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BEST? - John Carter vs Valerian
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Ryan Ward
Am I the only one who thinks the John Carter movie is very underrated?
I've watched it once but I followed up all the weid names for things with ease. Must be a sign of good movie making, surely.
Aiden Nelson
My vote is for John Carter
Valerian is nice to look at but the leads have no chemistry. Bruce Willis in 5th element really carried the movie.
Daniel Ramirez
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No it’s a genuinely good movie.
Brody Cox
>John Carter
what is your obsession with ancient movies
it's one of those things where they spent a lot of money on hiring really professional crew and giving them time to work, but the movie doesn't reach expectations for the expenditure and its innate flaws are magnified by the spectacle which is itself only possible because of the spending
still doesn't make it Birdemic
honestly the casting in Valerian is so fucky I thought from the promo material they were meant to be brother and sister
made the opening... weird
Isaac Gutierrez
I think both films are underrated. Especially John Carter
I also thought Valerian was a better movie than The Fifth Element , which i always found to be overrated
Evan Nelson
>I also thought Valerian was a better movie than The Fifth Element
I mean this from the bottom of my heard.
Find a way to commit suicide and do it.
Jackson Hall
>eight years old
>ancient
You have to 18 years old to post here.
Thomas Lee
Its a series of books. Thats pretty much why the lore is so good.
Cameron Sanders
>strawpoll.me
I'll concede Valyrian was the better movie. But I've been a longtime fan of John Carter Of Mars and it makes me so sad it didn't do better.
Carter Wood
It was grossly overrated, once you got past how it looked there wasn't much else to it as it was, but then the latter half just goes full retard
Dominic Scott
I prefer Valerian. While it's true that the leads had no chemistry, they were good on their own and I loved the world build up around them. I can totally understand Yas Forums not liking it cause the comics have a really good dynamic between them, but I really enjoyed it for what it was.
Ayden Anderson
Bruce Willis sucks and 5th Element is way over rated. Moebius designs were great but that's it.
Xavier Harris
8 is 44.4444% of 18
a movie from 44.4444% of your life ago would have come out in 1990
Logan Garcia
43 year olds do post on Yas Forums, and are usually the more civil people here
Jayden Thomas
>what is your obsession with ancient movies
It's A or B choice. I chose, I wouldn't call that obsession.
Jack Ortiz
Yeah, not sure why it didn’t do well. Could have been a branding issue. Why didn’t they call it “Warlord of Mars”?
Jayden Miller
Mars needs moms bombed and some dipshit at Disney thought that "mars" was cursed or something.
Jack King
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Matthew Torres
Make a shitty movie
Oh it must have been the name. Nothing we could have done to make it better
Gabriel Smith
john carter isn't that bad, it just flopped and had a stupid overshooting budget'
valerian was a complete miscast for both its lead and would've been fine with any other actor and actress. clive owen was based in it though
Wyatt Hill
John Carter is legit okay and I'd defend that movie any day of the week.
Valerian is pretty much crap where they literally lay out the plotline for the audience 4 times in a row like we're 5 years old.
Christian Brooks
Yeah, good thing Yas Forums works in units of absolute time measurement as opposed to relative ones. Something can't be ancient if it happened a single generation (~20 years) ago. You can argue it's old, but it's not ancient since there are people alive who saw the event/media in question.
Origin era Betty Boop or Mickey Mouse are ancient, and even then it's borderline.
Hudson Phillips
Easily 'John Carter', it actually had a coherent plot.
Cameron Hill
Reminder that for no reason at all Jessica Rabbit shows up in Valerian
Levi Reed
Jack Robinson
is it really hard to believe that aliens wouldn't find that attractive when there are humanoids around? The plot for Valerian wasn't a mess, it was just kinda basic with flashy shit thrown together. And I really liked the Not-Avatar storyline
Daniel Morales
Fun fact the actress for Deja Thoris originally wanted a skimpy your outfit more like Princess Leia’s bikini in return of the Jedi but that never got off the ground because of Disney.
Camden Turner
It's funny the girl (I don't remember the actress name or her character) has more chemistry with some random guy than she did with her co-star. He seems like a co-worker that you kinda make up conversation with to pass the time.
Noah Howard
It didn't do well because...
> (1) The lead actor was being pushed on us around that time and people didn't take to him.
> (2) To uninformed people it looked like a rip off of Star Wars and other popular brands with them of course being unaware that this actually inspired those brands in the first place.
Jonathan Flores
Chicken before the egg.
The source material is older than star wars and heavily influence it.
By the time it got made into a movie people accused it of ripping off the thing that ripped it off.
Michael Hill
I honestly liked her FAR more than the lead actor, he just bored the fuck out of me. He just failed in every way to play the charismatic eurocomic lead that the story needed. She was the "side character" and wasn't supposed to be the main charismatic character but did it better. Still, they were pretty bad together except for like 1 or 2 lines. Still, it's a movie I can rewatch because it's different than hollywood movies. It was a hell of a lot better than many of the other movies that came out then, what was that random werewolf space movie with that 70s show girl in it?
Colton Lopez
The outfits we got was still pretty good and skimpier then Disney originally intended. And Lynn was great in the film.
Camden Campbell
Owen Reed
>what was that random werewolf space movie with that 70s show girl in it?
Well Jackie was in Jupiter Ascending, but I don't remember a werewolf in that
Kayden Flores
he was part wolf wasn't he? Or at least was with those tropes
Connor Miller
I forgot so much of that movie I couldn't tell you
Leo James
Speaking of underrated films cowboys vs aliens was actually pretty fun
Henry Roberts
Was that really Rihanna dancing in that movie or cgi/body double?
Elijah Thomas
meh, I forgot it as soon as I watched it, it wasn't even that pretty to look at.
Gavin Williams
I liked his wrist gun it reminded me of Pandorum. Ooh that was a good one too.
Sebastian Price
>strawpoll.me
John Carter is actually a good film
Ryder Martinez
Sad thing about that movie is Tatum was actually a good lead but tragically Kunis REALLY didn't want to be there and Redmayne was one of the worst villains in God's history. He had 2 modes, barely audible whispering and SCREAMING LIKE A FUCKING BITCH.
Jeremiah Russell
Yep.
Oliver Price
> Speaking of underrated films cowboys vs aliens was actually pretty fun
> Pandorum. Ooh that was a good one too.
Seconding these.
Matthew Kelly
Pandorum gets a bonus point for a legitimately clever twist
Sebastian Morris
Noah Powell
Bump
Gabriel Brooks
>That scene when they open the blast shields on the ship.
>No stars, absolute darkness.
Fucking terrifying concept
Michael Taylor
>Am I the only one who thinks the John Carter movie is very underrated?
Its a legitimately good movie surprisingly so, marketing and changing the name ruined it so no one saw it.
Robert Ross
Loved John Carter. Was very faithful and the slight changes they made to the story actually made it work better than the original.
Tyler Gomez
Mommy Martian was cute.
Isaiah Lopez
That heat death of the universe existential horror.
Austin Morgan
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Ryan Turner
John Carter had good visuals and a mostly good plot. Valerian had amazing visuals and a mostly terrible plot. It depends on what your values are.
Jackson Jenkins
It's fun to watch Valerian and imagine that they're bro and sis in a world where incest is legal. They're so similar. I don't even have a fetish for that stuff. I'd tell you if I did.
Yeah, I like their chemistry.
Caleb Richardson
This movie has almost nothing going for it.
Aaron Barnes
John Carter books.
Edgar Rice Burroughs only ever wrote one story and switched out the set dressing time and time again for literally his entire life.
But fuck if he didn't come up with some neat set dressing.
Camden Campbell
>The plot for Valerian wasn't a mess
You could cut out entire parts of the movie like the entire sidetrip with Rihanna and absolutely nothing would change.
Luke Harris
>This movie has almost nothing going for it.
Great cast.
Great alien design.
Decent action.
Menacing as fuck rainy scene in the ruins of the riverboat random dropped far from water.
Lincoln Bennett
I watched John Carter, but got distracted halfway. Did anyone else notice Sola was becoming more attractive as the movie went on, or was that just me?