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Endings tier list

EEnE > KND >>> Steven Universe > Samurai Jack > Shit > Star vs > Adventure Time

Steven Universe's ending was unironically better than Samurai Jack's and was more true to the show's themes. Prove me wrong.

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>Sorry Genndy will never make anything better
Primal

I'd put Samurai Jack as even to Steven Universe at least. I thought it was pretty emotional.

uronically this

I'm sorry that they forced an ending on you when you were NEVER meant to have an ending. Nothing's wrong with having a truly-endless journey.

We have Primal. Also isn't the Switch game going to fix the ending?

Bitter Sweet endings are always shit so it will always be below SUF.

>and was more true to the show's themes.
>Gotta go back, back to the past
>He does it
>somehow this isn't part of the show themes

for what? its ending is still shit

the only ending which has been fucked up worse was Star Vs

SU ending had problems, but it didn't shit on everything the protagonist ever did.

>Gotta get back to the past!
>But I won't sacrifice the people of the future to do it!
> Unless I actually do! Whoops!
>So long to my burnt skin coated waifu, oh and EVERY FRIEND I MADE FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS I guess...

I will forever be mad.

>Oh jeez this fighting Aku thing isn't going well.
>Don't worry Jack, I just realized that I can travel through time!

AT shouldn't be on here, it didn't have an ending it just stopped randomly

its so low it shouldn't be on the list at all

>But I won't sacrifice the people of the future to do it!
Except people who joined the fight against Aku were getting rekt so either way there were going to be casualties

Samurai Jack still had a better ending than AT, easily.

Why can Ashi use her Aku given powers to travel back in time but Aku can't?

Not thousands of years worth of people though.

AT didn't have an ending, it was just cancelled

maybe in a decade there will be enough nostalgia to give it a real ending but I doubt it

How does that go against the show themes? The whole thing was built around Jack wanting to go the past and kill Aku so people won't suffer under his tyranny

The moment Tara Strong showed up as Ashi's VA I knew something would suck.

Casualties in a battle are a little different than the death of trillions upon trillions of lifeforms throughout the galaxy due to time shenanigans.

Star is still the worst

Man fuck you, Tara was not the problem in season 5.

How does Jack killing Aku invalidates the birth of those people? They would still exist but they wouldn't be interested in visiting Earth until much much later in time

I mean he literally abandons the future, skips out on defeating Aku

depending on how timelines work, and there is a lot in Jack that implies branching and possible time lines then Jack abandoned the future, he didn't save it

He's suppose to both defeat Aku in the future and then return to defeat him in the past as well, its really not the complicated

>He's suppose to both defeat Aku in the future and then return to defeat him in the past as well, its really not the complicated
Except in a lot of episodes Aku is not present when Jack found a way to go back in time

>They would still exist

Would They? Because I think an immortal demon God forming a galactic empire would have a significant effect on the populace under its rule. Aku was essentially the most important historical figure for generation upon generations, deciding who lived, who died, who worked where and offered him what. There is no guarantee that any of those familial lines are the same without his interference.

>theres fucktards ITT comparing a flawed ending to a great show to a shit ending from a shit show.

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yeah because his mission wasn't to save the future, that doesn't mean its a good thing or ok that he didn't

Why did Jack even bother helping people against Aku? You know how many times he chose helping people over trying to get back to the past?

This is the problem with the ending he left everyone in the future to die and just assumed that by time travel he could prevent the reign of Aku but this is unclear since the rules of time travel are very unclear, so from the perspective of everyone other than Jack and Ashi they disappear and Aku slaughters them all and Jack doesn't actually know one way or the other if he saved those people he met or if they are just suffering in what is now a different timeline

Aku just made his presence be known across the galaxy, they would still exist even without him. Also you just said yourself, Aku has maybe killed entire planets for not bowing down to him and Jack prevented that

A sequel miniseries is in the works for HBO Max, it was announced last year.

I'm sorry for this show getting just concluded without any other satisfactory meaning

>Jack continuously gets chances to go back in time
>Jack saves people during the last season
>final episode establishes that all those people cease to exist and he should have taken the first portal home

also
>the portal being guarded was just handwaved away

MacArthur actually was against the nuking of Japan and had urged the Allies to seek a negotiated peace with Japan, later saying that if the US had simply agreed to allow the Emperor to remain just a few months earlier (as they ultimately did anyway) they could have saved hundreds of thousands of US and Japanese lives
Just because SU ended worse doesn’t excuse you

I mean the solution to his issue just kind of falls into his lap, so that alone is incredibly anti-climatic.
As well, the whole "WITHOUT AKU I CAN'T EXIST" thing was just handled poorly and felt like it was slapped in last minute to make the ending more bittersweet.
Samurai Jack has a good concept hidden in its ending, but ultimately it needed more time in the oven that it wasn't given.

>Why did Jack even bother helping people against Aku? You know how many times he chose helping people over trying to get back to the past?
Because he's still a good guy, the fact he chose to go back to the past in the final battle against Aku was probably out of desperation especially when people were dying because of his fault

It's really hard to make a time traveling story without having some severe fuck ups in terms of narrative and consequences

I mean it's possible, you just have to establish rules (which Jack never did) and remain consistent (which Jack never did)
If you want an example of a series that did time travel well, look at early Homestuck.

No. FUCK YOU JACK!

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>out of desperation Jack condemns billions to suffer
huh I wonder why fans find this to be a bad ending for a noble warrior?

It literally feels like he gave up. He didn't triumph over evil, he sidestepped it

This

It all depends if there's no alternate timelines and killing Aku in the past erases his evil in the future but then again it shows when Aku sent Jack to the future, moments later he reappears to finish him off
It's very much like the Dexter's Ego Trip movie ending

>Aku just made his presence be known across the galaxy, they would still exist even without him.

The second episode of the show has Aku telling an alien race "lol, yeah I drained the oceans from your planet, I'll give you new lands to settle though if you build countless statues in my honor. Also, I'm a torture your prince for a bit." That's a little bit more than making your presence known. Terraforming and resettling entire species while forcing them into slave labor is gonna change some things.

>Also you just said yourself, Aku has maybe killed entire planets for not bowing down to him and Jack prevented that

This is true and if Jack actually weighed the suffering of all the people Aku hurt against all the lives of his friends and others throughout the galaxy that would actually be a real interesting debate to watch play out. It would have been really interesting to see Aku make Jack hesitate in front of a time portal by bringing that up.

But that's not what happened.

Instead, Jack's constant choice to spare the people of the future, relatively small numbers of people at that, gets shat on by the surprise death of everyone who existed as a result of Aku's influence, which would probably be 90% of the population in Aku occupied territory. And that's frankly being generous.

>maybe in a decade there will be enough nostalgia to give it a real ending but I doubt it

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The bottom line is that whether Jack decided to stay or go back to the past, there's no way to avoid the suffering billions had to go through
>Jack goes back: the people from the future would still suffer from Aku or maybe not since that timeline is deleted
>Jack stays: Aku is killed in the future but people still had to suffer to get to that point and there's a chance the death of Aku might led to someone else trying to fill that void

Sure, but when Jack gets the opportunity to make this choice, and he did THREE TIMES, he chose the future. That's why people are pissed, because the ending objectively shits on Jack's character for no good reason. It's supposed to feel like a bittersweet moment for his last minute girlfriend by the multi-generational impact of that choice makes Ashi the last thing most fans were actually thinking about. It was dumb. It was a dumb decision and even if you agree Jack should have gone back even at the cost of the future, don't you think it would be a lot more interesting if he knew what he was actually sacrificing at the time he did it?

not really, Ego Trip has a stable timeloop, there is a small bootstrap paradox but there are no events that didn't happen

in Jack either the future didn't actually happen, which it did, or Jack abandoned the future. So either we have to claim that the future, as Jack saw it, doesn't exist and never did or that Jack abandoned it, both bad answers.

su is shit but at least the ending didn't ruin the entire show like jack's did

While I agree it's dumb, if Jack chose to be selfish and go back to the past there wouldn't be show
I think it would've benefited to have at least one more episode about Jack weighting his options and making a decision

>SUF is all about Steven traumas he experienced throughout the first show coming to light
>pretty much all the episodes are about Steven going into a deep depression/madness
>all of that is resolved by a hug as if that is supposed to fix years of emotional damage

>ruin the entire show
I'm sorry? Jack was trying to get back to the past for 50 years, that IS the show.

it really wasn't

the show was about a noble warrior standing up to evil

the ending had him run from evil to fight a weaker foe instead