So is it true that the X-men were a ripoff of the Doom Patrol?

So is it true that the X-men were a ripoff of the Doom Patrol?

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no

Yes

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maybe, doom patrol predates x-men and marvel and dc are well known to crib on each other. not sure anyone's ever come out and admitted it

Doom Patrol first appeared in My Greatest Adventure #80 (June 1963)

X-Men first appeared in The X-Men #1 (September 1963)

If it was a rip off, it was done well in a very limited time.

Claremont made the X-Men great before Grant Morrison made Doom Patrol great.

Comic trooooopes

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Honestly I could see it being similar inspiration from similar inputs but it's an interesting discussion nonetheless

They're both based on the Fantastic Four.

You could say that every superhero team is based off of the fantastic 4

Yes, they are.

No, the similarities are just a coincidence. They were created almost exactly at the same time.

Fantastic 4 is a Challengers of the Unknown clone.

Yeah, but DP in particular took a ridiculous amount of inspiration. You got your tanky dehumanized galoot. You got your weirdly calm mad scientist with a resting bitch face. Cocky flyboy who feuds with previously mentioned galoot. And the bombshell team mom who keeps these three bozos in line. The biggest difference is Rita was a lot more aggressive and competent than 60's Sue was allowed to be.

Their similarities are way too unique to be a coincidence.

Actually, they are, because a youtube reviewer that I'm sure knows more about comics than you tell me so.

yea Vince Colleta, while working at DC had a bad habit of sharing details with his buddies over at Marvel, he told his pals about Doom Patrol way before it hit comic shelves

This, there is no way the fact both are about an institution owned by old cripples to protect and help freaks while fighting against another freak organization called the "brotherhood" created to take over mankind is just a coincidence.

Two separate comics about bratty kids named Dennis the Menace was created at basically the same fucking time in two different countries too.
Coincidences happen.

Fantastic Four was made in response to the Justice League, which wasn't anywhere close to being DC's first superhero team

The brotherhood of evil mutants didn't debut until X-Men #4.

no one cares enough to fact check dennis the mennis so that could be made up and doesn't count

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_the_Menace
>Dennis the Menace (UK comics) is the original title of a British comic strip which first appeared in "The Beano" on March 12, 1951 (in the edition cover dated March 17, 1951); it is now published as Dennis the Menace and Gnasher.
>Dennis the Menace (U.S. comics), a daily US syndicated newspaper comic strip since March 12, 1951

Doom Patrol came first,but they are different enough IMO.

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It has to be a coincidence. That's too small a window in a time when comics took longer to make it to print, plus there was no way of knowing from two to three stories if Doom Patrol was a hit and worth ripping off.

And the Fantastic Four is based on Challengers of the unknown.

I still aint gonna bother, couldn't be paid to care about dennis the mennis

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unless some guy from DC blabbed to some guy at Marvel and Marvel knew about it way before it hit comic shelves, and it just so happens that there was a guy who was known to do exactly that

This

If that were true I don't think it would have taken a decade for the team girl to become useful.

Early Doom Patrol played Rita as the muscle so much you'd wonder why they needed Cliff.

of course not, only a noob would say that. Both were modeled after FF

It was shown numerous times that X-Men as a concept existed already in the 50s at marvel. The fear and loathed mutants helping humankind, but being shunned by them was going on long before x-men
Amazing Fantasy #15 (the issue before Spider-Man) has even a story that features canonical X-Men characters, a story about mutant prejudice

/thread
thank you sir

the only similarities are wheelchair dude and brotherhood of evil. everything else is different

>not sure anyone's ever come out and admitted it
Statlin openly admits Thanos is intentionally based on Darkseid, even quotes a conversation where he was told to rip off Darkseid instead of Metron

Jean really did only become useful when feminist Chris Claremont took over.

>unless some guy from DC blabbed to some guy at Marvel and Marvel knew about it way before it hit comic shelves, and it just so happens that there was a guy who was known to do exactly that
it happened that.
The 2 creators were roommates

And what were the Challengers based off of? Or are they the first?

jesus fucking christ, how are there still people who doubt?

both are teams of super powered freaks, misunderstood by the populace they fight to protect, y'know the single most significant thing about both series
it's like you don't even read comics

well that's mostly cuz Stan Lee has zero interest in useful females, Jean had the powers to be a powerhouse from day one but Stan don't do dat

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mutants are born freaks, doom patrol are victims of unfortunate accidents, dp is more like disabled people. unlike the x-men, the populace doesn't hate dp, they are ignored.

>it's like you don't even read comics
hi Yas Forumsmblr. every single time you prove you don't know what are you talking about. you are such an annoying twats. you repeat the popular opinions written on wikipedia like parrots with literally little thought by yourself. did you even read the silver age doom patrol faggot?

what is your problem faggot? get coronavirus and die

>getting this mad for getting called out
you would think you'd be used to it since I'm sure it happens in most of the threads you visit

>parroting this kind of normie bullshit

What a fucking retard.

>getting this mad over a picture
whew lad

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>just believe me dude

I wonder why bangladesh shills are all like that.

most well none and commonly accepted likelihood on Yas Forums to the point that anyone who disagrees is laughed at in threads

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you spend too much time on Yas Forums if you think you can "recognize" anons judged on the posts. what is even more annoying is that you bring literally nothing of value to the discussion, but you think you can claim the higher ground. get fucked pleb, you know nothing about comics

I hope your cat dies a painful death

where the only similarity is a crippled dude?
Oh gee what a blatant rip-off!
There is a reason the X-Men will always be more popular and no false accusation will change that DC friend :D

You don't spend enough time on Yas Forums if you think any interests board has more than 20 regular posters, with maybe a group of 50 of people that come for generals or other specific threads.

Sorry ESL retard, i won't even try to decrypt what you are trying to say. I'm sure you are butthurt, but really, who cares what a normie like you thinks.

what does it have to do with the topic at hand? you really think that x-men is a rip-off of DP? how retarded is that? Cliff looks like the Thing, Negative Man is like Human Torch, and Rita has the Mr Fantastic feel. Sure, the wheelchair leader IS indeed the common link, but it's a stretch to say that the two are alike. The X-Men weren't even hated at first, it came around issue #8 with the Unus. DP on the other hand were "hated" on the cover art, but never in-story. And like FF, DP is more of a family that stays together because they have nowhere else to go.
X-Men are a school of young, inexperienced kids, coming of age, who try to learn about themselves and reach the full potential, DP is about broken people who have disabilities and try to make something out of themselves. How the fuck are they alike?

Again, the only suspicious similarity which was never explained is the wheelchair leader, and both having enemies called Brotherhood. But in X-Men case, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants is never called as such in-story, the title comes from the title of the issue #4, the headline of the newspaper that Human Torch reads, but Magneto's group never call themselves as that.

As to why such coincidences happened? In the 60s you had plenty of corny names, you had Masters of Evil, Alliance of Evil, and so on, so I wouldn't rule out that they just came with another generic "Group of Evil"

>I just cant handle the idea that anyone would suspect my favorite company marvel of having ever stolen a concept

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Insults =/= winning arguments
Well insults and weird cat related fantasies

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apply that argument to yourself

Ain't no one got time for your book report son

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I'm sure you think using avatars will somehow help your dumb crusade, cuck.

Literally "I'm rubber you're glue" leave that shit in elementary and try a little harder

Then you can go back to your steven universe thread faggot. Nobody will miss you

>my only argoument is things i pulled out of my ass

Sorry, i know that it is impossible to argue with people on the spectrum like you.

It helps making u mad

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You first. So far it seems like you only exist to waste everyone's time. Also stop breathing, you are ruining the air around you