Can we finally agree that Steven Universe/Future is one fo the greatest cartoons of all time?

It wasn't Greg's fault for not being able to handle the same thing as Steven. Steven is to blame as much as Greg.

>explores deep subject matter
>amazing animation
>complex and nuanced characters
>deconstructs problematic elements seen in kid’s TV shows

I like it a lot and it improves upon the base show that I already really loved. My only issue is that it's a mere twenty minutes long.

I really wish that episode didn’t do Greg likes that. Even besides that he did try to give Steven as normal childhood as possible by building him his own house and being there for him.

Minutes? Episodes. Episodes is what I meant.

Thank you, fuck nu-steven hes such an unlikable cunt.

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>terrible, trannycore thread
>EEB2A38E
Every time.

All fields.

It’s only eleven minutes long

Yeah sorry, mistyped. I -WISH- each ep was twenty minutes long but damn they're doing a lot with just 11 especially in this second half.

LOOK AT THIS FOOL
LOOK AT THIS FOOL AND LAUGH

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You’re the only sane person in this thread. SU is based

>t. Buttmad loudfag

Greg is a nice guy but an iressponsible father. Suck it up.

>but God damn what the fuck was that episode?
You’ll have to be more specific. That’s been my past reaction for the past few episodes.

Steven shouldn't lashed out for being so unaware about the fact that Greg didn't enjoy how he was raised. That's what I didn't like about Future's pacing compared to the original series. Steven didn't care if he was human or Gem, and was himself. Now the nigga is stupidly narcissistic.

Why would a Loudfag be mad at you? Their show shits all over yours viewership wise and they cucked you out of an Emmy.

>built a house for his son
>offered as much support as he can for Steven’s unusual situation
>Mr. Universe shits an all that
Fuck Future

He lashed out because Greg was saying Steven was better off when he knows Steven got really mentally fucked up. Meatloaf and curfews beats people trying to kill you

Having an existential crisis =/= being narcissistic. I don't know how came to that conclusion.

You can make the same claim for Greg's parents for not giving him more freedom, get over it.

>Steven didn't care if he was human or Gem, and was himself. Now the nigga is stupidly narcissistic.
Sums up my frustration with this new season/epilogue/miniseries

I'm so fucking sick of Steven Trannyverse. I'm sick of seeing like 10 threads about this one goddamn show. Fuck off Yas Forumsmblr, just fuck off already. I wish SUfags would just get quarantined into their own board like horsefags and stop drowning out actual cartoon discussion and genuinely entertaining threads with endless faggotry about your gay gem waifus invented solely to brainwash a generation of impressionable kids into faggotry while appealing to adults trying to get on their high horse when really they just have a lesbian fetish. And I'm not even going to bother with the Channel shit, everyone already knows how much SUfags take pleasure in shitting up the board for shits and giggles
>lul u mad? shut up Yas Forums beleef in Steben
Yes I am mad. Fuck SU threads, fuck Rebecca Sugar (and her fujo pedo bullshit) and fuck you retarded faggots. Praising this shite for being a masterpiece and all that makes you sound exactly like horsefags when they call their show a flawless mix of drama and comedy. God I am so fucking sick of this

How would that prepare him for the fact that he’s half alien?

>Never took him to the doctor
>Made him sleep in a van for the first decade of his life because he was poor
>Fed him whatever he wanted instead of a balanced diet

I could go on. user, Amethyst literally says "your dad is a mess" to Steven in episode 2 and she's absolutely right. Nobody is saying Greg is a bad GUY but as a father he is absolutely flawed.

Read my post again, he went through thick and thin as a child and was fine with being himself, now he's living free and is trapped within his own box. I don't know how you didn't get that.

Fine with being himself when people needed him yes. Now he has nothing to do and no one to help.

Because he’s kinda lost right now and it’s kinda pissing him off. Before he had to be a Crystal Gem, now that’s kinda over and he doesn’t know what to do anymore and being a teacher, gardener, fusion, warrior, all keeps failing.

He can help himself.

He doesn’t like to deal with himself

>I could go on. user, Amethyst literally says "your dad is a mess" to Steven in episode 2 and she's absolutely right. Nobody is saying Greg is a bad GUY but as a father he is absolutely flawed.
Except the rest of the series showed that she was wrong and had no room to be talking herself. It’s like people ignored the rest of the series and just watched Future

>Lol just stop having problems
Good insight user.

The only episodes where Steven is even remotely negative to others were Snow Day and Mr Universe. That's two out of sixteen.

If only the writing, pacing and character interactions were as good as the lore and nuance. No matter how hard the show tries at making its realistic and complex, they never go beyond being cartoon characters.

Every heard the phrase "it takes one to know one"? Amethyst and Greg were close once. She knows how he operates, that's why they were friends in the first place.

The entire series is about how everyone is flawed

The whole Jasper part didn't help either. He failed making her comprehend that he isn't Pink Diamond, and this just makes things worst. I fucking love this show, but this will never be the same love that I had for it when Jailbreak released.

He's did it in 3 of 15 Future episodes, he even did it against White Diamond.

To be fair it's kind of hard to maintain the same love for something over the course of six years even if you're hyper autistic like me

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>Jailbreak was 5 years ago
Christ, maybe I am overexagerrating a bit.

>Never took him to the doctor
How would any doctor be able to figure out human alien hybrid? The Gems never understand human kind to begging with.
>Made him sleep in a van for the first decade of his life because he was poor
And he used all his money to build Steven a house and provided for him financially.
As a matter of fact shouldn’t the blame fall on the gems too?

SUF is just The Last Jedi to the original SU.

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None of this is an argument

Yes both the gems and Greg are at fault for raising Steven. They're not bad people but they can't give him what he truly needs.

>deconstruction for the sake of deconstruction
>treads all over the development built up over time from the original
>provides unsatisfying answers to some questions had
Holy shit that is an apt comparison if I ever saw one

theyre trying their best

Who can? He’s an alien hybrid who’d also half human. I’d say they did pretty fucking well with what they were given

THAT IS THE POINT THO

Like how does a show purposely doing a thing and you feel the emotions they want you to feel make the show bad?

They made him a jerk that acts out, it is called a character arc , there is still 4 episodes left for him to come to terms with his new behavior

You have to do some serious leaps in logic to think that's even remotely close to being true. In fact it sounds like you're trying to gaslight yourself into thinking it is.

>lying on the internet

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I don’t get it; was Greg ever a good father or was he shit all along and Mr. Universe was wake up call to the knucklehead fans?

>Nuh uh, you’re wrong, you’re lying to your self! Because I said so!
Christ when did SU fags get this insufferable?

Good for the emotional stuff when Steven was a kid. Not much beyond that.

Greg was a mixed bag of a father. Beyond that just draw your own conclusions.

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he was good

This whole thread is filled with people trying cheerlead for SU

Those are generally called "fans" user. They're not lying about liking something to spite you.

Care to expand further on your points?

In a series where everyone is a fuck up, you kind of hope for at least one adjusted person to keep from getting depressed

>Those are generally called "fans" user. They're not lying about liking something to spite you.
Ha ha.
What next? The voices are lying to me? Yeah right.

There’s a difference between fans and defending the show as other just being too stupid to get it.

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Are you suggesting that you're delusional? Because you may be.

>Future managed to ruin this in the span of one episode

Peridot? Bismuth? Pearl? Connie? Volleyball? Those are just off the top of my head.

Some people are too stupid to get basic points in a children's cartoon and they absolutely deserve to be called out on that.

You also have to remember that he financially supported Steven and he’s where Steven got his empathy from.
I feel we’ve gone right back to the early seasons of not giving him credit.

ahem

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>Peridot? Bismuth? Pearl? Connie? Volleyball? Those are just off the top of my head.
How in the fuck are any of these people well adjusted?

Ha. The voices told me you'd say that.

Sure as long as you motherfuckers quit flooding the board. SU should be moved to /trash/.

That's what I mean. Greg did everything you were supposed to but even then there is no such thing as a perfect first time parent. You ARE going to fuck up and no matter how hard you try that's on you.

Explain how they're not.