watching season 3
>characters do nothing but walking and talking, walking and talking, walking and talking, walking and talking.
when this show start to be more like the actual castlevania series?
watching season 3
>characters do nothing but walking and talking, walking and talking, walking and talking, walking and talking.
when this show start to be more like the actual castlevania series?
Best thing to do at this point if to look at it for what it is. A horribly paced non-cannon fanfiction that Warren decided to be Game of Thrones, too much of the same degree of success.
Normies are eating this shit up, it's well received, if the games weren't already dead in the water, I'd say this is just what Castlevania is now, but luckily they croaked a while ago.
Neflixvania sucks, just stop watchin it.
Season 2 was the same. Episode after episode of talking heads, then a sudden fight at the end between characters whose relationship had never even been developed.
Never, we need to fellate the kangz and the lesbian vampire queens and fuck Alucard in the ass
Season 1 and 2 at least were short, this new one is 10 episodes long
>actual castlevania
it just borrows the name because nobody will care if it wasn't tied to a game franchise
I liked it when Lenore
The games never were particularly huge, even less now that they're dead. Dunno why they didn't just make their own thing
This begs the question, does Trevor and friend even know Issac and the rest exist?
The way the story is heading Issac and Carmilla will take each other out with the protagonist being non the wiser.
There are things I like about the show and I've liked other works by Ellis. But I don't understand why they hired a guy who never played or cared about the games and openly admitted that he based his script off of google and wikipedia. Really shows how little Konami gives a shit.
What's Iga even up to these days, wasn't he trying to make a Castlevania 3 movie a long time ago?
I remember Isaac was seen by the group on the attack to the castle but it seems they didn't give it much importance. Since at the end of S2 Sypha said she and Trevor should go to Braila I thought they would learn about Carmilla's army and that she took a human prisoner, but it seems nothing came from that
The movie was repurposed into the Netflix series, Ellis was writing it too. Iga originally helped in the production but then got fired by Konami
Unironically Isaac is carrying season 3 all by himself
Man at this point I really wish Konami would just stop pretending to be a video game company altogether
That’s weird. Does it have multiple writers aside from Warren Ellis?
Ellis is know for not writing much dialogue and letting the actions do the talking
I've been thinking the same since the new season came out, like, there has been two opportunities (first at the castle with issac and again with the portal to hell being his plan all along) now to develop some sort of relationship between our villains and our heroes but both times it just never happens. I'm starting to think that Ellis just wants the show to be about two evil forces fighting each other, it'd make some sense since the heroes keep having to sit on their ass and be very reactive to the world around them rather than actively pursuing the antagonists
You just described season 2
Okay. So it’s not just me. They lost me at the goat fucking nonsense in the first season. Warren Ellis is super kewl when you’re 13 years old, but he’s easily outgrown.
I mean, can that really be attributed to Ellis, or moreover the artists ability to capture it. Can you really say it's on the writer for a moment like that?
I don't know about that specific comic, but I think usually writers give a general idea of how many panels they want on the page and which action occurs in which etc., so I'd assume he played a role in that.
Iga is not without fault, but wish he would still be here for the good times he had with Ellis.
If only those rumors about Sony buying Castlevania were true and they gave control back to Iga
Alright, that's fair enough then. I'll give credit where it's deserved.
Season 4 will probably be Carmilla+Hector fighting some Army of Darkness cobbled together human resistance led by a reunited Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard (plus some guest character like a Carmilla-level revision of Grant) before getting slammed in the rear by Isaac and his horde. Then the last 2-3 episodes of the season might be a Dracula resurrection based off CoD's plan to use Hector to summon Dracula before giving an epilogue to Trevor and Sypha and putting Alucard to sleep.
And before I get bitched at for including Grant b/c Ellis says he hates him, why do you trust anything writers say? While Grant would have fucked up the group dynamic for the trio early on by undercutting Trevor's role as the normal human, he'll fit fine as the St. Germaine of the season who brings the news of the Styrian invasion to Dracula's castle and acting as a PoV character witnessing the slaughter.
>I'm starting to think that Ellis just wants the show to be about two evil forces fighting each other, it'd make some sense since the heroes keep having to sit on their ass and be very reactive to the world around them rather than actively pursuing the antagonists
So this while the heroes dick around? I expected better from Trevor and Sypha becoming traveling hunters
After Isaac replaced Hector as the one who was favored by Dracula, the more powerful Forgemaster, the one who defeated this era's Legion, and is also the one getting development and cool fights and shown there is kindness in humankind while Hector's just getting his ass humiliated I'm actually kinda expecting him to be the one to get a redemption of sorts and join the heroes against Carmilla. Just like Hector in CoD just wanted to murder a guy for MUH REVENGE but ended up helping save Wallachia. And yeah, Hector ends up used in the ritual to resurrect Dracula and dies instead
What were they thinking!?
>to get a redemption of sorts and join the heroes
>to resurrect Dracula
Monsterfuckers
Oh, I am expecting it to go like CoD, in CoD Isaac didn't resurrect Dracula, Zead did. And here the closest we have to him is the cultists
I mean, you can even have Isaac reject the idea because he understandood Dracula just wanted to die or some sob story shit
It's sad that they're sitting in so many great ips.
WOOOOOO!
I think the most frustrating part is that Issac and Hector would have some interesting interactions with Trevor/Sypha/Alucard, a (formerly) optimistic person like Sypha coming face to face with a human bent on his own species' genocide would make for great conflict, or maybe something like Hector trying to bargain or plead with Trevor to break him free from being a slave. All of this would be cool but the problem is that I have a strong feeling that most of these characters won't even properly meet before being killed off
>But I don't understand why they hired a guy who never played or cared about the games
That doesn't really mean anything. Some of the best adaptations were made by people who didn't give a crap about the source material.
Isaac will probably kill Hector with his knife and unintentionally/unconsciously forge his dying body into Dracula. I think Lenore will try and run away with Hector after all/most of her sisters are killed and Hector suffers from having too many conflicting demands made of him and accidentally triggering the harshest punishment from the ring. Even before she made Hector pledge his loyalty she made him pledge to run away together and the ring may be bound by that promise as well, overwriting any other authority ring.
Theres also just not much to really understand about the CV3 era such that playing the games would make a difference. The story of CV3 could be written on a bar napkin, including the three endings, and the sequel Curse of Darkness had a mostly bland story that needed to be stripped for parts and reincorporated anyways to fit a continuous narrative.
>walking and talking BAD
>boom kapow GOOD
This sounds like something a child would say, are you 12?
I like walking and talking.
What a pleasant series.
Trevor/Sypha and Hector's stories finally intersecting were what I was expecting with them going to Braila (and because Hector became a good guy in the games), someone should've taken notice of what was left of a vampire army and that they took a single human prisoner for some reason? Pretty sure we saw the people from Braila were watching them leave. Truly lost potential there
>Pretty sure we saw the people from Braila were watching them leave
I think that the writers simply forgot or just decided to move in a different (uninteresting) direction
I think they just didn't plan that well ahead, like how they had Carmilla beat the shit outta Hector for shock value even though her whole plan depends on him creating an army for her and she was the one who spoonfed us how Night Creatures work. But now they need CarmiIIa's plan to work to advance the plot in this new way and so we had to go through the whole "Hector gets his dumb ass manipulated" shit again but with Lenore. At least this season revealed Carmilla is the kind of idiot to make those mistakes I guess?
Funny cause I remember Shankar saying he had the whole thing planned out when S1 was released, because it doesn't really seem like it
>Shankar saying he had the whole thing planned out when S1 was released
That's definietly BS, there isn't a consistent flow for that to be the case, can't wait for this man to fuck with DMC next
>What's Iga even up to these days
Bloodstained came out last year dude, goddamn
Carmilla did mention at the end of S2 that the Brailans had their own dead to take care of and houses to rebuild so they may not have actually paid attention to Hector at all (rewatching the scene from S2E8, most townsfolk hid inside and may not have even seen him among the horse, just from before when he was waiting for Carmilla). Plus by the time word from Brailla, the easternmost Wallachian city, would have gotten to the heroes traveling west (?) from god-knows-where (Gresit is fictional and the Belmont hold isn't given a location), Carmilla would have been most of the way to Austria/Styria.
Carmilla beating Hector makes sense because she's a stupid and cruel schemer who already lost Hector's trust by blackmailing him after he betrayed Dracula under her manipulation. She had no way to take him with her but by force at that point.
And Hector is literally too sweet/naive to be unsupervised with others and had already been manipulated by Dracula before even meeting Carmilla, so a cute, sweet talking, redheaded honeypot vampiress that actually understands him and (IMO) cares for him is just a cosmically cruel opponent for Hector. But I think S4 will contain Lenore's care for Hector overtaking her duty to her sisters, leading to a shortlived runaway romance between her and Hector before Isasc takes them both in a truly tragic fashion.
Even if they didn't see Hector, a vampire army it's something most people would notice. It's just feels weird they had Sypha specifically mention they're they're going to Braila, where we know something big happened, and then do nothing with it.
When it comes to Carmilla taking Hector, I feel force was not really necessary at all. He didn't run away when the sun was up and the vampires were hidden, he didn't forge monsters from the bodies at Braila, it's clear he didn't feel Carmilla would harm him and was even affably talking with her. He was feeling completely lost, and since we already know his gullible levels are off the charts just promise the dude dead puppies at Styria and he would have probably followed her on his own.
Maybe it's just me but I didn't feel Carmilla was established as being THAT astronomically stupid until S3, I liked Lenore but at the same time I feel we didn't need to make the cast bigger and just Carmilla would've worked just fine had the writer not made her go full retard at the end of S2, hell, there's even concept art with Carmilla being the one at the dungeon instead of Lenore
Why is that Carmilla and her sisters aren't even a bit curious about who killed Dracula and what happened to his castle? Someone killed the king of vampires and you might think that they should be a bit concerned if that could be an obstacle for their plans.
She shat bricks when people mentioned a Belmont was still alive and about the Belmont Hold, was even present when Isaac mentioned Alucard was at Gresit when the Belmont was there. But it seems she forgot about all that already too
I mean, in a shattered and blood soaked Wallachia, the only people capable of standing a chance against Carmilla's army were a drunk with a whip, a magic gypsy, and the son of the guy who was committing genocide a few minutes ago. And the masses had little idea that these people did anything to stop Dracula.
Carmilla only took the losses she did because she had to go through an untouched Transylvania.
She has to know it was Alucard and the last Belmont. I don't know why she isn't more concerned about them or proactive in telling Striga that they may still be around, but the bitch has to know.
>walking
ok so it's a good Castlevania adaptation.
Good user
Butthurt faggot that hates his dad and proyected into Alufag
heck the entire power vacuum is something every damn human and vampire on earth should be worried about.
now is a arms race to take over the world
There's not just one power vaccum, there's like 7, one for each dead general plus Dracula. Wallachia, Scandinavia, Japan, India, Tibet, Russia, and Germany.
The only being capable of consolidating that massive amount of chaos is Death (who I think has been guiding Isaac in a myriad of forms) or a resurrected Dracula.
I mean it's a video game series about killing monsters, it could use a bit more action.
Alucard's a faggot!
Yes, to the surprise of all, the dandy, pretty boy half-vampire with daddy issues took it up the ass once.
So how did the village head get away with killing so many children?
And why is hector such a massive retard?
First carmila makes him her bitch with a few words and now lenore throws him a bone and he gets tricked in to being her slave.
I'm still sticking to the theory that the writers forgot, it's the only thing that makes sense unless vampires have short term memories.
Lenore said this season that "vampires never forget" when she talked to Hector about the water pipes in the Styria and Dracula's castle. Carmilla just got hit with the stupid stick too hard so Ellis can wank his OCs, that's why she's now just a kooky schemer while her sisters make shit happen.
Not unlikely. They may have an ending in mind that needed her to forget after the march or be more shortsighted and cruel than practical. I do think that after S1 they plotted alot of S3 and S4, but more structurally than fully fleshed out. They knew Carmilla would invade Wallachia, they knew she would get Hector, but the connections they ended up making in the writing room after S2 were just meh. Not great but not nonexistent beforehand.
This Carmilla is Ellis's OC as much as Isaac is, though. OG Carmilla would never betray Dracula, she's only 2nd to Death in his fanclub.
Plus he just gave us the lesbians for Isaac to kill off next season, which will start Carmilla's ruin and Lenore wanting to run away with Hector for real.
video game alucard's whole character is that he's a brooding volcel with nothing on his mind except protecting humanity and fulfilling his mother's dying wish. if he took it up the pooper he'd prolly just imagine her disappointment and then khs