I don't want to get into a huge flame war about which is "better".
I want to talk about why it seems the Manga industry seems to be more successful than western comics and being a manga artist is a more lucrative and reasonable career than Western comics. One piece being basically the most popular comic of all time (not counting spin offs or movies, just the comic alone).
I might be wrong, but this is my perception. What about the way Manga is handled that makes it what it is.
It's considered significantly more mainstream in Japan than American comic books are here. Even after the constant on ongoing comic book movies and TV shows.
Because in Japan manga is infinitely more popular than it is here, because they never had the comics code authority which effectively killed off a whole load of genres and left us with almost exclusively superheroes, which just weren't as popular after WW2.
So comics got left behind culturally and began to be seen as for kids only.
Because it's better
Europe, especially France, has a plentiful comics culture encompassing a full range of genres. I am not sure why it gets overshadowed by manga and capeshit so much.
Cuz Hollywood and weebs
It's pretty easy, really. Manga puts a ton of work towards getting people invested in their characters and style. American comics shit on their characters every chance they get.
Manga does have its advantages
>More creator driven
>Not bogged down by retcons or conflicting canon
>Sold in volumes, more content for your dollar
It's the same damn genre about roadkill being some prophesied champion of some poop kingdom. The castle smells like swampballs
Lack of cultural exposure. So little of it gets translated people srent aware. I wasn't really cognizant of euro comics until I started reading valerian.
>he doesn’t read manga
I feel sorry for you, user. You’re missing out on a lot of fun
>Depends on the creator, manga publishing companies can be a bitch to deal with.
>Your rose-colored googles are on too tight
>This is right
Another manga subgenre that bugs me. School is a hellhole where certain students are treated like crap. The adults are either nowhere to be found or impotent and/or incompetent. It gets so bad that the mistreated either commits suicide creating a curse or revenge rampage occurs
I need to check out comics from other cultures. Capeshit is boring and hot anime characters don’t save manga from being boring.
I hate weeaboos and I hate delusional weeaboos even more
Ahem.
Fuck manga, fuck shonen, fuck anime, fuck Japan, and fuck jannies
Cringe
>>Sold in volumes, more content for your dollar
What is a trade paperback
A thing more expensive than a manga volume.
Different IP and stories.
Internal consistency
Easy to get and read.
Uqiquitous
Isn't in a social and economic ghetto
Is part of the mainstream and wasn't pushed into the fringes forever
Is seen as entertainment in and of itself and not just something that they would sometimes use to make other media
Also, the disgusting talentless and oft objectivelt evil parasites who infest comics are quickly weeded out and publically derided.
1.Yes
2.Yes
3. I got both of them at the same sources but in Japan I know is lot easier to get manga then comic books in America.
4.What does that mean?
5.What does that mean?
6.Yes.
7.It's even to the point it's more comment and I animated show.And Austin got very faithful I got a sense of that manga in anime.
8.They're actually awesome problems with occasional manga making.Like this one guy made a series about a Japanese war criminal going to a new world because he had no regrets. when it was going to become an anime series is when people take a look at it and It got cancelled.And the creator of Totiko did do something that would get him registered as a sex offender in the USA.
And this.
As Someone who is a fan of both of them I what do I got the list.
I'd take the worst superhero book ever over this boring looking shit.
They're mostly about quirky Europeans living in quirky their quirky European backyards or journeying to exotic places to meet quirky, exotic people. Interesting stuff, but not the most exciting, especially the ones heavy on European humor, which can be self referential and his or miss
Manga in japan is more accessible. You can find manga compilations in any corner store that run the gamut of specialized genres and interests. In America meanwhile, you can only find comics in specialized hobby shops, and almost all of them are action comics.
Also, Japan's public transport system is way better than ours because they're a small country. Manga there is cheap and seen as disposable. You buy a copy of Jump, read it on the train to work, then recycle it when you get to the office. We don't have anything that facilitates the time necessary to do that.
Lastly, and obviously, there's cost. Manga is printed on newsprint in black and white. American comics are printed on nice glossy magazine paper in color. As well, most mangaka are paid more or less slave wages. Manga's just cheaper to produce.
Then of course there's the fact that almost all comics in America are distributed by Diamond, who demand that things be distributed in such a way or else they won't do business with the comic companies. So even if people wanted things to change, they can't.
tl;dr, Japan has geographical and cultural differences than America that makes manga flourish in a way American comics don't.
something for everyone - from aging office workers and housewives to small children - so manga casts a wider net while not having to worry about alienating what fanbases they already have
way fucking easier to keep track of as far as long-running serials go
My assumption is Covid 19 was released by DC throughout the world to prevent a One Piece from overtaking Batman in lifetime sales
>Also, the disgusting talentless and oft objectivelt evil parasites who infest comics are quickly weeded out and publically derided.
Nigga you on some shit
Real mystery.
If you're looking for big european comics you're looking for Donald Duck. While the publications began with american reprints, Disney couldn't produce enough material so european productions started taking over in the 1960s. US Disney comics have been stone dead since the 1980s, everything is drawn in Italy, Netherlands or Denmark.
user, they don't fuck around about manga in Japan.
They will throw the kind of people who are raping american geekdom into a woodchipper for the kind of shit they are doing here.
Figuratively and in teh case of the more crazy fans and yakuza, litterally.
>4.What does that mean?
Manga are everywhere and it's not uncommon to see a manga in someone's belongings, or car, or coffee table.
It's more respecrted and normalized then comics. Espescially modern comics.
>5.What does that mean?
Comics are for "those kinds of people" and not all people. Or certain age groups.
Economic ghetto? Do I have to explain the whole diamond and enslaved LCS "relationship". It's fucked.
American comics are objectively terrible and the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
Manga: Laid out set of rules and laws, restraint, subtle if it even exist reference to the real world and problems, made generally with an ending in mind.
Western Comics: No rules, no restraints, marketed to sell toys, no ending (so that they sell toys), villains rarely die (toys/no ending), always trying to shoehorn real world problems, politics, gender roles, religion and other shit nobody cares about to sound more "adult" and "real"
Conclusion:
Read only western comics that have an ending and doesn't want to sell you toys.
Read anything you like from Manga but rather steer from anything excessive ecchi that tries to fool you that it is deep.
I think he's talking about how manga tends to only have one author, instead of having rotating authors with different conflicting visions.