Best scene in any movie ever

She was the weakest part of both of the first Thor movies.
The most successful one was the one where they ignored their clumsily executed romance and she didn't even show.

You're the obvious and oblivious idiot here, user, see

Spider-man holding a train

They just craft a new one

>Lift for anybody
>one guy and one robot, and MAYBE one woman, if they don't bypass the whole thing and just have her be Thor Just Because, because Thor 3 established you don't need the hammer to be the God of Thunder anyway

>maybe

user, they did press conferences announcing it, got Portman to appear in Cons posing with the hammer. You're grasping at straws or being disingenuous, specially with
>because Thor 3 established you don't beed the hammer to be the God of Thunder anyway
It established that the character Thor Odinson didn't need the hammer since he IS the god of thunder regardless.

You cant be this dumb.

It's one of the most fan service scenes in a film ever. Cap does nothing with that hammer, it's not the key to victory or anything like that. All it shows is that Cap is worthy which ultimately doesn't mean much

Again, too many. What the fuck makes Jane so special?

I'm gonna post the guy doing the face

It is absolutely fan service.
But it did serve the plot.

Without Steve wielding the hammer, their fight with Thanos would have ended much sooner, allowing Thanos the opportunity to find the gauntlet before reinforcements could arrive.
Because Steve was worthy, they were successful.

>It established that the character Thor Odinson didn't need the hammer
>What the fuck makes Jane so special?

Maybe they'll explain it, almost like that's the entire goddamn conceit of the movie or something.

Vision lifted it but didn't wield it.

>It's one of the most fan service scenes in a film ever.
The entire goddamn movie is fanservice.
In a genre created entirely for fanservice.

You're complaining that water is wet.

Vision totally wielded it against Ultron.

Ultron was fighting Thor 1v1 inside the church and Vision knocked the fuck out of Ultron with the hammer and then immediately gave it back to Thor.

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>Cap is worthy
I reject the notion that Cap was beneath Thor at any point

>Without Steve wielding the hammer, their fight with Thanos would have ended much sooner, allowing Thanos the opportunity to find the gauntlet before reinforcements could arrive.
Except the writers could have just had the reinforcements arrive sooner. There was nothing preventing them from doing so.

No, he just used it like a regular old hammer. He didn't wield it, he didn't gain the power of Thor. He just used it like a blunt object he could pick up.

Except the writers could have written that Widow didn't die, fucked the Red Skull, had cosmically powered kids, then showed up to save Caps shield, his ass, the universe itself and kick Thanos right in the nuts.
But they didn't.
Reinforcements could have arrived sooner, but not all together. Dr. Strange had to get everyone, let them suit up, get their ships and shit and then coordinate everyone's entrance because Falcon had to do the " on your left" joke. Fuck off with "the writters could have written something else", child.

Given the force behind that swing one could argue it was indeed wielding it. Moreover, merely picking it up counts as wielding it. Don't do the same loophole shit they did for Red Hulk in space

>he didn't wield it because he only use it to hit the bad guy

Yeah, despite not actually needing the power of Thor, we know he possessed it regardless. "Whoever holds this hammer...", the enchantment is that, not "Whoever does some cool shit with the hammer..."

>Except the writers could have written that Widow didn't die, fucked the Red Skull, had cosmically powered kids, then showed up to save Caps shield, his ass, the universe itself and kick Thanos right in the nuts.
That would all have been stupid and would have gone against the established personalities of these characters as well as the rules established in IW regarding the need of a sacrifice to obtain the soul stone. It would have changed the whole story.
>Reinforcements could have arrived sooner, but not all together.
There is absolutely no canonical reason given as to why they couldn't have gotten there 2 minutes earlier, before Cap picked up Mjolnir. Writing it like this would have changed next to nothing.

Except the reasons i just gave you which you ignored.

I will give you more: they even had to find out where the fuck they were going. They didn't know there was a fight happening, the only one that could have known was Dr. Strange from seeing millions of possible futures and knowing events wete unfolding the one way he saw Thanos get beaten.

It absolutely, canonically HAD to happen the way it did, it was the one chain of events out of millions of possible futures which proved successful. You know Dr. Strange arrived at the best possible time because of that single fact. Things happened the only way they could have to ensure Thanos is beaten.

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I dunno, I understand why it's cool and all but the execution felt off. Like Hemsworth didn't explain to Evans how to look cool while using a prop hammer or whatever placeholder they use for it before CGI.

I just hope it's not cancer that makes her special this time because that was hoaky as fuck and borderline exploitative.

>I will give you more: they even had to find out where the fuck they were going. They didn't know there was a fight happening, the only one that could have known was Dr. Strange from seeing millions of possible futures and knowing events wete unfolding the one way he saw Thanos get beaten.
>It absolutely, canonically HAD to happen the way it did, it was the one chain of events out of millions of possible futures which proved successful. You know Dr. Strange arrived at the best possible time because of that single fact.
That's completely retarded. You're equivocating between different types of necessity
If the writers or editors had decided to make it so the scene with Cap and Mjolnir doesn't happen and instead all the reinforcements appear 2 minutes earlier, they could still have written the rest of the story so that Thanos is still defeated. There was absolutely no plot-related reason why they couldn't have written it that way, thus it wasn't necessary from a writing standpoint.
The fact that Strange only saw one scenario in which the Avengers win is irrelevant because it's ultimately the writers who determine what that scenario entails. Nothing about Strange seeing just one scenario means that it was actually necessary, from a story-writing perspective, for Cap to pick up Mjolnir in order to progress the plot.

>Without Steve wielding the hammer, their fight with Thanos would have ended much sooner, allowing Thanos the opportunity to find the gauntlet before reinforcements could arrive.
Bruh that's literally the Z warriors stalling the villain until Goku can show up. It's important for the plot because the movie decided the reinforcements needed time. It's just an excuse to have those guys fight Thanos, which is fine, but I wouldn't call that plot even.

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>If the writers or editors had decided to make it so the scene with Cap and Mjolnir doesn't happen and instead all the reinforcements appear 2 minutes earlier
But why would they, user?

>There was absolutely no plot-related reason why they couldn't have written it that way, thus it wasn't necessary from a writing standpoint.
How else was Cap going to stall Thanos? Put on an Iron Man suit? Youre being ridiculous.
>The fact that Strange only saw one scenario in which the Avengers win is irrelevant because it's ultimately the writers who determine what that scenario entails. Nothing about Strange seeing just one scenario means that it was actually necessary, from a story-writing perspective, for Cap to pick up Mjolnir in order to progress the plot.
It was absolutely necessary, Cap could have never held his own, stalled for their arrival or demonstrated his indomitable spirit even when faced against the most powerful being in the universe and had his faith and tenacity rewarded by the TIMELY arrival of everyone that had been snapped.

From a writing standpoint, there was a reason for it in the plot with the stalling, it further revealed Captain America's characterization and validated his beliefs and on top of all, from a completely metafictional perspective, it was a hell of a lot more entertaining than having everyone show up the instant Hulk did the snap or any point earlier than what was written and shot.

There is ample justification, but you're basically asking why didn't they write it to be less entertaining while missing key plot and character details. You suck. Pack it up, you need to go back.

Nobody likes her, it isn't 2004, she looks like a fucking granny karen now.

Infinity War was made so that Endgame could make 3 Billion dollars

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Fuck Joss Whedon that movie was so awful

ok, but like, we all agree that the backup scene was cringe

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MCU Thor was never Donald Blake, so we never get a good answer to what he likes about Jane besides her looking like Natalie Portman. Maybe she intrinsically has some intrinsic quality that could develop into worthiness if she worked at it, and that's what Thor liked. Surviving a universal genocide (or if you like, dying and coming back) was an ordeal intense enough to develop worthiness.

I hated this movie, but it was nice to see the trinity together

>LE GIRLS SCENE
>after they go through a lot of retarded hoops to kill Natasha When Clint became a batshit crazy serial killer and considered himself beyond redemption already
What the fuck happened? I'd ask if Johansson's post-GitS redpilling kicked in and she pissed some off, but she got another movie so ??????

>Johansson's post-GitS redpilling
Oh no, did she go crazy from all the weebs complaining that they shouldn't have whitewashed the Major?

How did this fuck up so bad?

>From a writing standpoint, there was a reason for it in the plot with the stalling, it further revealed Captain America's characterization and validated his beliefs and on top of all, from a completely metafictional perspective, it was a hell of a lot more entertaining than having everyone show up the instant Hulk did the snap or any point earlier than what was written and shot.
There was a reason for it, yes, and the movie is probably better with the scene included than without it, but that has nothing to do with its plot relevance. The rest of the plot could have happened exactly the same way if this scene wasn't in the movie; all you'd have to do is have the reinforcements arrive 2 minutes sooner, or else have the trio hold their own a tiny bit better, and the rest of the movie plays out just the same,
It's not like, say Loki disappearing with the tesseract, without which there would have been no reason for Tony and Steve to travel to 1970, and thus no reason for Steve to decide to stay in 1970 with Peggy instead of remaining as Captain America.

Yeah. She tried to play a trans man in a movie after that to prove that she can play, and I'm quoting here, "anyone, whether they're black, brown, or a tree." When she got passed up for the role due to the controversy of stealing two minority roles in a row, she went into Trump crazytown. Ike loves her for it so he pushed to make Black Widow happen whether Feige wanted it or not, this is why he was ousted from Marvel proper.

Everything from EG was awful

But then not only would it not have been as entertaining or exciting, but worse, they couldn't realistically recreate that scene from Infinity Gauntlet that everyone expected them to do. Thanos is so much more powerful that even without the stones, he could punch Cap's head into mist.

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Why did he whisper Assemble instead of yelling it loud and proud?

Because it was more dramatic, I guess.

Nobody could hear though. They just heard "AVENGERS...." and then after a moment of silence they just charged

It is truly amazing just how insignificant this turned out when it should have been an iconic moment

>A gihugic flaming moon base?

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