Looney Tunes

Why did the Looney Tunes get so shit during the mid to late 60s

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Filmation. Nuff said.

Budgets -and- creativity lowered considerably. Who can blame artists for the latter after decades at it?

Chuck Jones got pushed out because he broke his exclusivity with WB and Robert McKimson left right around the same time, leaving Friz Freling and his lackeys alone to pick up the pieces. Budget cuts certainly did not help.

Warner Brothers closed the animation department in 1955. They reopened it in 1956 with lower budgets. That lasted until 1960, when David DePatie partnered with Friz Freleng and offered to produce the cartoons on a subcontract basis for even less money. Warners jumped at the chance.

They were trying to copy the low budget success of Hanna-Barbera

Why were they always pairing Daffy and Speedy? What a weird combination.

It's like, let's put Yosemite Sam against Tweety. Just makes no sense.

I remember watching these a lot as a kid because Nick only had the rights to post 1949 Looney Tunes.

Would love to know if there's an official explanation for this. Because as it stands it reeks of some executive wanting to have their own Donald and Chipmunks.

This bugged me too.

Is that when everything got all Pink Panther looking?

Panther came a little later

Was Speedy ever even funny, really? I feel like Tweety was a better foil to Sylvester in every way.

Speedy's not funny, but the other mexican mice are funny and are all the funnier when put in contrast against Speedy.

No but Slowpoke Rodriguez is based.

tom and jerry also got weird around this time
but i think the reason was they farmed off the animation to some communist country

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Warner actually avoided the UPA HB look throughout the 60s.
They did, however, make a massively shitty ripoff of Pink Panther. Here, they ripped off the UPA-HB style of animation, but this was the only one as far as I known.
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Speaking of DePatie, if you want to see how bad Looney Tunes can be, watch any DePatie–Freleng Road Runner cartoon.

As wel

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I'm guessing they thought Daffy could be as much of an everyman foil as Sylvester was.

Donald at least is usually portrayed as someone just living his life peacefully until he accidentally pisses off the chipmunks. Daffy is a total ass to Speedy for no reason, such as the episode where he refuses to let the mice dance to the music in his radio store and culminating in him destroying the entire radio station.

Honestly, the Chuck Jones era wasn't that funny and only a slight step up from the Gene Deitch era made in then communist Czechoslovakia.

It wasn't but I Chuck Jones' Jerry was cute. The Tom And Jerry Comedy Show is the worst Tom and Jerry show, worse than the one where Jerry had his bowtie.

The worst era. Tom gets paired with an extremely abusive jackass of an owner who beats up Tom for even the smallest of reasons. He never appeared again in later cartoons

The need to lower costs.

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youd think farming it out to communists would save you a shit ton of money that could be used to make it actually look good
what the fuck happened

Only a handful of animation made in communist countries looked good. The rest were more crude because they wanted to be surreal and experimental and "artsy". Central and eastern europe just doesn't get american slapstick.

All my life, I have instinctively known Looney Tunes went to straight shit after 1955, and now I know why. A few years later it started getting that crooked-black-lined, Pink -Panther-ass look and immediately blew dick. Pic related.

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>mid to late 60s
you just answered your own question

even as a kid i remembered being bored out of my mind watching that era

The late 1950s to late 1960s saw an arms race of trying to produce cartoons as cheaply as possible, regardless of quality. This was due to a mix of rising labor costs for animation and TV animation necessitating cheapness, which sort of bled over into theatrical releases since they were all being done by the same studios. By the very end of the 1960s Hanna-Barbera had perfected the formula, which is why they dominated throughout the 1970s.

Those two were the new Buddy and they killed the series for 11 years

And no new Looney Tunes during the '70s meant that era belonged to Dirty Harry.

I love how Daffy, Bugs and Road runner are all completely off model and Cool cat and Merlin look like they belong in a completely different series.

As a kid, whenever I saw that logo and heard that creepy intro music, I knew it was time to change the channel.

If I could have an unpopular opinion for a moment, I've grown to like the HB style. If they didn't recycle frames and had more movement, the cartoons would be much better.

And Boomerang still airs an ungodly amount of post 1955 Looney Tunes and pretty much nothing before 1945.

For some reason, boomerang only airs chuck jones tom and jerry shorts with the occasional Gene Deitch short.

The only thing Cool Cat will ever be remembered for is once-an-episode cameos in Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries.

I got a kick out of those. I think it was just the writers shitposting.

The style itself is actually fine, it's very appealing for the minimalist designs they were going for, even if they ended up getting pretty repetitive later on. There's a reason that the Scooby Doo gang is still so iconic to this day, and why they kept recycling the designs for other shows. Like you said though, the problem actually lay in the cheapness of the animation, especially character movements that feel stiff as fuck.

That whole show was a big shitpost towards weird spin-offs like "The Bill Cosby Mysteries". Feel free to mock that.

I might be misremembering, but didn't Sylvester fuck that cat Peepee La Pew was always chasing after or something?