How do "lifelong comic fans" not realize titty n gunz comics have never gone anywhere?

How do "lifelong comic fans" not realize titty n gunz comics have never gone anywhere?

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>NOTHING IS WRONG, ALL THESE PEOPLE BEING DRIVEN AWAY AREN'T REAL FANS, THEY NEVER WERE! BLAAAARGH ANTI-SJWS ARE KILLING THE INDUSTRY.

Be more subtle.

>titty n gunz comics have never gone anywhere?
Hi newfag.

Normal male sexuality is now considered bad

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Counterpoint: Cable.
Counterpoint: Punisher.
Do I need to keep going?

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Hi casualgate!

How could you not find Titty n Guns comics in the past decade?

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Cable became a teenager and the Punisher TV series had to become about some cuckold drama.

No one claims they are 100% gone but they have factually been severely limited.

If the sjw threat was just imagined then Frank Cho wouldn't have had to pay a abused woman's shelter 1000 dollars to get the twitter feminist off his back after they lost their minds about the Spider-Gwen FAN ART commissions he did.

Rucka wouldn't have claimed pic related was a panty shot and forced Cho off of doing Wonder Woman variants.

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No shut up it's not real, you're just not a real fan, hahaha

I mean I see titty here...

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Bro that comic is from 1996. The 2013 sequel covered her in a full body suit.

And we aren't talking about the last full decade. The censorship started largely in 2011 with people loosing their mind about new 52 Starfire & Catwoman & in 2012 with Carol getting the Captain Marvel mantle and it just got worse and more unreasonable from there.

>Stop making comics people like to read.
>They stop reading newly published comics and start reading older ones, Euro comics, Jap comics, etc.
>Call people who don't read shitty Big Two comics full of SJW nonsense 'casuals,' showing your absolute hypocrisy and double standards (as expected of such ideologues).
>American comics continues its slow death.

We've just had this thread 2 times consecutively.
>inb4 it's different
It's not. It's going to be the same damn shit again, and again, and again, every 5 hours, every day, like it's been for years. So might aswell post this pic already, since it tends to be threadly.

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zenescape fucking lives on titties and guns and titties and magic comics.

Legz n Thighs count?

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You literally just got done trying to push the 'noooooo modern comics are fine, nothing is wrong, it's just casuals, shut up' through the las thread and now you're doing it again.

Once again I never said they were completely gone and that cover is extremely recent after things have started to get better. The ALL NEW MARVEL NOW Era right after the end of Hickman's Avengers was the giant peak of SJW-ism in comics and things have slowly been getting better since that era ended. Black Cat has cleavage again for example.

No they fucking don't.

no shut up you're not a REAL FAN you don't read real comics.

You're right, Japan and various Euro countries have kept publishing them. Shame about America tho.

Do it and sell it online. Go full violent hentai if that's what you want.

>violent
What's wrong with violence in fiction?

>NOOO, STOP POSTING FACTS, THEY HURT MY FEELINGS!

ok just tiddy

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Yes that was nice but like I said here It's a very recent comic.

The reason people are in a uproar very recently despite things overall getting better is Marvel just released their last giant spiteful middle finger at us with the SJW-ified New Warriors.

Doesn't Top Cow and Zenoscope's ongoing success kind of mean you're wrong though? Like there are plenty of titty and guns comics at conventions. And no one really gets mad at this. The whole thing is a moot point, people are fighting over an imaginary Twitter beef.

>appalled at sex
Yeah probably
>appalled at violence
This is not true. Americans don't bat an eye at that shit. Hell in the punisher comic that came out this year goatfuckers skinned some russians alive

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So stop reading big 2 comics. There's plenty of what you're looking for on the indies.

I've seen backlash on curvy women thing but never on violence.

Frank and Cable do have big titties now that you make me think about it.

Since when do people care about the fucking New Warriors? Is this a joke?

NOOOOOOOOOOO STOP RUINING MY NARRATIVE.

I don't think Black Cat ever lost her cleavage?

Stepjan Sejic draws titties comic and he gets away with it by yuri baiting to make people think reading his comics makes them progressive.

Simon Furman’s To The Death comic is a good example of this.

Twitter sjws don't care about anything but the big 2 because they only care about what is popular and what they can warp to fit their agenda.

> And no one really gets mad at this People factually called for creators to be fired. They absolutely do.

They're not actual fans and their only window into the comic industry is a bunch of disgruntled grifters

I regret not getting Frank Cho's autograph

It's not a matter of the New Warriors being popular. It's about them sledgehammering every single thing we hate about sjw-ism into a single project.

Watch this video please - youtube.com/watch?v=5PCWUCv1rnU

And look at the like to dislike ratio.

The funny thing is all of what you said can be applied to comicsgate and most of the retards who pollute this board with their constant bitching about "the comic industry" when all they know is the latest clickbait "progressive" Marvel comic.

Don't you have a kickstarter you should be fulfilling B. Clay?

It reminds me of people who think wrestling sucks now because WWE's gone to shit, but then you show them something like AEW or GCW and then nine times out of ten they're wrestling fans again. Like, comics are bigger than just the big two and I was that rather just complain people learn to broaden their horizons.

>People don't know new comics! They're not real fans.
>Also people just complain about the new comics!

Time to go back.

>titty n gunz comics have never gone anywhere?
Wasn't that the whole of the comics industry in the 70s and 80s?

I have. The amount of posting it generated (on other boards where it's off topic especially) is retarded and proves faggots like Breveroot right. Literally nobody would care about a fucking New Warriors revamp if they didn't make it outrageous idpol bait. I guarantee you this book will generate more talk in storytimes than any other Marvel book, just like America did. Hopefully it's actually hilariously bad like America, and not just a tongue-in-cheek bait.
And don't give me that "we" shit, fag.

She was turned into a villain for several years for no fucking reason and had this outfit for the duration.

Now I actually don't think it's a bad outfit but I'm just using it as a example.

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I'm not talking about "new comics", I'm talking about comics other than the big 2.
No, you go back.

> The funny thing is all of what you said can be applied to comicsgate
They don't really call for people to be fired. They don't brand writers/artist they dislike as being nazis or misogynist.

You don't have to buy the book or even read it, and New Warriors of all things isn't going to be a flagship marvel title.

>They don't really call for people to be fired
lolwat. The whole fucking thing gained traction as a movement to get Heather Antos and some other irrelevant Marvel book editors fired for drinking milkshakes instead of doing their goddamn job. What even do you think is the goal of CG if not to get everyone that's slightly SJW "tainted" fired from the big 2?
>They don't brand writers/artist they dislike as being nazis or misogynist.
Instead they called them anti-white, anti-male, and all the usual shit.

Did they ever explicitly call for her to be fired? I thought they just made fun of her.

I don't think I'm willing to sift through thousands of tweets from years ago, all of which may arguably be legitimatelly part of an informal movement or not, or watch all of Meyer's and EVS' retarded nonsense rambling youtube videos to find out whether someone explicitely called for someone to be fired or if they just implied really hard that anyone currently at the big 2 should never work in comics again.

>The new gatekeepers of the mainstream
This is an excuse for laziness or lack of talent.
The traditional industry is on thin ice and the internet is free range for everything from post-it note sketches on instagram to guro rape doujins.
Produce content and your audience will find it.
No one is holding you back but yourself.

You're right in principle, but in reality suceeding on the internet is a lot more complex than just posting. Retards and boomers can't SEO for shit, let alone market. And what is optimized and market-friendly might not be what you wanted to make to begin with. Niches exist, reaching them isn't necessarily easy with the amount of competition that exists.

Anyone else anyone using the term "Casualgate" are themselves casuals that clearly don't read comics?

>How do "lifelong comic fans" not realize titty n gunz comics have never gone anywhere?

best selling comic in the world btw

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Its one guy who spams every threat with it

>for no fucking reason
There was a reason and his name is Dan Slott.

> What even do you think is the goal of CG if not to get everyone that's slightly SJW "tainted" fired from the big 2?
For them to just top putting the propaganda in the comics.

Jason Aaron is a great example he wrote one of my absolute favorite comics ever but he has also written the worst She Hulk in the history of the character and he openly mocks people that dislike it in the comic. I don't want him fired I just want him to do better.

Nick Spencer is the same. I really liked his Avengers World run but then he did the awful Cap as Hydra crap.

> Instead they called them anti-white, anti-male, and all the usual shit.
None of that has the same power. If you genuinely make people think someone is a nazi they may never work again. It's beyond morally reprehensible.

Not to mention heather antos wouldn't be allowed to become a political commissar for the whole industry

I guess I could understand why casual mcufags would think that given all the best Mavel characters never show up in the movies, but most of the top Marvel women were hot as fuck in the 80s and 90s. Psylocke, Storm, Emma Frost, Black Cat, MJ, Jean Grey, Cuckcoo Sisters being a schoolgirl fetish emporium..


Not to mention classics like Gen13 with Scott Campbell and Michael Turner being a God Among Men

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And ass.

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They aren't even right in principal. They said nothing holds you back but there is pressure to make sure certain content simply doesn't exist.

Lets use the Witcher 3 as an example of a piece of media, colossal success in the west, a game starring a European male, in a fantasy Europe and filled with sexually attractive women. But the game was made in Poland, hasn't been a mainstream game with those qualities made in the West for a few years now despite there clearly being a large market for it.

>remember that period in the 90's where every book was titties and guns and comics were selling 100's of thousands per issue, practically printing cash and everyone was reading them, and there was a boom of comic book stores

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Nice way to out yourself a fag who doesn't read comics

Hydra Cap was based and I got to hand it to Nick Spencer he managed to write a comic that pissed literally everyone off.

>>appalled at sex
>Yeah probably

Confirmed for not living in the US. Sex and nudity has been in the mainstream since the 60's in the US. It may not be as apparent as it is in Europe where you have topless women in children's entertainment, but the US isn't as big of a degenerate cesspool.

Remember when Marvel sexualized the fuck out of an underage teen girl?

I miss that Marvel.

I miss Laura pre-dyke era.

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What kind of comics are being pressured to not exist though?

That sounds fair, though I always find the use of the word "propaganda" disingenuine. And I haven't found your amount of measure in most of your cohorts.

>None of that has the same power.
All of it is bullshit criticism though, regardless of the social stygma. Drawing tits and ass doesn't make you sexist, and having a female lesbian space-latinx culturally apporpriating protagonist doesn't make you anti-white male. Granted Gabby is literally anti-white male so that's a pretty bad example, but the comic itself (while terrible) isn't really in any way a message against white males.

Also there's been a lot of talk about "blacklisted for being called a nazi" but I've never since a proper instance of it in this industry. People like EVS literally talk shit about the people who may employ him, that's why they're blacklisted, not because someone on twitter called them a nazi.

EVERY SINGLE BOOK HAD GUNS, TITTIES, AND ASS AND IT SOLD

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>AEW
Yeah it's pretty gr--
>GCW
Ohhhh buddy