>causes a world war
>gets a slap on the wrist with house arrest
Causes a world war
That's pretty consistent in the Avatar universe.
>Azula got out on good behavior about a year after helping to plot a genocide
>Iroh's war crimes/attempted war crimes were completely forgiven and he even got to run a restaurant in the city he tried to raze to the ground
You can't really punish something that cute.
Iroh also is the direct reason the city was saved. It was his burst that even broke the wall. Jeong Jeong, while powerful, didn't show anything like that even with Sozin's comet. Bumi was the only other member of the White Lotus we saw who could've pulled that off, though to be fair, I think do genuinely think he could've.
By that same logic, Kuvira was also the only reason why the earth kingdom was saved. She went undercover and rooted out corruption. Hell, she still got house arrest. If ATLA was as steadfast, Iroh would have still been banished from the Earth Kingdom.
>>Azula got out on good behavior about a year after helping to plot a genocide
eh? why make things up?
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That's what happens in the comics, which are canon according to Bryke. Azula gets let out of prison and helps Zuko find their mom. Then she betrays them of course but still.
>Iroh would have still been banished from the Earth Kingdom.
It's kind of amazing that the people of the Earth Kingdom tolerate him. He was the leading general for decades in a war of conquest against them, it's like if one of Hitler's generals decided to open up a bar in Moscow.
Presumably they don't tolerate him and he's actually just living under the same identity he had when he was living in Ba Sing Se.
Bryke really love rich people
Then she started pulling shenanigans from the shadows where she plots to corrupt Zuko and slowly reshape him in her image.
There's precendence in real life history too.
favoritism for high-born or well-connected people. Zaheer and gets jailed forever.
>causes a world war
She unified a series of scattered provinces I guess you'd describe it? They never really go into detail about the exact makeup of the earth kingdom post queen dying beyond it being a lawless shithole but at the very least nobody really called her unification efforts an outright war so much as her being a tyrant. Most of the world supported her efforts for most of her run and by the time she went full nutjob her only real declaration of "war" was attacking a city state with a big ol robot in an effort to reclaim soil that was earth kingdom until like what sub 50 years ago? 60? I don't really remember.
Don't get me wrong I don't justify anything she did but she only really declared aggression against a single "country". Hardly a world war. Grant you there's only four fucking countries in the entire world so I guess if 2 out 4 go at it might as well be a world war?
the emperor of Japan hasn't been in charge of anything for a millennia. He was a useful tool for Douglas McArthor to control Japan, just like he was a useful tool for Tojo to control Japan.
Reminder that they ordered mothers in the pacific to murder their children, to spare them from the unstoppable savagery of the allies
Kuvira did nothing wrong, the people of Earth Kingdom must be united under one banner
Iroh was a hero, and was directly responsible for saving Ba Sing Se.
I mean by the time of A:TLA the 100 year war is essentially just the Earth Kingdom vs the Fire Nation with the Air Nomads extinct, the Southern Water Tribe sending out like, 2 dozen men, and the Northern Water Tribe staying out of the war until they're personally attacked.
I'm sure that's why the decision to completely absolve him of any responsibility is among the most criticized of the WW2 aftermath, and why Hirohito himself expressed remorse.
That kind of thing happened all the time
Friedrich Paulus got a cozy government job in Dresden after the war.
West if the Iron Curtian there was based Larry and the Operation Paperclip lads.
No sense in letting good talent go to waste.
So they booby trapped them with explosives.
"Unifying" is just victor history talk for "conquering".
I'd say that Garibaldi unified.
That still took a fair bit of conquering. Even when the masses largely wish for unification for one reason or another, the fuckers in charge don't tend to let go of their little pond without sending waves of poor people to their deaths to protect it.
Mercenaries mostly.
You know its so weird to see these threads having never seen korra and probably never will
That's still poor people.
Get a load of this guy
She did literally nothing wrong, Republic City is Earth Empire clay.
And...?
>I'm sure that's why the decision to completely absolve him of any responsibility is among the most criticized of the WW2 aftermath
If America hadn't agreed to let Hirohito off the hook, there was a real chance that Japan would have refused to surrender after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. America would have been faced with two choices:
1. Nuke Japan into oblivion, drop nukes on every rail line/farm, mine the harbors to end fishing until the state broke down and Japan was "bombed back to the stone age" which is what one of our generals, Curtis LeMay, recommended
2. A full-scale ground invasion by US soldiers
Given the mood of the time we almost certainly would have chosen option #1. Letting Hirohito off scot-free literally saved millions, if not tens of millions, of lives. People who criticize our leniency towards Hirohito are fucking idiots. In 1945, 30% of the US population said that they would be willing to accept the total genocide of all Japanese people. We had multiple high-level military officials willing to nuke and/or starve the entire place into oblivion. Not absolving Hirohito would have unironically led to one of the worst genocides in human history.
she didn't get out on good behavior she got out because zuko found her useful
>Operation Paperclip
Completely different, the Nazis were never able to directly attack the US so we were quicker to forgive them. Werner von Braun got a cushy job here in Washington. I doubt he would have received the same treatment if he had tried to retire in one of the English or Dutch cities that were on the receiving end of his rockets.
Napoleon did not cause a world war. He wanted peace. The British were the ones who broke the Treaty of Amiens and continually bankrolled anyone willing to oppose Napoleon's France. If you look at the wars the French Republic/First French Empire actually fought between 1791 and 1815, the vast majority of them were defensive. Napoleon's overly-aggressive fuckups came in 1809 (invasion of Spain) and 1812 (invasion of Russia) roughly a decade after he had attempted to make peace with Britain and they had rejected it because apparently some Italian midget re-establishing a monarchy in France was unacceptable for them.
Hey I understand why they did it from a pragmatic standpoint, I'm just saying he wasn't just Tojo's innocent puppet and that's why people criticize his being largely let off the hook. A plea bargain is always going to look sketchy in terms of justice even when it serves both parties better.
You're right. And he wasn't the only one to get that sweet deal, didn't we also totally let Victor Emmanuel of Italy off the hook for his complicity in Mussolini's regime?
>Kuvira in a field of flower while wearing a frilly yellow sundress and cast iron panties.
Mussolini only did one thing wrong but it was a doozy.
If you mean aligning himself with Germany then you're right. Hitler stole Mussolini's ideology, shit all over it and inserted his bizarre jew obsession, and Mussolini just went along with it. There is definitely an alternate timeline where Mussolini shows some fucking backbone and doesn't side with Germany, and we consider him in the same circle as Churchill/De Gaulle (he was not any more racist than either of those two).
He also invaded Greece and got beaten back. That was a big wrong, right there.
Yup. Bryke are aggressively neoliberal.
It's funny how Korra spends the entire show defending wealthy elites and ignoring the downtrodden. She's the polar opposite of Aang in every way.
Kuvira helped save the Earth Nation. Without her, they would still be in chaos. The only thing she did objectively wrong were the concentration camps, which supposedly were necessary to fund her campaign, as no other nation wanted to help.
Azula escaped, she didn't 'get out'. And Iroh pretty much planned the whole invasion in the end who made it possible to end the war in the first place.
she didn't escape zuko let her out
Yeah, happens a lot maybe you and dingus here should have paid attention in school instead of shoving crayons up your nose.
Aang's inner circle was basically all rich and affluent people but LOK really showed how much Bryke love the bourgeoisie. All the good guys are rich and/or hold some position of power and importance with the exception of Mako and Bolin, and Bolin is probably going to marry into a rich family. It was implied Zaheer's group came from nothing and Kuvira was an orphan ditched by her parents. Gangs, which historically are made up of disenfranchised groups, are all bad guys. Kuvira literally gets away with what she did because her adoptive mother is rich.
>Kuvira was an orphan ditched by her parents
That was a much better implication, I don't know what the fuck Ruins was fucking thinking
They are such poser ass kissing faggots.
Only for Zuko to pull it on her
>Aang's inner circle was basically all rich and affluent people
Sokka & Katara didn't have much wealth. Toph came from a rich family but she didn't care about any of that & she was happy to leave it. Zuko was really the only one with wealth.
Just like Disney movies, Avatar went from being pro-monarchy to pro-capitalism.
its difficult not to really really resent them.
monarchies make for much more interesting television
That's why I said "basically", Katara and Sokka were still the chief's kids and Toph ended up becoming a corrupt cop with rich parents she could ship her kid off to when they broke the law.
>disfigures her sister for trying to arrest her after committing several robberies
>disgraces her mother who corrupts justice to get her off scott-free after resisting arrest and assaulting an officer
>uses her rich family inheritance to fuck around the world without a care and commit more crimes such as piracy before purchasing land for a super-advanced technodome closed off from the rest of the decrepit bandit-riddled Earth Kingdom and the tyranny of the Queen
>rules her city as an unelected "Clan Matriarch" aided by a single "truth seer" with unquestionable authority and the ability to chose who is and isn't guilty, this guy ends up being a terrorist
>harbors a war mongering fugitive who attempted to kidnap the President of Republic City because he gives her money and develops new technology
>after shitting on the Queen, is suddenly fully in support of Absolute Monarchy when the new prospective Earth King appears to be an underage idiot willing to let his advisers (such as herself) make all the decisions for him
>uses a ceasefire negotiated by the Avatar as an opportunity to assassinate her "adopted daughter" in cold blood while she is sleeping
>her son, who developed the spirit canon super-weapon for Kuvira and supported her every step of the way, gets less than a slap on the wrist because he is her son
>this is "the good guy"
Well she did literally nothing wrong so she shouldn't even get that
In most cases it's more simply
>status quo=good
>change=bad
and that predates Disney by a pretty long time.
He challenged the fundamentals of the system and so did Kuvira and of course that makes them evil to Centrists.
And thats a bad thing Why?
>uses a ceasefire negotiated by the Avatar as an opportunity to assassinate her "adopted daughter" in cold blood while she is sleeping
How little shit Korra gave her for that was egregious.
Just saying reframing something under the positive, decidedly peacemongering term of "unifying" doesn't mean it's non-violent or desired by the people.
Kuvira took the backwater shambles of a fallen Monarchy and turned it into an industrialized unified nation again. Dont forget that was her task assigned to her all along, the trouble cam when she refused to hand the reigns over to a bumbling prick of a pompous noble.
You may not like it, but Amon personally was my favorite villain of Korra and he was mostly right. On average benders are superior to non-benders, only a few non-benders are close to their level either through being in peak physical ability or wealth, and only with technological advancement can non-benders actually fight back and get equal rights to get them to go away.
Fuck him not being an energybender though.