Why Family Guy has such tight storyboards for so little

Brainlets can't tell the difference between off-model sloppiness and off-model expressiveness.

The former is bad art and the latter keeps the art from looking boring.

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Family Guy doesn't even have storyboards I bet. All they've done is perfected GoAnimate.

Expressiveness is the gold that comes out of being looser.
You can definitely be loose and on-model, but it's gonna cost you.

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it does

they look exactly like the final product minus coloring

youtu.be/S-BbLyR7D84?t=219 (3:39)
make sure you aren't confusing the storyboard with either the animatic or the pencil drawings

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WEW

>La niña negra.

comic-mint.com/family-guy
youtu.be/1X6OAucemtE

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that's "niño pequeño" dumbass
here's what the animatics look like
youtu.be/9usjoLfpDRI

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this looks more alive compared to the final product

Why are these so clean and perfect? I've seen storyboards and animatics from many other shows and they're always even a little bit sketchy and off model

S1 has lots of good off model moments. Like that Twitter screencaps says, retakes cost money and we all know cartoon Network has tons of spare cash to throw around.

You were probably looking at more wasteful companies than fox. They've perfected weekly network tv animation. And by perfected I mean they have a system meant to be efficient with money and time. It's soulless ever sice the Simpsons movie but the suits LOVE that it looks great (read: looks clean) in HD and that it's relatively cheap for the final product as long as they put the leg work in for the Korean studio to basically just sprint the final leg of the race.

wait, family guy is animated by people?
i seriously believed that about 70% of the animation in the average family guy episode was done automatically, pre-programmed and just called up like in one of those old kids software packages. there's no reason to animate peter-talks-with-hands-to-add-motion-to-otherwise-still-scene.gif for every single episode.

>stevenfag Rees when she sees that actual animation studios have actual standards.

baffling post. the end product certainly isn't to a high standard of animation, i'm wondering why it looks so cheap if they're not using the cheapest method possible.

Old family guy storyboards was something I was looking at just a couple hours ago and thought about making a thread for but I didn't have enough interest to bother.

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it's called being "on model"

youtube.com/watch?v=63wJItfmu_0

I always assumed the series was done with basic pivots because of the shit like it's baffling to me that they still do the hand drawn thing and the output is so fucking lifeless and simplistic.

youtube.com/watch?v=63wJItfmu_0

You don't even need to explain yourself, just posting stills is enough to show how far the deep end the off-modeling went.

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American here. Peter is always on model.
His movements are stiff and expression is restrained.

jew-piter
what a lazy joke

I guess this is the same for Simpsons too. It has looked stiff and totally lifeless since the mid 00s.

This is not really a new thing. Disney tv in the early 00s was just as insane about the boards being completely on model, perfect and each board had to be a 1:1 perfect match for the actual animated shot. Proud Family and Lilo and Stitch the series had some rough direction that demanded every shot including all background be flawless on the boards.

The boards looked nice, but those demands made the storyboarding process take a lot longer since they had to be drawn and redrawn at least three times just to make sure everything is perfectly cleaned up.

I'm guessing whoever made that didn't know who Rodney Dangerfield was.

I actually kinda want one of these.

Is this so the Korean animators don't get anything wrong.

These are neither
these are the pencil drawings the koreans then ink and paint

What episode is this from?
That cop looks right out of Larry and Steve

and that's why superjail has such garbage animation
i'm being sarcastic

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you could probably just trace the characters from a screencap onto a piece of paper and add some fake korean text and animation lines

I hate that there's always this mild undercurrent of "it's the Korean's fault" in these post. It isn't. They aren't given enough control to make creative changes or merely creative assumptions, nor are they paid enough to care.
When the Koreans are given the control to fix the boards, draw to their full ability and call the shots, they produce Korra and Voltron and Castlevania (shut up, Texas guy). Setting all other things aside, those shows looked great.

Pay more, ask for more, or send someone from the states to the Korean studio to oversee production. Then you won't have retakes.

Did they (give the koreans control on the boards) for those three shows?
It could have just been a great studio.

personally this is why i don't like the owl house's look. it's just so perfect the characters aren't very expressive. there's some scene where lilith is supposed to be sad and it looks like the animator clocked out

How bad is it?

it's a great looking show, but it's excruciatingly on model to the point where it lets down the voice actors in some places. like basically everything king does

I was more talking about the scene.
Is it like Kingdom Hearts?

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no, it's all servicable, just not as interesting as it could be

This, but with nuDucktales
I can't stand the stiff look, it doesn't look like a proper duck cartoon when nothing is allowed to be visually exaggerated, it's just a bunch of dolls moving around

In the case of Korra and Voltron, they definitely had creative freedom to make things better.
Animation studios need to be able to make those calls. The reason we do storyboards here is because it's basically a form of scripting. The Koreans can do a lot better than what they're given.

>it's just so perfect the characters aren't very expressive
Owl House isn't perfect at all. The drawing is fundamentally weak. That is not the fault of the animation end, not directly. They're also not going to add any secondary animation that isn't called for.
The same studios also worked on Amphibia, and that was largely fine.

They find drawing on-model cartoons on paper "impressive", which is a shame because it gets scanned in and the other 75% is done digitally.

For the past few seasons they've been mastered in 4K too. Not that it matters because all that exists past Season 20 is crappy "web" encodes with bitrates lower than an audio CD.

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Does it matter if it's done digitally or traditionally?
Superjail was digital and it's fucking amazing

Whose fault is it then?

The responsibility is always at the top, in the same way a captain bears ultimate responsibility for his ship, not the lowest crew.
The animators aren't responsible for sloppy storyboarding, bad workflow, or strained budgets.
Gravity Falls looked fine. Amphibia looked fine. Even Big City Greens, the red-headed stepchild of the current crop of Disney shows, has far more charming moments than The Owl House. These are all outsourced to the same handful of studios. Blame the production on this end.

Well Thundercats Roar's animation was good, it's just the writing and designs that are ech

Is it?
Is it really?

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Not that poster, and you can and should hate Roar all you want. But Roar has done something interesting animation and timing-wise in almost every episode thus far. I can stay awake through an episode of Roar. It elicits emotions, however negative they may be.
My brain shuts down when confronted by the boredom and utter lack of personality of Owl House.

It can be

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