No, seriously, why isn't the US army in DC comics fielding nothing but soldiers with mr. Freeze guns and other super tech?
Guys like mr. Freeze get captured constantly and all their weapons and technology confiscated: Why hasn't the US army in DC reverse engineered them to make an entire army of sci fi weaponry guns and Unkillable shapeshifting Clayface spies after people like HIM get captured?
They can't. These supervillains are either super geniuses or one in a million freaks of nature
Shit's expensive and just because it works out sorta well for some guy running around town occasionally fighting a guy in a cape with pointy ears doesn't mean it will work well in the field being abused by the kind of idiots who think an infantry MOS is a good idea.
Cold's gun is WAY more powerful and that motherfucker can build one from memory at a goddamn hardware store. Lex Luthor even admits that's bullshit
Cheaper to just use a regular rifle with physical bullets. Guns would be more lethal in comics if it wasn't for superhero/villain plot armor. More comic book energy guns doesn't less damage than a bullet if it hits someone.
Cold's gun require batteries. Freeze's gun is powered by his own fart.
Then equip your tanks with them, encasing a tank in ice is 10 times better than an explosive round.
Not to mention how easily things like clayface should have been replicated for assassins and spies.
His freeze ray's range is trash, I've never seen it used beyond close quarters. Most firefights are at far greater ranges.
It could be a niche weapon for SWAT or special forces, but might be too finicky to trust. I'd rather have a revolver that I know will always fire than some ultra high-tech freeze ray that needs a genius to maintain and test
same reason we don't use flame Guns in the real world its impractical plus cooling things require way more energy then heating
Freeze's gun is more humane and thus a better option that Cold's gun. Cold's gun is more variable and complex to use. Both have terrible range though and useless in a war zone or dealing with snipers.
Tanks can hit shit from 5 miles out since a round only loses energy from air friction. A freeze ray loses far more energy for every foot it travels as it cools the air it passes through
Good luck convincing anyone to become a Clayface. No sane person would ever agree to that operation.
You don't think there's people who are insanely devoted to their countries that would agree to it?
If there are people willing to perform suicide missions for a country, there should be people willing to be a clayface, especially if they're given large amounts of respect or perks by people in power for it.
>Freeze's gun is more humane
Cold's gun has several settings, both lethal and nonlethal
>It's shit in a war zone or dealing with snipers
Motherfucker that's horseshit. Snart fights the fastest thing in existence on a daily basis
The fastest thing in existence still gets in melee range
Shit, depending on the specifics, I’d pay to be one
>What is The Cold Field
Why do so many people on here not read The Flash?
Honestly though what are the drawbacks of being clayface? Not even in a “muh power battle way” just like in your average every joe life way. You can shape shift into anything, and nigh unkillable in the typical ways a average person dies. As long as your dick doesn’t taste like clay and you can cum normally/ reproduce, what’s the problem?
I think its implied that you can only maintain a human form for limited amounts of time with concentration.
They have it a lot of the time
And the moral of superhero stories is often that weaponizing technology is bad
That's like a major component of Hulk as a character
The problem with being Clayface is you go insane, because your mind is literally mush. There are instances where Clayface has struggled maintaining his sense of identity, which is reflected in his physical form. Karlo himself is incapable of looking like his old self too. So while you are the perfect imitator and living mud weapon, good chance is that you won't be able to control it
That’s so fucking Vague though to me, like couldn’t you just shape shift your mind to not be mush? And in The Batman it seems to be something the guy just got over eventually. And what even is considered concentrating when it comes to shape shifting? Like concentration and having a picture in your mind isn’t hard? Idk I’m trying to be faggot to molds something to not be shit, but idk it feels ill defined to me and that it might be more of a “this guy is shit at it but I’m not” sorta thing
>like couldn’t you just shape shift your mind to not be mush?
user are you fucking retarded? The mentally ill don't know they're insane. Also he literally slips into D.I.D. Don't use cartoons as a basis either
Flash isn't attempting to kill Cold. Flash ain't dropping multiple bombs onto Cold. Flash ain't attempting to snipe an unaware Cold from miles away.
>Flash isn't attempting to kill Cold
Cold and The Rogues have fought Speedsters intending to kill, and have killed them instead
>Flash ain't dropping bombs, snipe, etc
......You do realize Cold can stop bullets and other projectiles dead in their tracks, and are much MUCH slower than the shit they deal with each day? How the fuck do you think he hasn't been shot by cops after all this time? Cold Field is always up.
Why does nobody here read The Flash?
and loses all the time
Imagine having to keep a single image in your mind for an entire day. Any time you think of something else, you start to lose cohesion and look like a melting wax sculpture.
You have to constantly keep reminding yourself of all the normal functions that humans do on autopilot. You have to walk manually, pretend to breath, blink, ect. All the things that can clue people in that you're actually a sentient pile of mud.
There's a reason clayface defaults to vaguely humanoid. It takes a shitload of work to look and act human when you have none of the base structures and haven't been normal for years
Bullets travel faster than sound, if you're a soldier in some hostile city, you won't know to freeze the bullets until your buddy is already on the ground bleeding out.
Plus all Flash villains have precog, cause there is no way you can actually fight a creature moving at the speed of light.
Snart and Barry both hold back. The Rogues know that killing a member of The Justice League will result in the entire hero community hunting them down like dogs. That's part of the reason why they have a code, because all they want is to get paid. They're broken OP villains keeping their heads down. As for Barry/Wally, they don't kill for obvious reasons of course, and practically each Rogue is equipped to level the playing field
>Bullets travel faster
>Bullets are fast
>Fast
>"The Rogues are precog
READ
THE
FUCKING
FLASH
How much do you need spoonfed before you start to get it?
cause bombs kill more and better than guns and bullets
Can't block something that you don't know about with human reaction speeds. So either the guys with a boomerang or a flamethrower know where and when the Flash is gonna be, or the Flash is just playing with them
Either way, a normal soldier wouldn't be any more effective with a freeze ray than one with a gun.
>and practically each Rogue is equipped to level the playing field
Captain.
Boomerang.
A metahuman in some cases
It's hilarious watching you guys not know about the Rogues, and it's equally hilarious to watch
get pissed about it
So how do the Rogues deal with someone who can casually move faster than a bullet
Not him, but I just looked up commander cold and his cold field and it's pretty neat I guess. Kinda funny how he's not even a super smart scientist type yet he put together the strongest gun out of pure spite.
Environmental destruction is a war crime, and freezing over a fucking desert country definitely qualifies
If you honestly expect the logic out of a comic book universe go read something from a smaller publisher don’t expect anything from the big two in terms of consistent world building