Pax Americana

>-on pages 12 and 13, I caught sight of a massless time-symmetrical boson. A mobius loop curving through eight dimensions. I heard something knocking on the door to get in-
What was the Gentry's effect on the story here? Was it Sargent Steel killing Nora? Was it Peacemaker planning to kill the president? Or was it The Question's investigation that could uncover Harley's plan and cause it all to fall apart?

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I don't think Atom dies, just gets pulled into Final Crisis. When he meets the president in the graveyard I'm not sure.

Yeah I'm almost completely certain he doesn't die, just gets sent to another universe most likely where he comes in at final crisis.

Shit I forgot the most important part of the metaphor: the dog. If you enjoy it you don't have to question why if questioning kills what you enjoyed in the first place. Sometimes a thing isn't your thing and you can leave it at that. Sometimes a thing is and you can leave it at that.

That's hilarious if true.

>we've found a way to kill the super-god: we put a black hole in his brain!
>lol that's cute. brb, gonna help save the multi-verse
>we killed him!

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It's Grant Morrison attempting (and failing) to prove he can write Watchmen better than Alan Moore. The story, art, and gimmick is entertaining enough, but it proves Grant is a poor man's Moore and I say that as someone who'd rather read Grant over Moore most of the time.

This page describes depression so well.

>I heard something knocking on the door to get in-
Yeah I love this line, but I have no idea what it's referring to.

Quitely>Gibbons
But yeah Pax is too convoluted for its own good and Watchmen reads better.

This page reads so much better backwards.

its like watchmen but good

Did you not read the rest of Multiversity? "Something knocking at the door" is a recurring sign of the Gentry entering the story, among other things.

Yeah I guess, I always hesitate to make up my own meaning for vague stuff since I feel like the odds are high that i'm guessing correctly.

This story is fantastic but also just plain depresses me. Poor Butch...

Oh I missed he was planning to be resurrected, I thought he was sacrificing himself so the world peace he built would be secured if he died a martyr everyone would remember as this great figure rather than just leave office normally or faltering and tarnishing his image risking his work eventually losing the publics understanding of its importance and falling back into conflict.

>NOOOO NOT THE WOOF WOOF PUPPERINO NOOO NOT THE FURKID NOOOO
Die in a fire, wine aunt

Exactly how seriously is this post intended to be taken?

Its hard to find a good balance with stories sometimes. Take a break with something else, then come back to it.

It's not like a meal, where you have to eat it before it gets cold. Take it as much as is enjoyable, then take the rest later.

Don't feed the trolls

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Since this takes place while crisis, final crisis is like the ending to the gentry

Or rather his 'fuck you' to Alan Moore for even inventing Watchmen.

Grant Morrison talks a ton of shit but it's clear he respects Alan Moore a lot. Dude didn't touch before watchmen with a one hundred foot pole.

Say Morrison slowly and it sounds like Moore's son

Wonder what the image of a Hunchback becoming a solider references

Hunchback is a ?
Soldier is a !

sacred-texts.com/oto/lib148.htm

Oh so Aleister Crowley

>It's Grant Morrison attempting (and failing) to prove he can write Watchmen better than Alan Moore.

I think you're completely missing the point here. This is Morrison trying to comment on what makes Watchmen great while also commenting on the nature of comics in general and its culture. I see no pretension of competing with Watchmen, only a flattering attempt at mimickry

can someone explain to me Morrisons fascination with "occult" stuff?
Like Spiral Dynamics and the "whole willing things into reality" magic, among other things, i've seen it appear or be alluded to in a lot of his works.

Besides Don Beck and Chris Cowan's spiral dynamics there is also Ken Wilber's integral theory tied into the book. There is an overall color theory as each section moves through those 8 colors of the rainbow.

Well Morrison said in the director's cut that he chose spiral dynamics because he wanted to give him something that seemed like a natrual next step after his Ryandian beginnings and Zen beliefs during O'neil's run.

Because he is a hippy nutcase that wants to explore these nonsensical concepts. It's all good literary fun though, it gives him easy symbolism to integrate into his stories

This. Moz is one of my favorite comic writers, but some of his ideas are wacked out.

The Empty Hand is a metatextual threat above everything, representing the co-dependency formed between fans and publishers. My interpretation is that the Empty Hand manifests itself in Pax by giving the reader a "realistic" world, where the man-made god just fucks off to somewhere and when people die they're dead.

Because he was visited by 5 dimensional blobs which gave him literal superpowers

Morrison does chaos magic. Twenty years ago he did a panel at a magic convention about it.
youtube.com/watch?v=l-cxBuRU09w

As someone who agrees with him on some shit but disagrees on a lot as well, you can't have one without the other.
One thing I like without him is how I've never seen him shy away from whatever influence he had on writing any given book. Once you learn his interpretative keys, some of his books even lose a lot of the impact (though the only case that comes to mind is probably the Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius / Orqwith thing), but it becomes plain to see how much whatever's around him when he's writing goes on to form the book.

what thing are you talking about

Spiral Dynamics isn't really occult, Morrison chose it because it's an 8 layered view of society for his Question to Ditko's Black and White binary view.

I love both, but I disagree for the most part. Gibbons is one of the best at the face game, while Quitely is not that great at faces.

It’s a dr manhattan ripoff

Well, Doctor Manhattan was a Captain Atom expy, so that seems fair

That's...the point..

Quitely has improved a ton. Compare his female faces in X-Men to his female faces in, say, Jupiter's Legacy.

I remember not being able to love Morrison's X-men specifically because of Quitely's faces when I was as a kid.

He got better. Read All Star. His body language is second to none.

Oh, yeah, I completely agree. Just saying. I didn't mind it in Flex Mentallo though, which is kind of odd.

Forgot to add that he was always behind schedule on X Men so the work was always rushed.

What I'm confused about is do you also read the speech bubbles backward or just the panel?

>a secret formula
>about killing Captain Atom
>I--I got rumors is all--

Honestly I've never been able to see what others do when they say they could 'read it backwards'. Although I guess if you were to just look at Quietly's panel work then the way they zoom in and out works frontwards and backwards.

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I'm even confused about the layout. Is it the last bottom panel we start out with and read zig zag or the last top panel?

watchmen but during it instead of mostly post tense

You start with the bottom right panel.

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