Well, batfags?

There might be the same amount of killers, but they'll be a drastic drop in victims if you kill a serial killer/mass murderer. Isn't that the most important thing?

Ok

But what if Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer ?

>And vigilante style justice used to be widespread in America and absolutely DID keep crime rates down.
They didn't, criminals factions used it to paint themselves as the vigilantes themselves, that's basic ass criminal tactic, criminals executing petty thiefs, murders and murdering rivals to look like the good guys. Making the population believe they are necessary.

This. And what retard doesn't understand the moral difference in 1. Shooting a guy who murders children and 2. murdering children? If you can't understand that those two actions are not the same, then you're a morally bankrupt person.

Show some respect, you are talking about an actual human, and not a lizard man in a human suit.

So...black rapists in the South pretended to be vigilantes to lynch black rapists? Leo Frank lynched himself after raping a young girl, after disguising himself as a white lynch mob? Good point.

If one killer kills 100 killers the killers in the world drops.

No because you are inspiring more killings, people killing their cheating wives, people killing their rude friends, people killing "invaders". You are producing more killers, more terrorists, more serial killers.

Um...cheating wives and invaders literally deserve to be killed. A vigilante taking out the trash isn't the same as a faggot like Dahmer raping and murdering people, or some Muslim retard attacking British schoolgirls.

>And vigilante style justice used to be widespread in America and absolutely DID keep crime rates down.
t. Miller
No seriously do you actually belive that?

This math never made sense, that kind of retarded shit can only be found in a Batman comic.

>mostly poor fuckers without a choice
Here comes the criminologist of the year, talking about mobsters while ignoring the fact that they have an anarchy and those "poor fuckers" are mostly related to each other by blood or marriage.

How many times has it been now, that you posted this exact same image?

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Are you jewish?

But he's talking about Ted Cruz.

In his defence, I was blaming the brain worm that is controlling the real human and not lizard body.

No, what does that have to do with the question?

>vigilante violence never solved crime

Batman is a vigilante too, you fucking retard.
The only difference is that Frank finishes the job.

Ironically, Jews are normally the ones to answer a question with another question lmao.

That would be an argument if Punisher killed a realistic amount of people. According to Marvel, Frank has canonically killed upwards of 60,000 people in a career that's maybe spanned 10 years. Just to break that down, Frank Castle would be responsible for approximately half the gun homicides in the USA per year. Frank Castle would be a statistically significant cause of death in the USA. Non-Frank Castle homicides would make up 5% of Marvel NYC's homicide rate. On average Frank Castle kills 16 people per day.

Batman is bad as well, but the difference is that he avoid killings and makes pretty clear he's against it. His influence is less dangerous even though it will still cause damage.

Batman is bad as well, the difference is that Bruce makes it clear he's against killing and guns making his influence drastically less lethal than Punisher;

This. Batman has over a decade of training, billions of dollars, and is friends with Superman, but fails to do his job EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. Frank has basic training, Recon training, is pushing 75 years old, and has a bunch of guns, knives, and money he steals from scumbags he kills. And he's far, far more effective than Batman.

Initially letting the Joker poison the water supply, nerve gas parades, and rape and cripple Batgirl is more destructive than making sure scumbags stop commiting crimes.

Why doesnt punisher rape people?

>initially
Intentionally

Because he isn't the Joker.

Why doesnt he rape the joker then?

Not if you do it more than once, Bruce. Thought you were supposed to be a genius.

Basic logic is too much to expect from comic book writers.

Because Frank isn't a sexual deviant. Batman might be though.

If you kill a killer the number of killers is the same

Say there are
1000 killers. you kill one there are now 999 + you
Batman was right

If he was he'd fuck me wheelchairbound every night.

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what if you kill two?

>Because Frank isn't a sexual deviant.
he's always looking for suspects though

Wolverine story isn't canon.

Not in real life and not in universe, if you only kill the Joker and never try to be a vigilante then you will cause no damage in the long run, but if Punisher or Batman keep "solving problems" through murder then you will get faggots murdering people to fit their subjective and many times twisted sense of justice.

Bruce let literal children fight his own war and at some point there has been civilian movements fighting crime while bearing his name or Robin's.

Frank never let anyone live his life, and stopped every single one of his copycats when he met them.
Frank Castle has more respect for human life and the innocence of child than Bruce ever will, probably because the first is a father while the latter is still the same autistic rich kid he was before the alley happened.

>Frank is not a sexual deviant
canonically he is

Just kill the leader dammit.

Punisher murdered villains working for the goverment and trying to turn their life around, Punisher an autist with the mind of an edgy teenager, no he's even more retarded than a teenager, he's inspiring irrational extremely dangerous and unclear vigilantism, Punisher got no respect for human life, Punisher is straight up making the world worse, fucking up society efforts to redeem criminals and inspiring terrorists. He's not even an anti hero, he's a straight up villain.

Such a line of "argouments" i would only expect from a Batfag.
It is like they gave you manuals about how to sperg out.

You're kidding right? Prior to the 20th century, basically EVERY literary hero killed their enemies without thinking twice about it. It wasn't seen as "dark and edgy", it just reflected the nature of combat. Robin Hood isn't particularly edgy, but he wasn't shooting boxing glove arrows. The three musketeers killed people (real musketeers would kill EACH OTHER in duels out of boredom). The Shadow killed his enemies (or tricked them into killing themselves). The Spider killed THOUSANDS of people. Why is suddenly "edgy" for the Punisher to do it? It just makes more sense. If you watched your family be slaughtered, which is more realistic? Shooting criminals, or running around with scantily clad children and throwing blunt boomerangs at them?

>dude old ass stories so that's okay
And Hercules who was considered a hero slaughtered an entire city of innocents to punish a king.
>musketeers
goverment officials
>Robin Hood
loyal to the rightful goverment head

cause of death: frank castling

The most damning argument against Frank Castle is that he's killed thousands of people with zero impact to show for it.

And the Punisher is loyal to his family's memory. Which is much more respectable than some faggot who dresses up as a bat and thinks that "avenging his parents" means mollycoddling rapists and mass murderers.

Because Marvel won't change their world's status quo for more than a year. If Frank existed in real life and somehow escaped imprisonment or death into his 70s, and killed thousands of criminals, there would definitely be real world changes.

If Frank existed in real life he would have been capped or arrested pretty quickly after he started his war.

Most likely, yes. But you were playing what if. If Batman and Punisher both existed, criminals would view Batman as a fucking joke.

Was this edited from a more popular version? The bottom text is one degree away from a shitpost.

You're also playing what if, but also demanding that Frank be given special exceptions from reality. And why would criminals view Batman as a joke? He's operating without regards to civil rights and has no qualms against excessive violence and torture.