Who are characters with powersets that could defeat, kill, or completely counter Steven without being planet killers or reality warpers? Yes, even Yas Forums suggestions are fine.
Who are characters with powersets that could defeat, kill...
Liam Flores
Hunter Brooks
The Warner siblings and Bugs bunny
William Scott
>mindrape him into catatonia
>force crush
>force choke
>snap his neck
>burn him alive with pyrokinesis
The list is endless.
Also literally every character in all of fiction with magic/intelligence/speed/stealth/a sniper rifle/a regular rifle/the ability to breathe in space/pocket sand/a height above 6”
Jeremiah Green
Bayonetta obviously.
Jaxson Cook
*talkunojitzu into becoming Anakin wounds fixed and all.*
Ayden Barnes
Pretty sure cannon Darth Vader would be destroyed by Steven. Legends Darth could probably do the job, but end of Future Steven could win fairly easily. His strength was superior to that of a creature that just by forming would destroy earth, his tantrums knocked down three of the most powerful creatures in galaxy, is far faster than Vader if you scale him to Lapis Lazuli, and to top it all off has minor technokenisis which seems like a terrible match up for a man living in a giant iron lung.
Carter Howard
that was Kaiju Steven, I doubt normally Steven could wrestle with the Cluster, and the reason why the Cluster would destroy the Earth wasn't because it was just that strong it's because as Peridot said
>When it forms it will be much, much bigger than the Earth.
Star Wars fights like this is stupid because it always comes down to how people interpret how they think a character would interact with being Force Gripped.
Daniel Moore
Any character with sufficient mind control/illusion creation powers.
Ryan Barnes
Angel Perez
James Gonzalez
Seems like any decent sniper that knows where his gem is located and can surprise him could take him out. Might need special bullets but it's hard to tell given how easily other gems break.
Ian Lopez
Except Canon Vader>EU Vader in strength, as of 2020.
Literally nothing in Steven's arsenal defends him from a Sith with faster than light movements + reactions snapping his neck/crushing his heart/incinerating him with a gesture
Julian Wilson
But what about his shields/bubbles?
Brody King
>defends him from a Sith with faster than light movements
lol
any sensible person knows Vader isn't "faster than light" that is absolutely retarded no matter what stupid comic you may be referring to. this comment pretty much exemplifies what I hate about these discussions now we will be hearing how Steven's a planet buster for years to come fucking terrific
Charles Sanchez
i don't give a fuck about rules but i will say the most powerful being ever.
Ben 10.
Why?
>Alien X
Brody Myers
Oh come on now, thats not even fair!
Gabriel Hughes
>no matter what stupid comic you may be referring to
>even if it's real, it doesn't count because I deem it
to be stupid, thereby nullifying its canonicity
You need to go back
Dylan Morgan
He's not walking around bubbled - just catch him by surprise when he lest suspects it.
Luis Ortiz
Could Steven talkfu Karl?
Leo Jones
Dom is the perennial Steven hard counter both on principle and in terms of powerset
Jacob Sullivan
>pyrokinesis
When the fuck did Vader get pyrokinesis? Isn't he OP enough before that?
Anthony Thompson
Op said no planet busters.
Jayden Miller
In EU he could only use it as a kid, and that was a one time thing. In Nu-canon he uses it in Target Vader just to look flashy when he kills people
Kevin Gomez
it does because if you have any sense of the fights we've seen up to that point especially in the media that matters the most, the movies, and what "light speed" even means than you'd know how stupid it is for the setting. you're probably misunderstanding the comic you're thinking of anyways no sensible writer would intentionally write that in. Vader's impressive enough without this anime "He's faster than light!" faggotry I think these discussions are better with a more sensible understanding of the characters and not just dragging up the most obscure ridiculous feat and twisting it into meaning the character is actually 900000x million more powerful than all his other appearances for the sake of your preferred character looking badass
Thomas Perry
Could Karl talkfu Steven?
That's the better question.
Aiden Torres
It doesn't matter how "stupid" it is for the setting or what you think represents the tone of the series best, canon feats are canon feats. If he's literally been stated as being super relativistic in both EU & canon, which he has, then that's just fact. grass is green & the sky is blue, even if you think they would look better purple & orange
Benjamin Campbell
Her ship is a planet-buster, this is just assuming she has the power armor
Ryder Bennett
Well as for the Darth Vader thing "faster than light" movement isn't too impressive cause Lapis Lazuli can fly to Homeworld in a fairly short time frame making her at least faster than light . Second as for the feats I stated being corrupted Steven feats we can still scale Steven to the diamonds who probably wouldn't even be effected by Darth Vaders' force like I'm not a Star Wars master by any means, but I presume cannon Vader's force has a limit, and it wouldn't be stronger than the time Blue Diamond had her gigantic ship crash on her and then walk it off like it was nothing. Also incineration and pyrokinesis would be useless against Steven since he has a shield, and heat resistance comparable if not superior to that of a Bismuth.
Thomas Collins
It's all for the sake of who you want to win to win and not for an actual discussion about the character and his actual strengths. Obviously Vader isn't that fast, notably you won't even post the comic. As for Steven vs Vader I actually do think Vader would just crush his body because TK hax and that'd be that.
Ayden Parker
So does the force just bypass durability?
Christian Rogers
No Lapis isn't normally that fast, perhaps her travel speed is that fast as a very intentional unique design of the Lapis gem so they can reach other worlds to terraform them but in active combat? Jasper and Bismuth caught her and we see her get tagged by other Lapis waterbending. No one else in the setting has shown anything like this. Steven is durable but don't think you can say he is normal Diamond-tier considering he's still flesh, we see him get hurt by slamming his head against a column which is nowhere near having a Arm Ship fall on you.
Jordan Nguyen
Wouldn't that just be a non sequitur like we don't say Goku has normal human durability cause he was hurt by a rock when he was caught off guard. Steven before he even unlocked pink Steven has shown durability far beyond that off normal flesh and bones like having a diamond stomp him into the ground. Also almost forgot Steven has healing factor so even without diamond level durability he would still be extremely difficult to put down.
Leo Richardson
Anyone with intangibility, sonic weaponry or energy absorbing powers should be simple enough to beat Steven.
Ghosts and Spirits should be able to fuck him up as well.
Someone stealthy could get the drop on him.
I don't know how his shields and forcefields do with heat, maybe a sufficiently powerful pyrokinetic could just fry him.
Gems are light based so some sort of light manipulator with some tech might be able to mess with his powers, same with gas based weaponry as long as they can get the gas close to him before he makes a big bubble to protect himself or contain the gas.
Luis Cox
Pink Steven is presumably very resistant to heat based attacks since he tried to force red hot steel with his bare hands, is superior to quart soldiers who have fire based abilities, and should be more powerful than Bismuth and Garnet who can naturally swim in lava. Even before he got his Pink form he did travel to the mantle of the earth.
Jackson Collins
Mamoru Amami is literally just Steven but better so him.
Jeremiah Lee
I also forgot Steven could still scale to light speed if we look at the fact Pink Steven (not Future but end of Steven Universe) could react to and block point blank beams from White Diamond.
Adrian Wood
Don't let this distract you, brothers. Steven is a playa.
Colton Scott
I thought this thread was gonna be funny and full of references. Turns out it's just shit
Connor Russell
Isn't that furry thing a dude?
Lucas Jones
If he can catch him unawares, sure.
Brayden Turner
Not everyone wants to make an entire memefest about ‘who could defeat x’. The detailed question in OP should have cued you in.
Camden Gonzalez
You never know until you find out for sure!
Dylan Morales
We've had several threads talking about this but several characters who revolve around the art of speech and convincing like Steven do it far better then him and could probably manipulate him easily.
Chase Murphy
Gas leak
The silent killer.
Cameron Davis
Even Luke convinced him to abandon the dark side. He wouldn't stand a chance against Steven's talkjutsu.
Evan Cook
If the kid can convince three space hitlers who have been set in their ways for at least 6000 years then Vader shouldn't even be a problem.
Liam Fisher
Alexander Gomez
This guy, he has a stronger talkjutsu than Steven
Logan Edwards
Cameron Nelson
*is too dumb to be talk-no-jutsu'd*
>GOMU GOMU NOOOOOO
>WAIT NO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP FIGHTING! LISTEN TO ME
>BAZOOKA!
>Steven is last seen flying off into the distance, isn't seen again until his cover page arc
Austin Russell
Anyone who can absorb energy.
Leo Davis
>Hey energy absorber, you should stop!
>Hmmmmm...I guess you raise a point Steven
Try again.
David Nelson
“I’m a christian now!.”
Kevin Sanders
that only happened because Steven was related to those space hitlers, just like how only Luke could save Vader. Nothing Steven would say would even register to Vader, Steven isn't infallible look at Jasper or Aquamarine they completely stonewalled him and the other gems that he did convince were all emotionally starved waiting for an outlet to establish themselves as an individual.
Asher Gomez
Murdercock Junior needs more waifus.
Hudson Thompson
Anyone from Harry Potter could do it if they aren't completely retarded and don't try throwing stupid spells at him like the ones that make people tap dance or vomit slugs.
Hudson Carter
Steven would kick her ass as well as Hate’s. He’s too durable and with too much utility.
Tyler Thompson
Steven is basically Bartolomeo, but way stronger and is comparable to the Diamonds who I'm pretty sure would beat the yonko so I don't think Luffy could beat him. Also him and Steven could totally become friends so he could be talk no justus'd.
Oliver Carter
>WAGHHHHHH I HATE MY WONDERFUL LIFE FULL OF MAGIC AND HOT ALIEN WOMEN THIRSTY FOR ME I WISH I WAS BORING AND NORMAL
I want to bash this kids head like you wouldnt believe
Gavin Russell
SUF Steven version
>STOP FIGHTING?!?!?!
>Steven sent a bubble against his head and make it expand from inside
Luis Lewis
>Harry Potter characters
Lmao
You don't seriously think that do you? Maybe one of the villains but every 'hero' in Harry Potter is fairly worthless in terms of both attack, defense and weakness to talk-no-jutsu.
And thats being nice and acting on the idea that magic can get through Steven's barrier.
If we go on the idea of magic being incapable of getting through his barriers, then nothing in the HP universe can hold a candle to Steven.
Easton Martin
>gave in to the dark side because he wanted the power to protect his loved ones, is not truly evil but just scared with loads of emotional issues
Steven would have him crying, joining him and singing about love in 1 minute top.
Bentley Lewis
>Except Canon Vader>EU Vader in strength, as of 2020.
Oh god, what happened?
Christian Johnson
>Luffy's head starts swelling from the bubble inside it
>HAHA THATS NOT GONNA WORK ON A RUBBER MAN
>Luffy pulls back his head several yards
>NANI? GARNET HELP!
>GOMU GOMU NO
>WAAAAAH PEARL SAVE ME!
>GIGANTE BELL!
>Luffy's oversized head crashes into Steven, sending him flying once more