Why do people say that comics pay terribly especially outside the big two?

Why do people say that comics pay terribly especially outside the big two?
It seems like IDW pays pretty well here per page.

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Because to meet dates you have to work like 100 per week.

IDW has the benefit of super low quality output. Its easier to pay your workers more when the work they do is fucking dog shit.

As a massive Ian fan, I gotta defend his run. IDW may largely be horrible, but Action Man was pure fun.

Deadlines are that strict?

>easier to pay bad workers more money
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Doesn't it take only like 4 hours to sketch and line a page for comics with easier character designs? Comics with easier character designs that comprise most of IDWs catalog?

>creatorresource.com/page-rates-2017/
Holy shit this is great, not for the reasons OP was trying to point out, but still great:

"Have you ever faced any challenges in the comics industry because of your race, gender or sexual orientation?"
>"I’ve been let go for trying to add more queer content to an established mainstream series."
Maybe casualgate was onto something...
>"Not me personally but I almost always get pushback on suggested collaborators & assistants on project proposals based on their identity rather than their proven talent and teamwork skills, no matter what it is. I’m a straight, white male and whenever I recommend a creator who is female or queer or a POC, the first question I always get asked is “Are they difficult to work with?” Yes, really.
Maybe it's because they know that 80% of the alphabet people in the comic industry are crazy? That may have something to do with it.
>"I have found the culture at IMAGE very straight, masculine and off putting."
Based McFarlane and his "No Girls" 1990s club.
Then we get to this gem of a question: "Are there any particular publishers (or specific people at publishers) you don’t want to work for or are wary about?"
>"Of the 142 people who responded to the survey, 20 simply wrote “Boom” as a publisher to be wary of"
>"General warnings without any additional information were provided for Space Goat"
When are we getting that Terminator board game, Space Goat? When you're done selling camping products on Facebook? (but seriously fuck 'em)

Yes, that's why comics with several artists have become so common
But most comics don't have "easy" characters designs plus you also have to research props, backgrounds and put them into the pages
Two character standing in a void talking is just a bad comic.

>whenever I recommend a creator who is female or queer or a POC, the first question I always get asked is “Are they difficult to work with?” Yes, really.
Maybe you shuld ask yourself WHY you get that question and WHy the people asking are wary of this?

Most IDW comics are limited in backgrounds and props.

But then you have something like the Ghostbusters books where almost every panel is packed full of details and easter eggs.

IDW pays like shit. What are you talking about?

>Maybe casualgate was onto something...
It's almost like fence sitters are in the pocket of SJWs.

Look at the prices on the site.

When I used to work at DC I was let go and someone in HR told me 'they didn't need anymore straight white males anytime soon'. This was shortly before they recruited Mags, Eric 'the rapist' Esquievel and Zoe Quinn. It was while standing in line for an in-house employee Scott Snyder signing when I was told this off the record.

Its very low rates. Fo you know how many hours it takes to pencil a decent page?

For a comic like Sonic, MLP, Steven Universe, or Rick and Morty probably four hours

This is hilarious.

Dang. At least Karma killed Vertigo.

These are the people in charge of IDW

IDW's MLP had/has several artists who just trace backgrounds of the show and had a pretty infamous incident where one of them just took clipart off the Internet instead of drawing something. He admitted he basically pulled an all nighter to draw two whole comics a few days before it was due, so I don't know what people expected.
Seeing a fan of the series get hired by IDW was pretty funny, the main writers and artists were super pissed and the editor denied his talent before conceding that he was better (he had redrawn an awful comic page in his style)

Well it does explain a lot.

Andy Khouri the guy who recruited all these weirdos is the guy who killed Vertigo lol

I'm glad, comics are dying. These fucking parasites infiltrate every medium they can.

Also multiple comics are worked on at once.

If you're a writer but I've never heard of an artist pencilling more than a book at once.

How do you get consistent work as a comic artist?

I don't know, I'm not one.

Still looks like working on a single book for most of these amounts to around 35-40K a year. You have to be in multiple books to do well. And a lot of people cannot really pull that off with deadlines, the amount of work involved, and just sending and reworking rejected concepts over and over again killing the deadlines.

>Of the 142 people who responded to the survey, 20 simply wrote “Boom” as a publisher to be wary of"
20 out 142 doesn't seem that bad. What am I missing here?

Yea usually, but you have to come up with the concept for the page from a script. Sent it to editorial for approval, they hate it so you have to sit around and think of a better page layout, send that in for approval, they hate it, repeat. Meanwhile they take hours to days to return their feedback to you and this just makes the deadline all the closer.

If you were just left all to your own to draw everything and be one and done, yea you can have it made in record time long before a deadline. And then take on another book or two.

>Still looks like working on a single book for most of these amounts to around 35-40K a year.
By USA and Canada standards that's normal.