Jeez, what a crybaby

It's called being an hormonal teenager, you were probably like that too, or maybe you still are.

He’s the one who stirs the drink

uh yeah I doubt that unless user has serious issues
steven has definitely risen above average teenage angst

>being mad at Connie for wanting to keep her individuality and not permafuse

No, as a parent I can tell you that IS the average, you just don't notice from your own perspective. The problem Steven has is that on top of that he has superpowers and PTSD.

Of course he’s hurt, he wanted to get married, you want him to keep it inside? That’s what caused everything wrong in the first place

He's 16, he doesn't know what he wants.

He's 16, gets confused every day

that is such a load of bullshit, what kind of kids are you raising. I have never even yelled at my parents in my teenage years and that is the least of what Steven's been doing; crashing his car due to throwing a fit behind the wheel, proposing to his 16 year old gf, trying to KILL two people. get a grip.

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Pussy, every kid argues with his parents, unless of course they were abused into fear or molested

>I have never even yelled at my parents in my teenage years
Go and ask your parents how they lived that time, your perspective is bias.
Also, teens who don't rebel in any way at 16 do it when they're 20-something more often than not. Your younger years are when you usually make all the stupid mistakes you then learn to fix in adulthood.

>your perspective is bias.
no it's not, it's not like I don't remember those years. I only got into one argument with my mother and it wasn't my yelling at her like sperg Steven. my sister was different but she was nowhere near Steven and his 24/7 miserable emotional crybaby homicidal rage him trying to become Stevonnie full time is really telling of how fucked he is even before he got his self-described "vengeful thoughts."

You just summed up this entire shit show

Steven tried to kill not one, but two people in a 24 hour period, one of which was begging for their life and not even trying to hurt him.
Unless you think becoming a school shooter is the norm for teenage angst, Steven's behavior is not okay.

Dude, maybe you’re just a pussy. EVERYbody yells at their parents like a normal person going through hormones. Maybe your sister met a guy at that age she was “in love” with. You’re just not normal, man. Maybe you got molested

> it's not like I don't remember those years
Don't trust your memories, your own perception is bias. Every normal person knows that.
Of course no one is as fucked as Steven, he didn't have a normal childhood, nor is a normal person. You should compare his behaviour to kids who survive extreme situations, like violence.

Technically, that was him talking to himself as White was never in the mind thing. And Jasper and White are hardly innocent

Steven apologists need to be gassed.

Wait, what? Jasper was one, but who was the other? Did I miss an episode?

The last episode, with White Diamond.

Crap, I did miss it. Can't find a torrent, is there a mega?

>And Jasper and White are hardly innocent

Except they are. Haven't you heard of double jeapordy? You can't just pardon someone for their crimes and two weeks later barge into their home saying "You know what? I change my mind, I'm gonna execute you now."
That would be inhumane.

I don’t think you know what show this is

Definitely has it in him

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Will Connie be ok?

still don't understand why in the actual fuck steven was so ridiculously pissed over the fact that his last name came from a song that inspired his father's entire career

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Jasper did nothing wrong.

But I wish he had killed white, genocidal hitler grandma deserves it.

He’s settling for human anymore
Don’t make life choice based off a song you heard once

Gotta love how easily SUfags will turn on well beloved characters because of SUF's absolutely abysmal and out of character writing.

Can you tell me about it I could slay him with rhetoric and suggestion

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He killed Jasper and tried to kill White. They've outright made him irredeemable at this point. There is not justifying his actions just because he feels bad. Even though he was able to fix Jasper it would be like if Lars stabbed someone with a knife in rage, then managed to keep them from bleeding out. Steven went over the line and may as well have had a gun to Whites head that misfired for what it was worth. PTSD sucks though they're going a horrible way about it to paint people suffering from it as murderous time bombs.

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They like/hate whatever the writers tell them to like/hate. Look at Lars and Kevin.

Jasper was an accident and he reacted badly being around the person who ripped his Gem out. People who have been hurt are gonna react negatively to those who have hurt them.

Why is Steven so out of character in Future? He could sympathize for the Diamonds, but not Greg who made some bad decisions as a teenager?

Greg shouldn’t have said Steven had it easier

Steven had four loving parents and Greg didn't even have one.

>Don't trust your memories
that isn't fair, my parents would corroborate I was the sort of kid they would describe as "quiet" and a "good boy." compared to my sister who would drink as early as like 14. the reason I remember the argument I had with mom so vividly because it was unique. I would never give dad any reason to be mad at me he would call me his perfect little boy growing up. I don't think I was that unique of a kid too I don't think most kids have such volatile relationships with their parents maybe that's less true for females.

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Steven also nearly got killed, was kidnapped, and kinda had to talk Pearl out of suicide after she let him fall

Steven's life was unbelievably easy up until the Diamonds got involved and even then the diamonds really ended up being an extremely minor threat in the grand scheme of things. Steven's only real hardship was about a year and a half of his life. He's a fucking wuss that was sheltered his entire life and now can't deal with his changing world. He's literally like every trust fund baby that's never worked a day of their lives but still somehow find a way to be depressed.

I get your point, but Steven didn't even try to empathize with Greg, which is totally out of character.

Steven is not out of character. He has legitimate issues of his own, but he's defined himself as "the one who helps". So he cannot accept help without challenging the very core of his identity. And so his issues fester and get worse, and he lashes out at the people who'd be there to help him if only he ask.

Pretty believable depression spiral into self-destruction, imho.

Greg can barely handle being around magical shit as an adult, no way would he handle aliens trying to kill him as a child
Right now, he’s a little too pissed Greg made it a contest

>Steven's life was unbelievably easy
>Child soldier who fights literal monsters and aliens who want to destroy the earth every other week.
user, I...

Again, it's mostly your perception. But in any case, if things trully were is idealistic as you claim, you are the exception not the rule, your sister is more in line with the average teen.

Most kids aren't diddled by their "daddy" to the point where they become afraid to get angry at their parents

A kid from my high school pistol whipped his brother at a party and blew half of his jaw off when the gun went off by mistake. It was an accident he didn't mean for that to happen, but it's what happened. His brother did live lucky him.

That kid was a nutcase

We still know you abuse people.

Steven already showed extreme amounts of emotional maturity in episodes like The Test. They had to regress him in order to make this plot work.

Well he did want to become more involved with gem stuff at the start of the series

Since most of you people have autism so you have a hard time understanding anyone doing things that are not exactly what you would I would make my best to try and explain:
"Don't give me my own advice!" Steven yells, what do you thing this means? Steven has a problem, a huge one, but he doesn't like the solutions people present to him. He is now older and see some of his dad actions as irresponsable, so he feels his father no longer has the authority to guide him. He wants things to go back to how they were but everyone around him has moved forward.
And most important: He feels frustrated because everyone elses attempt to help him doesn't satisfied him. He doesn't want people telling him what he should do, but he desperately needs that. He knows he needs help, but is angry when is not the magic fix he wants. Steven will keep in this dowards spiral until he deals with the fact that he will have to face facts about himself he wont like and that fixing things will be hard and will take a long time.

Why is Steven so mad in the first place? I understand his poor coping mechanisms, but what is he trying to cope with in the first place? Is it really just him being scared of people moving on and away?

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That’s the point. That wasn’t maturity. That was him repressing his shit for the sake of others and never dealing with it. He had to be the adult because others needed him to. But now no one needs him to and he’s lost now without anyone giving him a purpose.

He "meant well" drunks tend not to use the best logic. Younger brother was shit faced but wanted to drive, older brother was trying to take his keys so he couldn't drive. Shit got heated to the point he figured he'd pistol slap him to knock him out and take his keys. Ended up just shooting him in the jaw instead. Probably would have been safer just drunk driving.

He doesn't know what to do with his life, he feels alinated because he's the only creature of his pecies (gem/human hybrid) he's directionless and frustrated because no one knows what to do with him.

>Deliberately attacks someone with a gun
>It was a mistake
Pick one

Pretty much what his dad was trying to help him figure out. The problem with PTSD is that trauma adds up to the point that you have unhealthy reactions to minor problems. The show might go the realistic route that there is no fast cure for this and he'll just need medication and years of therapy as he learns to cope.

How did this go down? Were the Diamonds just like "Okay, well gems, you don't have to be walls anymore."? Jesus christ.

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Pretty much the point I made as I compared to that Steven killing Jasper and trying to kill white. Being retarded for a moment and having a lapse in judgment isn't an excuse for how Steven is acting.

I sure hope not. Fuck that cunt.

He just hit too hard