Hated these two, but looks like they were right all along

well shit...

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Why did you hate them in the first place?

okay ill explain...

richard has been nothing but a dick to other peoples work for years, so i was looking forward to watching him fail, then that idiot Waid calls and we drop his book and he becomes a martyr. all because of on idiot phone call.

EVS is a Great artist. cant take that away from him. but he has been nothing but a dick most of his carrer.
obviously have more of a problem with Dick, but i dont like them both.

but im man enough to own up to being wrong. since on here i called cyberfrog 2 being a failure and that pandemic comic failing. been wrong mutiple times with these two so im gonna stop making predictions. but they called this shit 2 years ago. almost to the tee. time for me to give credit where its due.

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Look at their double chins in OP's pic

Fuck off, War Campaign faggot. We know it's you.

Op: sorry try again, i have no idea who War campaign is.

>we drop his book
>we

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I mean, I knew they were right. They may be assholes, but I knew they were right when I watched a few of Meyer's videos (never really watched EVS, just know him from his Twitter shenanigans)

I stopped reading comics around One More Day and a lot of Yas Forums did too back in the day. Back when we were getting pissed on things like Blue Beetle being killed off, the whole Max Lord thing, and were calling on how if companies can throw decades of history in the garbage to chase a fad, the industry would die soon after.

I think most of those people left Yas Forums, all that's left is the "Yas Forumsmblr" crowd and stuff shifted more towards cartoons discussions. It was also around the time of the colored horse invasion.

Old Yas Forums would have loved these guys

Sorry, I work at a comic book publisher, (not AP) so just a slip of the finger so to speak

If the industry had listened in the beginning, or really just opened their eyes and seen the writing on the walls.

Let it die. Let movies die. Let TV die.

And let it all be replaced with an entertainment industry that actually gives a shit about entertaining people as opposed to preaching at and trying to brainwash their audience.

I'm not happy about it. But I think it's what has to happen.

I fucking don't, I was there when we storytimed Iron Sights. Just reading that made me want to take his money

>and he becomes a martyr

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Anarchism of the entertainment industry when

I dislike them but Waid went from being one of my favorite writers to being a deplorable jackass. I can’t believe how much of a dick he is.

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> entire country has to shut down because of deadly virus

>BASED boys were right all along!

The first Jawbreakers had 10,619 backers, Cyberfrog landed 8,566 backers. Their biggest successes have sold roughly the amount that the Tumblrface Squirrel Girl comics sold in their dying days.

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>a comic heavily pushed by the number one comics publisher in America sold the exact same amount as two indie comics with no push from any publisher at all
This isn't the own you think it is.

op: dont try to fucking strawman me faggot. They said the industry as it was would not survive. they didnt say why or how.

What other industy is about to collapse due to covid right now?

Ill wait...

spoilers: only comics.

they were hanging on by a thread and the virus snapped it

>richard has been nothing but a dick to other peoples work for years
Why can't modern comic book "professionals" handle criticism of their work?

I don't follow comic industry internet drama. Anyone care to give a concise, unbiased, dry breakdown of who they are and what they're right about?

>a comic book actually does fine
>"U-UH NOT AN OWN XD"
What are you even doing here.

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Are you retarded?

I know I'm not stupid enough to suggest comic books are dying because grifters told me so.

lol no one with an IQ in the triple digits would think the comic books industry is doing just fine.

Ya boy Zack is a fucking hypocrite since he cries about when people make fun of his own comics.

The had *less* backers than Squirrel Girl had at it's peak. With their mighty War of Le Culture, they still barely scratched the numbers that it took to get canned from Marvel.

They have gone on to nab even fewer backers in subsequent campaigns. Their epic needle moves still selling less issues (because nobody is buying that dogshit on a whim, everyone remotely interested in the books backed them upfront) than shit widely considered as the go-to examples of comics that don't sell.

>j-joke son you nobody EXPECTED them to sell!

Much better own...

Are you underage?

What's wrong with ya boi Zack? Who's the other guy?

Proof of that claim? I've never seen him cry about critique.

Oh, yeah. I remember when comicgate predicted the covid 19.

Man I miss being able to properly sage.

It's doing just fine, actually.

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>I've never seen him cry about critique.
He only made himself unemployable. Not big deal.

>He only made himself unemployable
Because modern comic book professionals can't handle criticism of their work.

He encouraged people to shit on the first jawbreakers book he was proud of when it came out

>ya boi critiques SJW comics
>SJWs tell ya boi to make his own omics if he doesn't like theirs
>ya boi makes his own comic
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!!

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What's the status on this? Is Waid still drawing it out? Did Meyer drop it?

It's still ongoing

This. How in God's name can these fags not see this? What level of autism does it take?
Good riddance. American comics are for liberal mutts.

Modern comic book writers actually work on modern comic books as a result of behaving like professionals.

Okay

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Dude is a fuckin snowflake, I've seen him alienate and sick his dicksuckers on anyone who says a mean word about him.

>a comic touted as a huge success by Marvel but sold shit sells about the same as literally whos trying to start some sort of comic revolution
It's not exactly anything to be proud about

>The had *less* backers than Squirrel Girl had at it's peak.
You're still comparing indie comics with no publisher with a heavily pushed comic by the biggest publisher in America. You. Are. Stupid.

See

>I've seen him alienate and sick his dicksuckers on anyone who says a mean word about him.
Sauce?
>Ya boy Zack is a fucking hypocrite since he cries about when people make fun of his own comics.
Sauce?

Yas Forums - "politics" & bait

Squirrel Girl sold bad even by successful indie book standards, selling less than that even if it is indie is not a great sign of accomplishment.

>This. How in God's name can these fags not see this? What level of autism does it take?
They don't realize it only makes Marvel look bad.

That is a lie. He mentions the damage that blue checked Twitter cunts can cause if you fuck with them, and he strongly advises against it.

>And let it all be replaced with an entertainment industry that actually gives a shit about entertaining people
You're honestly pretending in your narrative that there is nothing out there to entertain? This is why people think you're mental. There are plenty of things out there but as always, you're too busy complaining, not exploring things and supporting them. This whole situation would be fixed if the focus was pushed away from negative click bait e celebs towards people actually voting with their wallet.

You might not do this, but the issue always has been people continuing to buy products they supposedly hate just so they can moan about them.

I'm not gonna spoon feed you, it's common knowledge that ya boi Zack is constantly at odds with people within Comicsgate itself alone.

>This isn't the own you think it is.
It was a Z list book about a Z list character.

>shitting on outrage fags
Based.

What part of HEAVILY PUSHED COMIC BY NUMBER ONE COMICS PUBLISHER IN AMERICA do you not understand exactly? Why do you think this is some own over two indie guys who are signed to NO publisher, let alone a big one, and who have been actively pushed out of ALL the streams of comics; not just the mainstream? They have their fans who number in the thousands and happily back their comics which also sell in the thousands. Why does this anger you so much? Why are you all such corporate shills and boot-lickers? It's sad honestly.

So you've moved the goalpost to "constantly at odds" lol

>stanley eye roll gif
>outrage fag
Okay retard

>HEAVILY PUSHED COMIC
Where was the evidence it was "heavily pushed". Hmm? Where were all the adverts for it? It was a Z list book thrown out there because the company does that with loads of titles.

And it should have sold magnitudes better compared to two random super indie comics and it didn't. That's a failure on Marvel's part; not the indie guys.

It's common knowledge that those dudes are finding huge success with their respective audiences, while many mainline writers are barley getting ahead and now being told to put their pencils down. Looks like it's garbage day.

Give it up, user. You can't argue with retards who think it's fair to compare Marvel with two indie creators who aren't even signed to a publisher. Their corporate boot-lickery is too deeply ingrained.

Get a grip.

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I mean, you're being really disingenuous because it is common knowledge how such shit books sell that aren't based on A list characters. Meanwhile plenty of indie books from creators with a strong following have been a success. You're trying to pretend there is no other examples or context to this.

So you can't provide any evidence? Why don't you get a grip.

Okay, let me spell it out for you. Squirrel Girl being made by a big publisher like makes it a huge bomb with abysmal sales. The Comicsgate comics selling less than that doesn't make them a huge bomb in comparison but it doesn't make them a breakout success story either since a truly successful indie comic usually sells far better than that. Thousands of fans is just fine for some indie thing but for something that touts itself as being better than the big industry and professing ways the industry can improve if only they follow what they say it is nowhere near the success you think it is.

Oh I know. I just like seeing them lose it. user, tell me, what is best in life?

>Coronavirus kills the whole industry
>It's SJWs fault!
What? Can somebody explain this to me?

>Meanwhile plenty of indie books from creators with a strong following have been a success.
lol are you honestly saying the books from Zach and EVS haven't been successful? Especially considering, what I've said numerous times already, they're indie creators with no publisher backing in any way, shape, or form? You can't be that stupid, user. Their projects get constantly funded in very rapid time and constantly go OVER the asking budget by very wide margins.

>The industry fuckin sucks!
Yeah, I agr-
>The way to fix it is to go back to the 90s!
Comicsgate is filled with nothing but a bunch of Boomer retards.