She's just a discount Azula

>it's more of its spirital successor.
I don't think you know what this means.

No? What would you make you think that?

This. It owes tons of its identity to Avatar and deals with many of the same ideas of the pressure of expectations that come with being a chosen one, the cost of war on the young, and abusive upbringings. If only it could be half as good as AtLA

Thats because Azula is an icon, and copying her is very popular these days.

Dominator from Wander Over Yander is the same

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And you're the one true retard

>many of the same ideas of the pressure of expectations that come with being a chosen one, the cost of war on the young, and abusive upbringings.
None of those things were invented, introduced or even turned popular by Avatar, you're a casual.

That is the most brainlet take I've ever heard
maybe you didn't notice that it was never inconsistent because all the other times you see azula when she's a "tactical ruthless genius", she is in a context where she has to act like that? She was never a character with a ton of screentime, almost all her screentime is from the perspective of aang. the very few times you do see her in a personal context you get pretty fucking blatant hints that she's got some serious problems. remember the Beach episode?

>he hasn't seen Avatar

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Yeah Dominator is clearly inspired by Azula.

>Female villain = AZULA!!!!!

Imagine being this much of a superficial brainlet.

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>but she realized they simply don't love her like family but she still want a family and cant help but feel frustrated over them refusing to be her family.

this is literally exactly what brought Azula down. Rewatch the show if you didn't get this because its pretty spelled out for you.

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Its not just that they're both female and a villain.

Alot of cartoons are discount Avatar. Avatar is sitting pretty on top of the skulls of its imitators as simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to cartoons.

You faggots are literally claiming that any villain with emotional problems is an Azula rip off if they are female.

Bandora had all those traits decades before avatar

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You're a retarded casual.

Thats a stretch

Here's another clearly Azula inspired villain

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Azula was a pampered daddy's girl trained from birth to be perfect. Handed everything on a sliver platter, even her raw strength, and still unhappy with it. She imploded because she's a megalomaniac that finally caved in to her own paranoia. She wasn't alienated. She even imploded the exact moment after being given everything she ever wanted. A natural ticking time bomb.

Possessed by her own incredible power and self destructed for it.

This is exactly what is going on. None of the people here put effort in to genuinely understanding what they saw or the character's motives. They just see a vague resemblance and let their hallucinations fill in the rest to make them right.

No, a stretch is calling everything Azula inspired when by this exact same logic she is a Bandora wannabe.

You're free to have that idiotic opinion about what happened to Azula but it doesn't matter because what actually happened to her in canon is the entire reason she's such a popular character now. She clearly was alienated/isolated and the only person she ever had a real relationship with was her father who was emotionally vacant. she didn't implode after getting "everything she wanted" she imploded after she realized she was completely alone and had lost everyone in her life.
feel free to continue being a stupid fucking moron who makes up shit to suit your bias because you hate a fictional character

And by this logic Bandora is a Morgan Le fay clone

Not him but feel free to be unable to understand the show and call any female villain with emotional or family problems Azula.

in WHAT way in Bandora's character arc like any of the characters posted in this thread? You are being autistic and denying an obvious trend by throwing in a barely related outlier.

I love this gay cat

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Are you just repeating what other people here say? Cartoons are the casual's medium.

And by this logic Morgan Le fay is basically Agripina Menor.

pathetic rebuttal

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You guys know its not an insult to point out that something is inspired by a very popular character in one of the most beloved cartoons of all time

dont you?

>unable to love people due to losing her family
>super competent female character with constant funny scenes and pointless conflict with her minions
>in the end is defeated by her own emotions

Fucking Dumbass

Azulafags be pretending that their waifu is this super original archetype and every female villain is copying her. whe Avatar itself is not even this so called original masterpiece, replace the bending with revolvers and Avatar turns into a western.

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All those insults sure make you sound more right, user.

They will never stop. They will never consider things like how Azula never lacked for power. How her father completely trusted her at every step. Even to the point of making her the new ruler of the fire nation so he could fuck off to rule the whole world. How she was pampered and privileged her entire life and purpose raised in to this role. Then immediately went nuts with paranoia.

NO NO YOU MUST BELIEVE ME THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS AN ORPHAN REVILED BY HER OWN SURROGATE MOTHER THAT IS UTTERLY POWERLESS AND WAS NEVER GIVEN A SINGLE THING AND HAD ALL WRONGDOINGS BLAMED ON HER INSTEAD OF THE GOLDEN CHILD.

Fuck sakes, Catra has more in common with fucking Zuko.

Pathetic is being a casual claiming that Avatar invented ancient tropes.

You're like those faggots who claim that Star Wars invented space adventures.

She wants Adora to fight her and defeat her so she can become Adora's pet.

This is retarded because you had to ignore 90% of the characters personality, story arc, design, and everything else that shapes a character in order to reach this stupid conclusion.

I can easily say that the movies How to Train Your Dragon and Brave are ripoffs of each other by comparing all the minor ways they are similar.

The characters posted in this thread have clear similarities to each other in personality, story arc, appearance, backstory, etc

why does acknowledging this make you so angry?

>This is retarded because you had to ignore 90% of the characters personality, story arc, design, and everything else that shapes a character in order to reach this stupid conclusion.
Just like you

>Then immediately went nuts with paranoia.

why do people just fucking lie like this? Dude, stop with this shit. Again you hate a fictional character so much you can't even remember what actually happened in the cartoon. Take a fucking breath and maybe try watching the series again.

>The characters posted in this thread have clear similarities to each other in personality, story arc, appearance, backstory, etc

Please take a fucking breath and read before you sperg, both of you.

No one is going to agree with you if you only repeat NO NO YOU ARE WRONG REEEE endlessly. That is what happened. Azula was promoted and started lashing out at her own servants. Even the caretakers that had always been with her. Then realized she couldn't even do her own hair without the people she just threw away out of fear they'd betray her.

Avatar is 12 years old. Azula is a popular character. Cartoonists today probably watched Avatar when they were younger. It was an influential show people still talk about. Really isn't hard to believe people took inspiration from it.

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One is a princess the other is a soldier, one had her biological family the other is an orphan, one spend the show trying to make sure his brother get jailed and replaced them while the other tried to convince their friend to be a soldier and be sucessful because it's the best for her.

Fuck off retard

Dominator is her own thing completely

>why yes, I'm the first female villain

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> Azula was promoted and started lashing out at her own servants. Even the caretakers that had always been with her. Then realized she couldn't even do her own hair without the people she just threw away out of fear they'd betray her.
Lol hilarious you're such a dipshit. fine, I'll explain what happened to Azula then you fucking moron

>The Beach
Azula admits to being hurt that she felt her mother didn't love her
>The day of black sun
Zuko betrays her
>the boiling rock
Mai and Ty Lee betray her
>Sozins comet
Ozai stabs her in the back by not letting her come on a mission she came up with, gives her an empty title
she becomes paranoid after she realizes she is completely alone and everyone has left her
she hallucinates her mother telling her she loved her

you must be autistic if you think that the writers threw all of this in and still YOUR interpretation is correct

No, not really

maybe not the first but certainly the best

which is why she gets copied

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>sadistic bitch want to fuck with everyone because she is too autistic to make friends

Lord dominator is a goofier Azula just like Lord Hater is a Skeletor clone

Dominator had no complexity whatsoever, the whole point with her was that she was just a horrible dick that liked to kill just because. She had no family or friends that pushed her that way, she just was like that. Azula and Catra arent just evil for the sake of being evil, they are like that for personal reasons. Dominator just has a fetish for torture and murder.

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she was born to suffer

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>One is a princess the other is a soldier,
azula literally is a soldier

>one had her biological family the other is an orphan
azula is abandoned by her mother

> one spend the show trying to make sure his brother get jailed and replaced them
you skipped the second half of season 2 and the first half of season 3 then huh

S2 was full of bullshit mary sues.
Zuko saved that season.

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Why so many people in denial

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bully the cat

abandon the cat

make the cat contemplate suicide

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The difference is that she's not doing it for any reason other than herself. Azula could say she's doing it for the sake of her empire. Catra blames her problems to other people hurting her. Dominator wouldn't even bother justifying her actions, she just does it. Yes, they are all autistic idiots that cant have friends, but Dom isn't really that affected by it. She doesn't even understand how friends could possibly make her happier because she's that evil.

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>s2
>mary sues
the whole show is full of katara

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you're now just pointing out superficial similarities. Catra and Azula have mommy issues but their situations are not the same as shown by their upbringing and their personalities.

Just face it, you are a casual and probably think that Star Wars invented the concept of Father vs Son or even "the villain is your father" twist.

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and that's a good thing

SOON

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>you're now just pointing out superficial similarities.
fucking faggot, I was responding to a post that was pointing out those "SUPERFICIAL" differences

why don't you bitch to that person instead of responding to me, unless you're the same person but just too retarded to realize how hypocritical you sound

Perhaps, but at least she's gonna get a full character arc!

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Let's face it Star Wars didn't invent shit, is a New Gods + Hidden Fortress shitshow

No I don't think star wars invented the concept of a very specific personality and character type for all of film the same way avatar did for cartoons

Ah, right, I forgot that we live in a patriarchal society so "villain being a woman" is a slim enough category for all instances to be considered basically the same thing.

The only one who justify their actions by excuses is Catra, the other 2 just lie to themselves and claim to be absolute monsters ignoring their own humanity just to be proven wrong in the end.

>muh this is misogyny card
dude, shut the fuck up

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>a dumb horny cat
>comparable to a literal genius
lmao

She needs corrective orgasm therapy.
I prescribe 24 hours strapped to a sybian followed by 3 days rest.

They are both DIO with boobs.

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*meows*

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sorry, but I can't see Azula ever singing "I'm the bad guy", and Dominator would never have a scene like this youtube.com/watch?v=1eFuxVdyha4

>azula is just crazy for no reason

btfo with one image

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good to know that "saving our shitty writing with social media posts" was a thing before Rebecca Sugar tried it

>Similarities
Mean girl with sadistic tendencies (this is pretty much a prerequisite for being a female antagonist and hardly counts)
Child soldiers raised by the bad guys
Crave the approval of others, particularly some parental figure
Psychotic under pressure?

>Differences
Azula's dynamic with Aang is completely different than Catra's relationship to Adora (this alone should be enough to establish then as different characters)
Azula is a prodigy several times more powerful and competent than Catra
Azula has a family, Catra is totally adopted
Azula is literal royalty, Catra is a grunt
Azula is Ozai's favorite, both Hordak and Shadow Weaver treated Catra like shit
Azula was 100% loyal to the Fire Nation and her father, Catra has never done anything that wasn't in her own self interest

I'm gonna say they're more different than they are similar.

>Child soldiers raised by the bad guys
>Crave the approval of others, particularly some parental figure
these could also count as prerequisite for being a female antagonist.

I firmly believe Jojo is many people's first anime.
This generation's NGE or FLCL