Remember the time Lisa became a fedora atheist?

No, but judging from the daily threads you guys make about how she sucks, it almost feels like you're arguing about an actual feminist instead of a fictional eight year old girl

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Yeah but what happens when said fictional 8 year old girl is the mouthpiece for the feminist beliefs of her writers+voice actor.

this episode doesn't even make sense. Angels from the bible don't have wings.

Since Lisa is written and voiced by aging hippies of course she's got a "spiritual" Beatles-tier Alan Wattsian side, that doesn't make her a Christian.
(Come to think of it, Lisa being a boomer in the body of a little girl makes her basically the Western equivalent of the 1000 year old anime loli vampire trope)

Remember that time Lisa made friends with a man who made multiple attempts on her family's life all because he quoted walt whitman?

I never said she was a Christian. She's more likely to believe the idea that God is real but is totally different from what is in the Christian Bible, than to just believe everything this book written by near-cavemen thousands of years ago says. She'd probably be all for mystical things being real, but she would still believe they can be explained and quantified.

why would angels, which are given bodies for specific purposes by the lord and are not mortal, die and leave fossils?

that fact that Lisa was the only skeptic in town is what's wrong with the episode, you can understand desperate fundies like Ned wanting to believe every crazy thing they see and you can understand the local church going that way too, since it's the one Ned goes to

but nobody else? nobody thought hey, this doesn't chime with scripture at all, what the hell damn guy? that's where the bad writing is in this episode, they made it about a little girl being wrong - and she is wrong, but only because she doesn't have any conception of how crazy the plot is, which is itself reasonable given that she's eight years old

but yeah the two big glaring plot holes are the absence of skepticism among the rest of the town and the failure to notice that the mall being built over the hill is called Heavenly Hills; Lisa isn't wrong to try and make everybody think critically about what the fuck is going on

Nobody who criticizes religion actually knows anything about it anymore.
Unfortunately neither most religious people.

at that point you should be asking yourself why Dave Sim isn't running the world, if he's got all the answers

>Became?
Yes, zoomie. She was originally a Christian who was disturbed that her dad was stealing cable when her moral guide, the Bible, said "Thou shalt not steal".

I get your point but just to clarify, considering most of our current complex political, philosophical and social systems were invented by people who lived centuries before Christ was even born and we are still using them virtually unchanged since about the time of Caesar, I don't think it's unfair to call these people cavemen. Hicks, maybe, uneducated, maybe, rural, definitely, but caveman carries a time-related stigma that feels dishonest. If the Bible is bad, it's not bad because it's old, because certain things we still live by today, like our calendar, are older than that.

>Nobody
>Most
Incorrect. It is in fact fairly common that the reason people become atheists is that they learn so much about multiple religions that they start to see the bullshit overlap and become disgusted with it.

Ironically religion fags are by necessity atheists to a degree because "only my god is the one true god and other gods are fake but I don't need to explain why because reasons".

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ANGELS DON'T HAVE SKELETONS

counterpoint, both sides are wrong and really dumb and don't know anything

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That's the biggest argument that atheists have, and I just think why can't all Gods can't be real? The Romans believed ardently in their own Gods while at the same time believing that all the other tribes' Gods were real as well. If anything that makes blasphemy seem even worse because you're literally jumping ship to the other guy.

Remember that time Lisa got a restraining order on her brother and forced him to live in the wilderness and it acted like it was his fault?
I'm glad to know that I'm wrong to think that was a shitty thing to do.

Says who?

It was really dumb because even most people who believe in angels don't think they have physical bodies which can die and decompose.

Remember when the writers used her a mouthpiece and made her the worst character on the show?

I feel like Seth MacFarlane turned Brian into an irredeemable asshole just because he wanted to avoid turning him into his Lisa Simpson.

Remember when Homer seriously considered voting for the man who tried to kill his own son multiple times?

Even the Bible says there are many gods. firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/01/the-bibles-many-gods
One all-powerful God who is above all the others, yes. And if your definition of god is 'being who created the universe' then there is only one God according to the Bible. But most cultures didn't define 'god' in that way so if by gods you mean superhuman beings, then there are many, some good, some bad.

And here you are, floating above the rest of us.

I’m pretty sure that was a reference to false idols. God acknowledges that humans have concepts of other gods, but he trumps those gods because he’s actually real. That’s the message I got from there.

Remember that time Lisa threw a fit because Bart actually showed talent for Jazz?

This is the single worst thing about boomers
They didn't want to follow their parents' religions but they were still too stupid to avoid all organized religion which led to the proliferation of dangerous cults. It's like a whole generation of people who just knew enough to be dangerous.

My favorite Lisa bit is when they acknowledge her bullshit.
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Judaism was originally a polytheistic religion. YHWH was a part of a pantheon that included other gods from the mesopotamian region and also acknowledged gods of other places. The Jews were their god's chosen people in the same way other gods chose other people.
Over time he was promoted to the on and only capital G God while all others were reduced to Demons false idols or whatever else.

Source?

Almost correct, the YHWH we know is actually a combination of a bunch of Canaanite gods, including Yahweh (war god), Baal (storm god) and El (creator god).

In much of the Bible it really sounds like the other gods spoken of do exist though. Even 'Thou shalt have no other gods before me' seems to imply the existence of other gods and that you should just not elevate them above Yahweh. This should pose no problems for a monotheist though, you just have to remember that whether there is one god or many depends on how you are defining the term 'god'. There being one God the way most Christians define it (the creator and ultimate ruler of the universe), doesn't preclude the existence of multiple gods in the way polytheists and some of the Bible use the term god (powerful superhuman beings).

>Yas Forums is fine with extreme violence and pedophilia
>atheism is a no-no, though

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Who are you quoting?

It's a summary, user.

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r/woosh

Who said that?

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>It's a summary, user.
But who said that? Who are you summarizing?

Books by John Day

Well, yeah but I was only summarizing.

Atheism is cringe af

Hey there's one.

I used to hate obnoxious internet atheists but now thanks to Yas Forums I'm swinging back around to the opposite position

Literally the catholic church.

Sorry for the unsolicited corrections. I'll blame my recent wiki trawling and reading up on Tengri, Yahweh, Dyeus, Zeus, Deus Pater, Jupiter (Dju-Pater), and how they're basically all different expressions of the same sky-father God that mankind seems to universally revere somehow. It's a very fascinating subject. I wonder if there is an evolutionary purpose to worshipping a big bearded dad on a cloud.

Everybody needs a sky daddy.

I hope Redditors collectively see the light and accept Jesus in their hearts. Maybe then Yas Forums contrarians can stop pretending they respect religion.

Seraphim and Cherubim have wings

>polytheistic
Henotheistic

I've gone so deep into atheism that I've actually looped back around to Agnosticism and finding Gods on the other side. Atheists always talk about "how can there be one god when every civilization in the world has one" and to me that's absolutely true, but it doesn't address the question of "why does everyone seem to have a God?" If left to its own devices, does every human civilization make its own deities? What is the purpose of that? Obviously the Bible is just a piece of art and allegory and Yahweh, El, Odin or Horus aren't actually real, but maybe what is real is the way human psychology has evolved over the aeons to need some sort of imaginary supernatural leader, maybe as a functional part of having developed complex social orders and hierarchies.
While it's evident a lot of bad can come from repressive religious morals, sacrosanct religious castes that are shielded from the law (see: Catholic church) and a lot of war and strife is started by religion as well (Crusade, Jihad, etc.), I'm not so sure if it's healthy for a society to rid itself entirely of spirituality or religious notions. A lot of the religious wars in history after all are more about politics than religion, God being easy to invoke by those wishing to wage war. War and God, to me, seem like inevitable parts of human existence, and they can both cause a lot of bad and a lot of good.

Based, tradcath larpers have destroyed any reasonable discussion about atheism or religious matters in general on so many boards.

>If left to its own devices, does every human civilization make its own deities?
No, there was that one South-American tribe that had no concept of gods.

Funnily enough, Christians were accused of being atheists by the Romans because they were monotheistic.

And was proven correct?