What was the point of creating a completely fictional "tribe" of "natives" so obviously inspired by AMERICAN natives while using motifs and imagery from Scandinavian natives? Is Hollywood that creatively bankrupt that they have to keep injecting their Southern Californian beliefs, ideas, and ideals on every single piece of media that they create? Can't they just respect different cultures (as they claim to do so) whenever they are portrayed?
Also...was Yelana sleeping with Mattias behind the tribe/Arendellian's backs? Their interactions reek of feigned animosity as a front to their peoples but they actually seem pretty amiable when interacting with each other. Was Mattias pounding that geriatric reindeertoe?
Because you were too damn young to remember the massive tumblr outrage of the Sami being portrayed as white in the first movie. Tumblr was convinced the Sami were actually just another Native American tribe and were fucking enraged that they were white and wore bright colors in the movie.
William Williams
Half the viewing public in 2013 assumed that the sami actually were native americans and screeched about evil white washing when they were portrayed as blond haired white people. It made for a stupid outcry of Disney racism.
Zachary Roberts
Because "Native Peoples" in any location around the globe will always and forever be a spiritual ambiguously brown group that reveres nature and talks to spirits no matter what.
Caleb Richardson
why does the woman in the op pic look like an albino elderly native woman?
Luis Bell
Being a Sami myself. I was surprised they actually used the word Sami in that movie. Not some fictional name.
Luke Russell
>spiritual ambiguously brown group that reveres nature and talks to spirits
This is so true and I blame Hollywood. Even in my country where WE'RE ALL NATIVE, there's a recognized "indigenous people" population who live in communities in the mountains and shit. We were all fucking colonized by the Spanish and they get a special label just because we transitioned into shirts and pants while some of them stuck to loincloths. Hell, they're Catholicized too and we down in the lowlands have our own pagan-derived customs so there isn't that much of a difference there either.
Levi Ortiz
Yeah, I was somewhat confused by their looks too. They're trying to tell me that aryan princess Elsa comes from actual Native Americans? Their mother looks nothing like them.
Matthew Kelly
Fucking this. People lost their fucking minds that Kristoff was some white guy and not a noble native american that somehow lived in southern Norway. I took the Northuldra as Disney throwing the really stupid people a bone and adding in something that was 99% native American.
David Martin
Americentrist ignorance. Good stuff!
Jeremiah Adams
Hell, their mother looks nothing like what she used to as a kid.
Joseph Brown
Getting rich and living in luxury turns people white
Adam Collins
Tbf, if you look at old photos and illustrations the sami look like mongols, even today you'll find some with clearly asiatic features. So in the "era" the movie takes place in they would certainly not look like white folk.
Ayden Stewart
So did Iduna become a child bride after leaving the forest or something?
Oliver White
We have Gypsy's, thieve's, rapists and infamously inbred but they are trying to push the victim status bit. Makes you look at the whole immigration thing and go why would you want other groups in your country when they are, brought in, have their backwards cultures promoted, encouraged to hate you and you'll be made to feel guilty about it.
Jordan Fisher
King Agnarr said that night, I came home king of Arendelle. That's a lie, he had to wait for his coronation just like Elsa did. Before that, you're not a King. UNLESS Arendelle is actually based enough to only make this a rule for queens.
Because Americans associate indigenous groups with brown people, so a lot of the audience would have been confused if the European indigenous tribe was European
>picture from the early 1900 Come on, the "breed them white"-policy begun in the 1800's. And the movie is taking place earlier* than that.
*yeah, i know, fantasy movie. But you know what i mean.
James Thomas
They're pretty white. Smaller stature and slightly more mongol looking, but still white. Blue eyes are common ffs. Also don't get me started on having a crowd of reindeer in the fucking forest. They live in the tundra on top of mountains and barren areas. And a bunch of black people in medieval Scandie? wtf is this.
Nathan Harris
Do you have any pictures of Sami people pre-1800s?
Dominic Williams
Can't say so, but in old written sources they're described as swarthy, certainly not blonde and blue eyed.
Brandon Smith
>google search >this is supposed to be from sweden 1868 wtf
Can you quote them? It doesn't seem to be in English. Or should I look them up myself?
Isaac Baker
Quote what, that the Danish secretaries wrote stuff like "a swarthy old sami was brought before the judge to answer for accusations of witchcraft"? I don't have the tome here so i can't give you anything more specific than that, but if you go to the university of tromsø's homepage you might maybe find them in their online library (but unless you're in academia you'll have to pay or sneak around the retardedly steep paywall).
Isaac Evans
Oh, OK. I thought it'd use an anthropological approach and describe their physical characteristics.
The cigarette is still being smoked the same way, not so sure about the ballbusting.
Luis Martinez
She was magically impregnated by the spirits as punishment for leaving
Jonathan Phillips
I think the books give a timeline that Agnarr was 14 when he left the forest, and they had Elsa together 10 years later. When they actually married is anyone’s guess.
Nicholas Howard
Still mad that sami stole our shtick of magic snow white people. Historical vikings weren't afraid of some reindeer fucker magic.
