Can you recommend me some Yas Forums? My flu stricken ass decided to watch "When the Wind Blows". What a downer
Then I followed It up with Birdboy, which is absolutely bleak and even more hopeless. Give me something good Yas Forums, bonus points if it's more under the radar.
Discussion of any of these films is welcome
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Incidentally I don't know if anyone's seen Birdboy, but if so, what did you think of it? I wasn't really a fan, really slow paced and with a story that basically goes nowhere. I get that's sort of the point, but it just wasn't that interesting in the first place for me to really want to see it through. And a lot of plot points kind of just get left despite being touched on.
When The Wind Blows was better, more a product of its time I'd say but I guess has some newfound relevance with covid
The original or the 2020 one?
The imagery and animation was top-tier, but the plot was trying way too hard to be artsy which ended up making it feel like less of a passion project and more of the film maker just jerking himself off over how deep he is.
Yeah that's fair honestly. The worldbuilding did seem decent enough, just lacked in other areas
>Birdboy
I feel the same for the story as well, but is so unusual and based for a western animation. The animation and design is just refreshing af btw.
>When The Wind Blow
Wow, i only know about this movie because one of the Pink Floyd members are doing the score and Jesus, what a depressing movie. Very underrated.
I recommend you to watch some underground adult animations, like The Plague Dogs or Persépolis. The japanese have a lot too, you will like.
It is a bit unusual for western animation but honestly I didn't really find it refreshing. I feel like despite it kind of was on that edge of not knowing if it wanted to be an adult film or kids film.
When the Wind Blows is just a complete downer, I can't reiterate that enough.
Thanks for the recs, I'm hoping more for stuff with charm and more positive vibes
I'll also be headed off to sleep soon probably, hopefully see some more suggestions when I awake. maybe i should have pretended this was a steven universe thread, guaranteed replies
The Illusionist gets pretty bleak near the end and is one of the best animated films I've ever seen. The Triplets of Belleville is made by the same guy and is more of a visual rollercoaster than about the story.
That's the closest I can describe it without saying the exact same thing in slightly different words
Feels up its own ass
There were a few bits I thought worked, like the pig guy's mother's addiction being represented as a demonic entity strangling the life from her and lashing out with the small remaining love weakly trying to surface
That was decent because it was able to work with the perspective of children aggrandizing a sick old woman's frightening appearance or the way a son feels faced with such a thing
But the other "demon" bits with Birdboy himself lose me, especially when it goes full retard with the fucking trash rats
Oh and as for a movie recommendation for you how about Secret of NIMH? That's a classic
It's like the creator didn't entirely know what he wanted to be the central theme of the story, so you have this weird jumbled "everything but the kitchen sink" plot where none of the given themes are given enough individual thought or time to become fully formed ideas.
It's a story about addiction, oh but also about nuclear power, and child abuse, and police corruption, and mental illness, maybe throw a bit of poverty here, oh and for good measure lets throw in religious fanaticism in there.
I get that some of these themes would naturally rise out of the others in a real scenario but when you only have two hours of run time to work with you kinda have to tighten it up a bit.
Does M Dot Strange stuff count?
His stuff has a very mid-2000's aesthetic to it (which shouldn't be surprising as his first film came out in 2007)
Have you watched The Secret of Kells? It's a visually appealing movie that has adventure. While it does have darker things happening in it, it never goes completely bleak. The other from the studio, Song of the Sea and the Breadwinner, are also well-received but I can't say I watched it myself yet.
Song Of The Sea is absolutely top-tier, ending is a little more bitter sweet but it's ultimately a pretty optimistic story about family.
Breadwinner is pretty good too, but it's definitely the darkest of the three dealing with pretty much just how shitty it is to live in a muslim country.
Sounds like Song of the Sea isn't too far from The Secret of the Kells in terms of tone or mood, maybe even more optimistic. Not too surprised to hear that about The Breadwinner, but it sounds like Song of the Sea is the one I'll likely check out first.
All fans of When the Wind Blows need to watch Ethel & Ernest.
Frankly I think SoTS is superior to Kells, Kells was an absolute visual feast of course but the plot and characters weren't that amazing. Song is still an absolute visual threat but it's a much more personal story between the brother and sister, the characters are well fleshed out and the plot does kinda act mainly as a vehicle for the development of the siblings relationship but it's still perfectly serviceable.
Breadwinner is the least visually impressive of the lot (though it still has some great animation and a few scenes that look really good, just not to the level of Kells or Song) but the plot and characters are pretty solid, the plot is the most fleshed out of the lot and stands up well on it's own and the characters are all pretty decent examinations of what kinds of people would be born from the circumstances presented, but still have a good amount of depth to them instead of just being archtypes. (the "main villain" is "defeated" simply because we see that he's nothing but a kid desperate to be seen as a man by the people around him, there's no fight or big defeat, he just gets called over to jump on the truck after he's humiliated and that's the last we see of him. I thought it was a really interesting way of doing the whole "villain" arch and turns what was a fairly one note character into a much more realistic person in a fairly subtle way)
Overall, they're both good and I'd recommend them
Not gonna touch that spoiler, but yeah, I'm going to have to agree that Kells had serviceable characters and plot but didn't really go much father than that. The art in itself really felt like it took the precedence over the plot, so I'm glad to hear that Kells' successors have improved with that.
I've been holding off on watching both of them, but I'm really looking forward to watching them now.
>Birdboy
I fucking loved it. No complaints.
Ernest and Celestine was a very wholesome/charming animated kids' movie.
I really should post this one on Yas Forums but since nobody there cares about it, well...
This didn't do much for me at all. I know it was pretty highly rated, but I simply wasn't into it
>trash rats
Interesting thing about them is the film introduces them at the start with the whole "we are the forgotten children" but it ultimately means nothing and goes nowhere. They're not very important at all. Then there's that rat and son who fights the other rat and son which just felt hamfisted
And despite all those themes the story never goes anywhere
the moon man is pretty but the story is meh
same for day of the crows
Glad to see the thread still up, thanks for the recs bros. I appreciate the suggestions.
Is it a little more cheerful?
Yeah I've seen Cartoon Saloon's stuff, I'm pretty big on their films.
I really enjoyed Breadwinner, something quite different.
I did take issue with the constant cuts to the Suleman "story". I get it and everything, but it just took up too much time for too little payoff and often felt like filler when it popped up. Song of the Sea is fantastic, I liked Kells too though not as much. Agree with a lot of this really.
Yeah this would be pretty perfect but unfortunately I've seen it
Nocturna is pretty cosy.
>tfw no hair messer /ss/ porn
Yo, where can I watch BirdBoy online?
depends if you care about quality
duckduckgo it
Did the 2020 version come out yet?
Don't know desu
It was confusing, I think the symbolism went over my head.
>Is it a little more cheerful?
Yeah
It's by the same author about his parents without any nuclear fallout
Like the IDEA of a society that's been cut off and its ecosystem ruined but people are either unable or too stubborn to leave could certainly be compelling. As you say though they really only look at it surface level
The whole movie feels like a short youtube film that spontaneously grew many times larger while still only having the limited handle of the themes
That's apt. Birdboy's story could probably have been told in 15 minutes, 20 tops. They used the extra time to add more to the world and try flesh out some other characters but it was half baked. I can't remember, did they ever even cover what drove the world into chaos?
I thought it was really cute and heartwarming. The house’s design was interesting too.
The nuclear power plant blew up or something like that.
Well that's pretty underwhelming
Birdboys dad's backstory was underwhelming too as I recall
That's the thing, I don't think it's bad or anything, I just didn't find it particularly interesting or making some sort of meaningful point at all
thanks
Didn't the crows have almost nothing to do with the movie despite them being the focal point in the title?
I doubt it, nothing was all that deep
The wheels kept spinning in place and I hated the fact that the mouse girl loved birdboy for no reason. Other than that it was a fun movie admittedly more about the journey and the characters they meet along the way rather than actually escaping the island.
they did show the mouse girl and bird boys backstory in fairness
it wasn't deep or anything but eh it was something
It has a nice message about the importance of family. I also liked how the child characters behaved like real kids and not like the idealized moeblobs in most modern anime.
Loved it, looked more like a tale than a story. Kinda all over the place, with the demons and the drugs, but it played perfectly to the theme and art style.
Monster in Paris
On Happiness Road
Maquia: When the promised flower blossoms (anime but I quite liked it despite not really being into anime)
>anime but I quite liked it despite not really being into anime
Moomins is the most wonderfully chill cartoon ever. The 90's cartoon. The newer one is OK, but lacks the charm the 90's one had.
>I hated the fact that the mouse girl loved birdboy for no reason.
i'll check it out
The Secret of NIMH is good, but whimsical or charming, it ain't.
yes
That's fair, personally I really liked the story parts and was genuinely surprised by the big reveal, but I can see how some folk would get taken out of the story by it.
Thanks for that heads up
I guess any animated movie recs are fine really, just when I made the thread I was coming off 2 downers. I'm surprised I'm not seeing more mainstream stuff being recommended though
>not charming
like hell it ain't
To be honest cut-aways to a completely different story even if it symbolically ties in later is a storytelling tool I generally hate. The Peanuts movie did it and I just started skipping through them I got that fed up with it. Don't feel like I missed anything eitherr
savoury bump, probably the last one