Could Superman actually beat Goku in a fight or not?

Archie Sonic stomps

>friendly spar
nah it should be a proper match, in front of a live audience, with ring-out. and no killing blows. all proceeds go to charity.

>who would win
The writer
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>why?
Because comics characters fights are based on an aspect determinied at the preference of the writer and who he think is going to win without even caring about a continuity of power level.
Even if the writer makes people vote who wins is still going to be the writers decision that matters because as Marvel vs DC taught us the writer has still more power
Think at Garth Ennis' Punisher
You know that he wrote Punisher defeating and humiliating Wolverine? You know that according to Garth Ennis Wolverine can't heal from a shotgun in the face or can't regenerate his leg in less than a minute or his claws can't even touch the Punisher?
Did he cared about what Wolverine's powers were?
No.
Because he is someone who really doesn't care about continuity as he is more interested in the characters he prefers.
He liked Punisher more than Wolverine.
So who would win between Goku and Superman?
Who is writing who.
Maybe we could have a writer who has an hateboner for Superman has Frank Miller had in the first years and he writer something like
>Superman turns into Super-Golden Composite Thought Robot Silver Age Powers x Infinity Control of Endless and Emotional Spectrum Sun Dipped by 1 Octilion of Blue Super Suns-Man that gets killed by Goku's pinky and Gou didn't even noticed it.
Or maybe we get a Goku hater that writer
>Goku turns into Goku-Omni God SSJ Infinity x Infintiy x Octilions of Super Gods of Super Ultra Gods Powers Of Zeno Fused with Zeno and Mr Popo's Powers x Infinity Fused With all the God Of Destructions and Angels of The Universe and Total Control of Super Dragon Balls and Control Oozaru LSSJ Infinity Powers and....Superman defeats him with his pinky and he doesn't even notice.
So...the writer is always the real winner

Knowing Goku gets a free powerup by fighting opponents stronger than him, I think the saiyan will win due to better Gary Stu powers.

Sonic the Hedgehog. He's written as a shonen character and gets visibly stronger in each game.

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Superman.
Literally just read the fucking comics online. You don't need to buy them.
Stop asking this stupid fucking question all the god damn time. Stop having people spoonfeed you their poorly educated opinions on the matter just because you don't actually read comics.
Stop being a forum tourist.

>Superman
So superman beats superman in a Goku vs Superman? That’s a weird outcome

No but DIO can.

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no

>superman gets slammed into walls and the ground
>gets up like it's nothing
>goku gets slammed into walls and the ground
>almost fucking dies
LMAO

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>Literally just read the fucking comics online. You don't need to buy them.
cancer.txt

DB characters just aren’t consistent enough. Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a single attack. His PL was maybe 200 at the time. At the level Goku and his boiz fight at now, the shockwave from a single energy blast should take out a couple planets atleast

Ki Control

it depends by the speed

I feel like this is just a handwave from fans to explain away power inconsistencies. At most, better control of ki means not burning through it nearly as much, something that Vegeta used in the manga when he switched between god forms.

Reminder that Goku hasn't won a single fight on his own since Frieza.

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Superman can fly "faster than imagination" sometimes.

But why? Goku isn't famous, and nobody really knows how powerful he is or anything. Who turns up for The World's Strongest Being versus Some Metahuman/Alien Radish Farmer?

Could anyone even think to scratch Elder God-King Vendrick in his prime?

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What if Mr Satan supports Goku?

Only Gwyn, before he split his soul and gave it to a bunch of losers.

>Gwyn
he can get parried, you can't possibly be serious here.

Meanwhile zombie Vendrick rips you a new one if you're hiding behind a havel shield. Just imagine what he does in his prime.

Yes.

what else is there to talk about? Owl House turned out to be a massive disappointment, Mao Mao is on quarentine, new Invader Zim is only next month, Hazbin Hotel is fucking trash.

Remember that Mr Satan will win every fight if there is an audience

And Superman flying faster than light should destroy the fucking Earth's surface everytime.
We just have to accept that fiction character do not destroy because they have exceptionnal control or whatever reasons.

>superman moves fast and is careful not to cause any harm to people when he does it
>goku shoots his most powerful attack in god form downward at golden frieza and somehow earth is still in one piece

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>Goku and Superman team up to save the world
>Goku's power is on display to the world, new guy in town sort of stuff
>A bunch of people around the world debating their fight
>Finally someone brings up a charity event like the flash races, only it's a martial arts match with ring-out or knockout
>Mr. Satan is there as a guest judge/ref
>They fight with a massive audience, gets extremely intense
>Goku's a challenge but Superman manages to overpower him
>Massive explosion of debris and smoke obscuring the final clash
>He's standing outside of the arena, bruised, over Goku's unconscious body
>Only man standing in the broken arena is Hercule
>Declared official world champion over Goku and Superman

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Who cares

Sonic is unironically the incarnate equivalent of and Endless in his setting

Even if you are careful, you can't negate the friction when going lightspeed (Flash does with speedforce , but not other heroes).

majin buu would make superman his bitch. he literally self-destructs to blow up planets then reforms and moves on to the next one. he wiped out the entirety of humanity on the planet with one attack. he can absorb people. there's literally nothing in superman's arsenal that could stop him.

and goku beat him. therefore goku can beat superman.

Superman’s beaten tougher

In an actual fight? No.

Superman>Supaman>Arale>Goku

Reminder that Yamcha defeated a God of Destruction at baseball

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Super saiyan aura has the same effect as natural sunlight. If Goku powers up he'll just supercharge Superman

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like who? has anyone that superman beat been able to reform like buu? buu was literally turned to smoke and could still come back. he was nearly invulnerable. and if you were too strong for him to beat, he'd absorb you, like mystic gohan and vegeto. possibly the toughest baddy in fiction.

This

Its basically just two characters who get just as powerful as they need to win.

Real question is would Superman even want to fight Goku?

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Imperiex, the embodiment of Entropy, just needed a quick sundip.

Goku keeps letting Frieza go and Frieza keeps genociding people. Eventually Superman might have had enough of that shit.

Why are we having this thread every single day?

All locked in due to corona, we've exhausted all other topics

Superman beat Lobo. Lobo just needs a drop of blood to regenerate. Hell, he cane regenerate a whole army if he wants to

Ultra Instinct settles it.

Superman is fast, but he's not faster than 0

>Real question is would Superman even want to fight Goku?
Goku is pretty lenient with people who genocide other people, so long as they’re strong. I can see Superman fighting Vegeta and Freeza

lol saitama is better than both of them forever
lol
>ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PUUUUUUUUUUNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>Ultra Instinct settles it.
You mean like how he couldn’t even beat Jiren?

>Goku didn't beat Jiren

user...

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>and goku beat him. therefore goku can beat superman.
Goku didn’t beat Majin Buu. He needed the entire Afterlife to led him energy because he couldn’t beat him at SSJ3, even though stamina stopped being an issue

UI has zero concrete feats. Superman’s out of the Solar System while Goku is stuck on Earth

>had help from Freeza and 17
kek. Thanks for proving my point

Superman needed Batman, Wonderwoman and to fucking die in order to beat doomsday

>Using DCEU
Kek

I don't watch cartoons

>Real question is would Superman even want to fight Goku?
Goku has endangered multiple universes to force people to fight him, he wouldn't give Superman the choice of not fighting.

Sure looks like Goku getting help beating Jiren. Even his UI form beforehand was given by a bunch of help, from the spirit bomb empowering him to Frieza and Vegeta giving him energy and time to recover. Something people seem to gloss over is that Jiren was basically running on one stamina/health bar, he never had healing or someone giving him energy, and by the end was constantly fighting without tagging with someone else while everyone else was swapping and recovering until multiple people barely pushed him off the arena.

Or read comics. So you don’t belong here or know anything about what you’re talking about.

I just like dbz

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Go back to Yas Forums or just stay out of talking about powerlevels if you don’t know shit about the other side

So why aren’t you on Yas Forums?

>frieza is a good guy now
Jesus remember when everyone though GT was the worst thing in dragonball

Someone posted this here

He aided them in exchange for Goku resurrecting him. After their next fight Goku let him go and he celebrated by blowing up a civilisation

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Not a good guy, just temporarily allied since losing the tournament would mean complete erasure of all existence for their universe, including afterlife and souls, and in exchange he was brought back to life. He's currently building up his empire and is the reason the Broly movie happens, definitely still evil, just being smarter about it now. He's the best part of the ToP.