Adventure Time 10th Anniversary

How did this end?
did they fuck?
t. outgrew the show

Finn gets cucked and Marcie becomes a lesbian with bubblegum

oh no no no

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Easily the most surreal ending to a show possibly ever.
There is no chance in hell anyone predicted this outcome by the end of season 1

>Story is told by BMO in the future to Jake's descendant super great granddaughter and some cat thing who might be another Finn reincarnation
>There is a war between Princess Bubblegum and her "Uncle" who she created as part of her attempt waaay back in the day to make a family but they all tried to betray her so she tricked them into getting hit with retard juice they were planning to use on her
>Uncle Gumbald isn't really so different from PB aside from being more ambitious. He is able to advance as far if not further than PB's civilization in a few months as he is willing to use modern day stuff. Despite his methods he does genuinely think what he is doing is the right thing
>In the background of this, Simon's girlfriend Betty is enacting a plot to save him that involves GOLB who is AT's super lovecraftian evil entity thing
>War breaks out and thanks to some dream potion Finn got in another episode, PB and Gumbald are able to experience each other's views and how they aren't so different.
>As the war is kicking off, Betty's magic shenanigans leads to GOLB and lovecraftian horrors showing up and start killing everything. Everyone has to work together to slow em down while Betty fixes it
>They slow it down by singing, Betty gets into it and uses Ice King's crown to wish things back to normal and make Ice King back into Simon.
>Finn basically gets sidelined for the majority of all this
>Marceline and PB kiss because shipping
>Despite building up the idea of connecting with Gumbald or Gumbald possibly having a hero moment...NOPE instead the aunt (another of PB's traitorous family) hits him with the retard juice and turns him back into punch bowl going "lol nah he wouldn't have learned." PB, for some fucking reason is totally okay keeping the aunt around even though she has demonstrated to be as treacherous if not more so. It is really dumb
>Gunther becomes the new Ice King / Ice Thing when making his own wish on the remnants of the crown / vacant crown.

Then there is a montage bit of what everyone else is up to including some humans from the human islands coming to Ooo and such. They don't really do much with the Finn x HW stuff even there aside from her assisting in the war.

John DiMaggio’s a working VA and probably super busy but I’m sure Jeremy Shada is doing literally nothing else now

The sing along was gonna screen in Fathom Events theaters too before the virus really got serious, it would've been...interesting to say the least youtu.be/x0EMsD3G8RA

It was originally going to be in theaters before Corona-chan canceled it.

John is likely busy since he’s always been in demand, but he could probably spare one evening to celebrate one of his more famous roles. You know he’d make time for a big Futurama event

>did they fuck
I wish

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I can’t tell if we’re in the worst reality for that plan, or the best reality for it being canceled

I would have paid a lot of money to see tumblr sing a long to that crappy music irl holy shit. Missed opportunity

I find Adventure Time to be just such a strange show in terms of the direction it was going for across its lifetime and the relationship it had with its audience as it changed. Like first it was just some fun, irreverent lighthearted adventure show and was hugely popular, then it gradually tried to take what was an inherently silly premise seriously and present "real" character development and interaction which seemed to resonate with some of the fanbase but not all of it, then it just went up its own ass and became really pretentious and awkward, losing most of its fans in the process, and then for the last few seasons it got more and more story driven and actually kind of interesting (including the mini-seasons or whatever they were called), but by then everybody had stopped caring for the show and ultimately concluded with some rushed ending that didn't really leave anyone happy and killed any remaining good will towards the show. I wonder how the show would have turned out if it always was just a kind of "goofy adventure of the week" show it started as, would it have lasted as long? Would it have been killed early and be more fondly remembered? It went from a huge phenomenon to something literally nobody talks about anymore, in comparison to the small horses show, that seems to have remained fairly consistent (I'm sure there will have been some plotlines that upset people that they will say "ruined the show") but it still seems to have a somewhat active fanbase that looks back fondly over it if the board we aren't allowed to talk about is anything to go by.

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>Powerpuff Girls
>Ben 10
>Adventure Time
At their peak popularity, which was the biggest?

Adventure Time.

PPG and Ben 10 never gained the same merchandisable audience. It’s arguable that Adventure Time is CN’s most profitable franchise

That’s the result of constantly switching show runners. Penn Ward isn’t the best or even the most consistent show runner, but he had a clear vision for the show. Everyone else wanted it to be more than what it always should have been.
I think if it stayed light and silly, it might still be on air today.
Wacky adventures in a wacky world is an endlessly milkable set up

>PPG
>Not merchandised the fuck out

what the fuck

>ben10 has made 6+billion in retail
>>not merchandised
user pls

huh so think we will see a sneak peak from the HBO show

I wonder why he left it in the hands of people who just clearly had totally different ideas for what the show should be. It's not even like they tried and failed to carry the torch after he left, they just steered hard into their direction as seen as they took over. It's such a shame too, as much as I kind of like the later seasons, I would have loved to have seen a lot more "goofy adventure of the week", there hasn't really been a show that has filled the same niche since even as early as season 2 ended.

Where? I’ve never seen a ben 10 products, but I see adventure time everything everywhere

Without personally knowing the man, but observing him, it think he just couldn’t handle the pressure. Adventure Time blew up extremely quickly and he was almost instantly out in the limelight as a premier show runner. That’s begins a lot of stress not everyone can manage. Leaving and doing the smaller Bravest Warriors was probably necessary for his health

its mostly a toy franchise, so probably stuff like toys r us(rip) and other toy places that I dont know the name of

2 b fair cable and satellite is dead and not a lot of households have them so this is probably a good move for them, plus it's free to watch.

I get why he left, just not why he handed the reins over to people who wanted to take it in such different directions.

What got interesting besides islands? Elements was asspull lore that didn’t even contribute much to the princesses and only propped up PB more and she didn’t even use her powers all that often. Her getting shit and not Finn in a D&D world is so god damn strange I have to chalk it up to the writers being retarded about Finn’s maturity and growth as a person.

Fern was kinda cool but eh. Patience was boring and so was PB’s extended family out of nowhere (ESPECIALLY Neddy.) Yeah they showed GOLB a couple times but he felt so forced into it with that train wreck finale.

>I wonder how the show would have turned out if it always was just a kind of "goofy adventure of the week" show it started as, would it have lasted as long
PPG, Billy and Mandy and EEnE lasted long too. Of course it would have had a long lifespan if it stayed “goofy adventure of the week” just not a 10 year lifespan. What kind of question is this? Deep lorefags need to get their heads out of their asses.

It wasn’t technically this show once Frederator bought it. Hell, it wasn’t even their show after CN bought. So penn was twice removed from any sort of ownership

I think what you outlined was enough to justify the last few seasons existence, even if the all of the conclusions to any of its threads were just garbage. I liked the idea of Fern having some continuing identity crisis, being killed by Finn and returning as the green knight, I like the idea of Gumbald being some antagonist to the candy kingdom and trying to get revenge on PB, the building up to the war and trying to avert it, I like the idea of the elementals existing (to an extent) and going out of control across the island and I like pretty much everything that went on in Islands. I just wish that the writers would have actually focussed on making any of them pay off instead of doing whatever they were trying to go for, since they are all cool ideas.

There are plenty of shows that are "goofy adventure of the week" format shows that have lasted just 2-3 seasons, there are others that lasted way longer, I'm wondering whether Adventure Time would have had the enduring appeal the longer lasting shows did. I'm not saying "goofy adventure of the week" is inherently bad or that "story driven over a season or so" is good, so stop being weirdly defensive over it, I like the last 2-3 season of AT just for how they felt like they were developing but I vastly prefer the first season as just some irreverant fun show of exploring crazy ideas.

hes dead

I wouldn't say the shift was that sudden. Unlike other shows like Spongebob when there's a clear-cut turning point, Adventure Time's descent was more gradual and spaced out. People attribute Pen Ward's departure from the show during season 5 as this watershed, but I would assert the transition started as early as late season 2. Pen himself never really felt like he had the leadership skills to enforce his original vision of the series, and he essentially bequeathed a blank check on each of the storyboarders to fulfill their heart's desire. Rebecca Sugar touches on this a bit on the CTN Expo 2016 animators' panel, and frankly, I think she's to blame for the series' tonal upheaval. Her work on Adventure Time was so popular that it generated a fanbase within a fanbase, consisting of personal disciples who only watched the show for her episodes, and it doesn't help that some of AT's most critically acclaimed episodes (like I Remember You) credit her as a main storyboarder, only furthering her pre-SU career. This probably inspired other writers to use the show as a vehicle for "personal expression" and, after Sugar left, for the helm of the show's production to be democratized to such a degree pretty much any coherence dissolved. Adventure Time's sandbox style of writing wouldn't have been a problem if the show remained episodic, or even maintained the level of continuity present in season 3-4 (meaning it was there, but kept at a relative minimum), but then the show's staff strained so beyond their capacity to please everyone (the lorefags, the dramafags, the adventurefags) in order to recapture the acclaim the show got under Sugar, that it ended up pleasing no one. This show is proof that a show without proper communication between its writers or leadership crumbles under its own weight. (cont.)

Now, would the show have lasted eight years (or ten if you count the special) if it never introduced lore and had remained an episodic comedy? I think so, actually. Most zoomers I know are unaware this show ever had continuity, they just remember it as that funny cartoon and I think the whimsical eccentricity of the first two seasons (and 3 and 4 to a lesser extent) would've carried the show to about a similar lifespan as it ended up having. Also, keep in mind that before TTG, AT was CN's flagship show, and even years after its faded into irrelevance the network still features Finn and Jake in promotional material. The show was originally popular because of its comedy. When it became serious this popularity didn't really fade (mostly because the show's reputation as a goofy cartoon was already cemented) but it also courted an older fanbase than latched onto certain writers. However, once Steven Universe premiered, there was a massive exodus of proto-SUfags into their current incarnation, and missteps in the show's writing (due to the lack of communication between the staff) also bled its fanbase into other shows like Gravity Falls and, later on, Star vs the forces of evil. Those who liked it for the humor also left and by then, the show was basically running on the coattails of its early legacy. I feel like people would've also become disinterested if it had stayed a comedy, but it also wouldn't have garnered such an autistic fandom, so its "downfall" wouldn't have been so sharp.

I don't know where the fuck I'm going with all of this but ultimately I feel like Adventure Time is a prime example of not how to do a cartoon. Had it fully committed to the lore and continuity gimmick, and not eight seasons in, then it wouldn't have tested so much of the viewers' patience. Instead, it just became way too self indulgent and because of that, struggled to find its own identity to the bitter end. It doesn't help that, on top of all of these blunders writing-wise, the show also had to deal with the natural entropy and fatigue that happens with every long running show eventually.

Good analysis, I'm the first user in this conversation. The history of this show really is interesting to me, it just changed so much over its lifetime and ultimately wound up borderline forgotten when it ended despite being huge when it started. It feels like it was a victim of its own success, first it got so big that nobody wanted to say "no" and give the show a clear direction, then the writers got too into the "this show can be deep" aspect which garnered critical acclaim while driving away most fans of the origical concept and inflating the writers egos to where they just made pretentious garbage for whole seasons, by that point it had enough prestige and lack of an audience that nobody had any interest in reining it in so it just drifted in the direction of whoever was writing whatever episode and never really had a strong vision behind it in its final years.

As an additional note, I really wonder what happened with the writers to where they had those bizarre anti-Finn tendencies. Was it just the result of an uninterrupted circle-jerk that nobody wanted to or saw reason to stop? Building resentment for the show?

>PPG and Ben 10
Why are you talking out of your ass? Do you not know how fucking marketable Ben 10 was? Did you never walk into a toy store within the last decade?

>PB’s extended family out of nowhere (ESPECIALLY Neddy.
She mentioned her Uncle Gumbald back in Susan Strong, so Season 2.

Stuff like that is basically a throwaway line that doesn't justify a character like Gumbald being so significant and also only appearing so late in the show.

That ed edd n eddy marathon was the shit. I Rember asking double d what 2+2 was and the mad lad said it was 5.

>weirdly defensive over it
It's not being defensive it's being anti-cancer. Turn to another channel then fag

Nah fuck you Twitch marathons are fucking awesome.

Ok buddy, just take a seat.

I'm glad AT didn't just stay like S1 for it's entire run. It was a great start, truly, but it was still rough and not all of the humor landed. Even considering just the comedy angle seasons 2 and 3 are the park of the show.

Also, I think people exaggerate the wackiness of the first season and say that it was all nonsense without any weight (though I get why casual viewers would think that). Even at the beginning, Finn at least was a rounded character with an emotional life that was treated seriously at times. I don't think the show would have been so popular if people didn't really care about the characters, and they did.

I'm comfortable in my seat thanks. Go speculate about the maker of the one you're sitting in having depression or an existential crisis or some wannabe bigbrain shit

And this fag is case in point

Sure thing, though I have to wonder why you are even in this thread if you don't like it when people talk about this show.

You can, I'm just saying your tastes are frankly awful and to tune into live action junk instead

Cool, got any suggestions?

I asked Eddy why he didn’t just ask his parents for a quarter and he actually answered with “Do you really think I didn’t try that?”
Just a brilliant marathon experience

This is just 4 episodes though, not a traditional twitch marathon, and it’s hosted by the actual channel which makes no sense