Almost 5 years already

GARBAGE

If your boyfriend has a mental breakdown, you don't use that as an opportunity to get him to marry you and hide his mental instability from your teammates. She didn't even try to get him help and even accepted responsibility for what happened in the 90's.

Sorry, but all that was retconned in the latest Nadia run, now according to the new writer, Jan tried to help Hank but he said no.

Honestly, I wish the writers would stop cockteasing and give us a damn conclusion to Pymtron already. Worst yet was the lead in to Infinity Wars where they separated Pym’s soul from Ultron only to have that piece of it get eaten for no damn reason and then Slott’s Iron Man where they actually created a means of separating humans from machines, teased Pymtron with it only to not bother using it on him because he surrendered. If the writers don’t actually have any real story, just separate them already

>even Spencer
I liked the dinner party in Secret Empire.

Marvel doesn't have heroes, they just have supervillains pretending to be heroes.

Sacred corporate synergy dictates only Scott "relatable everyman" Lang be used now. They already tried to finagle it so Ultron would be Tony's fault in the interest of Avengers 2, if they could just shrink Hank into an old man they would do so in a heartbeat.

Jan's is really a piece of shit. She mentally abused Hank knowing he was mentally ill, triggered Wanda into killing people and creating the House of M and she gets to play the victim because she was hit one time by the guy she was abusing.

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Eh, being Ant-Man has been Scott's thing for a long time, even before synergy. Pym has always been defined more for being, well, Pym than being any other of his superhero identities. I honestly think that, synergy would be better than his current situation.

When the hell will they meet each other?

When are they actually going to meet? They've been dragging this out for way too long.

Did Unstoppable Wasp end without a Pymtron fight? Seriously? I stopped reading after the SJW bipolar arc.

>punched Janet in the face and beat up a bunch of minority girls, including lesbians and a cripple
Yeah, I'm thinking she's Based.

>SJW bipolar arc
What? It was obviously a way to have a Pym that struggles to overcome mental illness without looking like they're backpedaling on "domestic violence bad"

No, there was also a Champion plot about Ultron but they never used it, not sure what are they trying to do, maybe in this new event with the young heroes Pymtron will help Nadia and Viv but who knows.

You are a retard, Pym stopped being Ant-Man decades ago.

i cant trust the hacks at marvel not to fuck up my boy

Or Jan told A FUCKING LIE!

I'll never understand why they decided to throw Hank under the bus over an artist error. Cheap drama to milk? If they're going all in with evil Hank Pym, could they at least have the decency to have him keep his Yellowjacket mantle instead of this weird as half Ultron nonsense? All it does is rob us of two characters in favor of one shitty character

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It's a real shame, Pym is one of the best cape characters of all time, he is not a villain nor a hero, he tries to do the right thing but he can royally fuck everything up the next moment, he is a very human character with many facets compared to a lot of other superheroes, but that's also why he had to go, not only because he was a problematic figure for the image that the MCU is trying to push of the Avengers, but because all in all his character is percieved as too complex compares to others. Not to say that he is so incredibly damn deep, but compared to other Big 2 heroes he actually is. Rage of Ultron was beautiful in my opinion and the best possible conclusion to the story arc of a character so tragic, every other Pym story after it may as well never exist.

Fucking Wasp!

Based

How can they possibly follow up this page to make Hank NOT look in the right? Because everything he's saying is unarguably correct, both about his own good deeds and the hypocritical way others look down on him for a single act that pales in comparison to the awful things they do on a semi-annual basis.

they have scott ant man agree with him

Scott talks to him and makes him stop because he is one of the few genuine friends that Pym has.

Quads confirm

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Hank is a piece of shit, but the whole ultron thing has gone on long enough. I would like to see heroic hank again though, have him in a new avengers academy series or something, he was great in that.

Rage of Ultron (as good as it was) was clearly never meant to be in continuity and everything after feels like them scrambling to work Pymtron in.

It's weird how inconsistent Marvel was with Pymtron. Sometimes he was just Ultron wearing Hank's skin as a costume, othertimes Hank showed through and even seemed dominant.

I think that's the point user. Almost like it's both characters fighting for control

They will ruin Avengers Academy like they ruined New Warriors

If they use that and have hope save him or even kill him and Pymtron saying th k you it would be a beautiful story. Although I’d prefer her saving him.

Surely they won't poison the well as badly as they did with West Coast Fagvengers, right?

“I’m such a hero keeping the monster I created at bay”

I mean, yeah. That's more than what Tony and most of the other super science fucks do regarding the horrible monsters THEY create.

What was wrong with west coast avengers, I though it was fine

wouldn't be the first time

Should I read some Pym stuff? I've never read any before.
Where should I start? What should I skip?

>“I’m such a hero keeping the monster I created at bay”
That could be said for a lot of Marvel characters.

The thing seems to be that writers are scared of getting Janet's blood on their hands by writing Pym as anything other than a madman or Ultron's puppet after he'd been reset at least three times

-West Coast Avengers just as Doctor Pym (forgotten)
-Kicking the shit out of Ultron in Busiek's run (ignored)
-Scientist Supreme (lol nah that was just Loki fucking with him)

So everytime he does get on his feet somebody like Bendis comes along and tries to score points by beating Pym up cuz he hit a woman when he was in a state of temporary insanity.

Never mind all the other shit Avengers have done and gotten a pass for it. Hank Pym is worse than most villains to modern talent, and he's done NOTHING to deserve it.

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I just want to see Pym meet Nadia

And have it drawn by GuriHiru

>over an artist error
Explain

>there were sweet Nadia and Scott father daughter moments
>not Nadia and Hank
WHY

marvel method means the artist draws the story from a brief outline and then the words are added later. the artist drew a full on deliberate slap when it was supposed to be an accidental hit.

I'm sure Remender had a plan but he's gonzo. God I'd love for him to write for DC.

IT was worse than that: they had Tony AND Jan AND Jocasta AND Vision all reject Hank and shit on him to the point that you'd have thought that Chuck fucking Austen was writing the story.

Also you must have just glanced over the story because they point blank PROCLAIMED that Ultron's scheme wouldn't work on him by way of saying that Hank was dead and that if they split Hank/Ultron, that all that would have happened is Ultron being reduced to half a body and a bunch of lifeless limbs/half a head for Hank laying on the ground. They took a huge shit on Hank while at the same time, EXPLICITLY stated that Hank was dead and that it was Ultron they were facing but STILL treating him as Hank even though Slott explicitly state at the climax of the arc, that he's not and is just Ultron with a bunch of corpse parts attached to his robot body.

The "artist error" thing is Jim Shooter LYING HIS FUCKING ASS OFF to deflect ALL blame for arguably his biggest fuck up of his entire career in comics (and that says something, given the number of fuck ups Shooter has under his belt).

See also him also making shit up about Bill Mantlo, blood libeling him for all sorts of things (like claiming Bill wanted to do a story where Spidey has a bastard son from when he was a college freshman), knowing Mantlo's health issues (effectively brain damaged with the mind of a child) makes it impossible for him to call Shooter a liar.

Rage of Ultron was not only supposed to be continuity (it was greenlighted back when Remender was still going to write a second volume of Uncanny Avengers that was supposed to be a full-on ongoing, not just an aborted 5 issue mini), it was also greenlit because Remender had done a similar story in Secret Avengers (Hank became a cyborg) and it was so fucking extreme that everyone basically ignored it making Remender super fucking butt-hurt and demanding he get a do-over.

Austen was the one who shitted on Hank; ironically, Bendis (while shitting on Hank) always hinged it on the fact that in spite of his bad rep, Hank was 100% good.

Fuck, Bendis wholesale ripped off Grant Morrison when he revealed that Hank was so good and pure, that he managed to weaponize his soul/memories to turn every Skrull made into a dupe of him good until the Skrulls tampered with the procedure that was being used in Secret Invasion to make perfect spies that Reed Richards couldn't detect, by way of leaving that spy's mind intact so that he was just pretending he was Hank instead of believing 100% he was Hank.

Not to mention explicitly stating that killing Hank before he creates Ultron creates an evil WORSE bad future and having Wolverine having to kill himself to stop his past self from killing Hank.

it really is crazy how tony of all people is pointing the finger at hank, the dude who created ragnarok, the dude thatt turned on the avengers numerous times. the dude that couldnt wait for the ralationship with hank and jan to be over before making a move on janet to try and criticize anyone. one of the biggest pieces of shit "heroes" out.

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He will be her daddy now.

No sexual.

Osama

I thought she had Jarvis for that.

>Scientist Supreme (lol nah that was just Loki fucking with him)

But it's obvious it wasn't Loki, Hank just fucked Loki and his magic so much that he had to lie to try to save his ass.

The worst part is that all the people got mad because he offered Loki a place in his Avengers.

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