Would it have been a success if the name was different?

Would it have been a success if the name was different?

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High level movie executive questions like that are beyond me, user.

wow she looks awful

Aquaman and Wonder Woman
>good looking suits
>made money
Birds of prey and Shazam
>ugly looking suits
>didn't made money

simple

I was going to see it when it hit the theatres here but then well

No one cares about that faggot movie with the 200 lbs makeup crackhead lookin Margot Robbit

Nah. A PG13 rating probably would've made a big difference, though.

birds of and the fantabulous emancipation of one harley quinn prey?
what the hell does that even mean?

no, the name had nothing with how bad it was.

It having a different name wouldn't had saved it when the trailer was absolute trash.

Not really. Trying to hype it purely as Birds of Prey has little brand awareness on it's own. Hyping it purely as the Harley Quinn grrl power-hour might have brought more attention, but reminded people of what a piece of crap Suicide Squad was. Going with both seems what they thought was best of both worlds and have a weird enough title that didn't sound generic like 'Edge of Tomorrow'.

The main problem was that every bit of promotional material was off-putting, like getting cheap stripper cards from skeevy run-down strip clubs in Vegas.

>Birds of Harley Quinn Prey
That's a great title, OP. It's the reason the movie made so much money in the first place.

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No.
Suicide Squad wasn't well received by most audiences. They have the money, and they probably don't want to see what effectively looked like a sequel to that movie. Also, the virus thing happened.
Honestly, I think keeping the movie title as Birds of Prey and keeping Harley Quinn a secret would have helped. Distancing itself from Leto Joker would have helped it to some degree.

this means men bad and it's gonna do better than joker *fails to surpass sonic the hedgehog*

yeah, would have made many times its budget if it were named "Captain America IV"

should've made Joker the villain to shit on his supposed badassery that comic book geeks have internalized into pop culture.
that would've been better and more impactful that muh R rated bad gurl movie

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In the 2000’s it would’ve been laughed off stage like Catwoman or Daredevil, but that was before studios could exploit online activism and disguise their turds as being “empowered”

if i can change the title of your least favourite movie, book, or game, would you still bother to consume it?

Nah, The costumes look like shit even for normies

A movie about Joker and Harley's breakup that also introduces a few characters like Montoya and Black Canary, assuming it was good, would have made Harley enough of a draw to headline a movie, while also removing some of the writing pressure of having to introduce a bunch of new characters.
That's really the greatest flaw on Birds of Prey: it was an overstuffed movie that had too many responsibilities. If they had just made a rip off of Leon and focused on building good chemistry between Harley and the orphan (who didn't have to be Cassandra at all), this could have been an okay film.

They might have done that if Jared Leto wasn't a fucking retarded method actor.

The best description I've heard for it is that it felt like the result of splicing together three mediocre movies. No part of it rose all the way to be "good," and trying to put all those different things in there just weakened the individual parts.

Jesus, you could pick something from the first few years of Dixon's run and get a better plot for a Birds of Prey movie. You could make a movie about Harley just trying to figure shit out while Joker was "missing" and it'd be a great movie. This was a fucking layup, and they botched it.

Maybe if Harley was attractive and not an old roastie it would have been more successful

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Based retard

>shazam
>didn't make money
You sure, user?

It failed due to the coronavirus.

Yep, by Marvel-hater Math, making a hundred million dollar film, and then marketing it, and only grossing double the budget + marketing is making no money.
It was essentially making a few million dollars a weekend before Coronachan was even making big news in the US. It wasn't getting a China release in the first place.

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This. Making a Harley Quinn movie R-rated was idiotic

>DC movie is good only if it makes moneys
Snyder's vision died for your Marvelite movies

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Neither Snyder nor the ladies behind BoP were trying to make profound movies.
Snyder just wanted to be another Lucas, a purveyor of brainless spectacles that amassed piles of money. He produced movies that were intended to appeal to what he himself saw as an audience of dimwits.
It's only your 'tism that convinces you it was a subliminal masterpiece.
You about to launch into one of your long-winded Snyder diatribes?

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This movie had so many things working against it
>Spin-off of Suicide Squad
>R-rated so teens and kids can't see it
>No china release
>No one knows who Birds of Prey are except DC fans
>DC fans hated that they replaced Batgirl with Harley and they totally fucked up Cassandra Cain
>Girl power
>Corona
It'll probably still break even tho after VOD and blu-ray sales

It would have been a success if it wasn't associated with Suicide Squad and dumped in early February with minimal marketing.

Snyder had an actual vision.
He knew the characters from comics and he knew what to do with them, BOF just wanted to be bad and stupid without the actual director wanting it to be like that.
Snyder actually managed to make it works in the universe he created

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Isn't it usually 2.5 x budget to break even?

they should have dropped the facade and just made it a Harley Quinn movie
the BOP where practicly useless background characters

All Corona did was shave off $20 million dollars from the back end. This movie opened before much anyone cared about Corona outside of Asia, and steadily and regularly dropped every weekend. Bloodshart was ruined by Corona, this was not.

>He knew the characters from comics

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Well, he knew Clark and Bruce's moms had the same name....
And he knew that Gotham City and Metropolis are divided by a coast....

>He knew the characters from comics
this is the same guy that kept insisting Batman killed people in Dark Knight Returns and to this day still doenst get what Watchmens theme was
Snyder was a complete brainlet

Wowwwwwwww
He also knew Jimmy Olsen was CIA and Lex Luthor was a neurotic boy with father abuse issues!

>this is the same guy that kept insisting Batman killed people in Dark Knight Returns
That mutant with splatted head can still be intended as killed.
But since All Star Batman and Robin is canon if Millerverse that Batman really killed

>That mutant with splatted head can still be intended as killed.
Go to bed Zack.

Nobody wants to see an empowered white woman
She’s white

>That mutant with splatted head can still be intended as killed.
explicitly stated he survived
hell that was one of the main themes of the book, that while Batmans methods got crueler he never had the nerve to kill not even the Joker

Zack only looks at pictures.

No one ever said if the mutant was killed or stated if she survived

It's left ambiguous because it's the point.
It's up to the reader to think if that mutant was killed or non-killed, and Snyder choose to be one of the ones that thinks Batman killed the mutant

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>later in the book Yindel states all the charges Batman will be handed
>no murder
again
he didnt kill anybody

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also
>Batman explicitely uses rubber bullets
>Batman himself states he didnt kill anyone and killing the Mutant leader would ''cross a line he drew himself 30 years ago''
its not ''up for debate''
Batman killed no one in TDKR because that would go against one of the books main themes
but yeah keep believing Batman killed this one random mutant uncerimoniously

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No, but would have performed a bit better

>all those unchecked boxes
Yikes

>He knew the characters from comics

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No. Rarely are films about women successful, especially in male dominated areas.

Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman were succesful and Black Widow will be as well.
A Harley movie would've been succesful if it had been a Harley movie instead of Birds of Prey.
At least that's what I think: I still haven't watched the movie but every review says that Robbie's pretty much the only good thing about it and every thread about it has been to shit on how every other character looks like shit or is out of character.
It was just bogged with extra bullshit. Classic DC problem. If they'd just tell a simple, straightforward story they'd make money -as proven by the little, straightforward stories they made, that made money.

>Snyder had an actual vision.
Yeah, all muted colors, dark grays and blacks. Dude has the "vision" of a chuuni middle schooler.

>I-I-It was the title, guys. It's too long and complicated and doesn't have a colon in it.

This is some next-level cope.

Go woke, go broke

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No, could be a success if they they loyal to comics. with great fights scenes and hot actresses

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>He knew the characters from comics and he knew what to do with them
AHAHAHAHAHAHOOOOOOOOOOOAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO

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Isn't a movie about class warfare woke as well? Or by woke you mean "It has girls"?

>Implying proggies care about class warfare