global phenomenon there are usually people with jobs devoted to keeping track or studying them. For example an alien might not know what weather is but there are people who watch and study weather for a living because it's a dangerous part of our world. Same with Volcanos, earthquakes, ancient ruins, dying tribes in the rainforest, etc etc. You don't stop acknowledging a force of nature that's always been there just because it's there. Especially if it's dangerous.
To elaborate on your allegory of the Orangutan there has to be someone taking care of it, cleaning up after it, or making sure it doesn't disrupt work otherwise there wouldn't be a work there in the first place nor would the orangutan live for that long.
James Lee
Stonehenge was built by humans and fascinates people so much, there's an entire page dedicated to its use in pop culture.
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I can't believe for a second that the only modern person curious about gem stuff that we've seen is Ronaldo. Even Gravity Falls explained it away as the townsfolk were having their memories wiped. There should be more gem archaeologists who keep flocking to Beach City as more of this activity happens and keep harassing the gems or trying to break into Steven's house to steal artifacts or have a Mr. Bubbles ala Lilo & Stitch agent whose sole job it is to cover up gem stuff or something.
If this show wants to have townie episodes, do something more interesting than just pizza dreams or hanging out with Onion.