I miss George Bush

Bit more concerned about the deadly virus desu.

It'll pass.

>Trump mired in scandals
>DNC a shitfest
>Only one man can heal the nation and take the 2020 election

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No, but the problem is the Trump makes it TOO easy, to the point where a lot of people are just sick of hearing it. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some people want him out purely to kill the meme that has been his presidency.

Not really. Americans were going to hand over their rights whether it was 9/11, 4/20, 3/27 or any other date to associate with some incident that made them feel scared. They're doing it now.
The American people have been becoming more dependent on the government and willing to give their rights in exchange for social benefits since WW1. Good or bad isn't what I'm here to judge, but American normies unironically hate the freedom their ancestors gave them.

i miss kyle

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I do not.

Why? You’re retarded

>9/11 didn’t change everything, because it could have happened on another date
We’re obviously referring to the terrorist attack and not the fucking number configuration of the calendar date, you fucking fool

That's what they said about Bush at the time. Trump is such a shit president you're even looking at Bush jokes with rose-tinted glasses.

only the east and west coast, middle america is ok

he is going to get slaughterd

kek Copius Retardus Faggotus

It honestly could go either way. The 2018 elections were a bad sign and coronavirus might eliminate the economic gains Trump has made but Biden is somehow a more awful candidate than Hillary and Bernie supporters are pissed that the DNC yet again did everything in their power to make the shitty establishment candidate the nominee.

I know, I'm using other dates to say it didn't have to be THAT terrorist attack, it could have been anything that caused panic in the US.

I already replied, but I’m still seething from the sheer stupidity and self-worship of this post. The idea that you actually thought you were making an important correction to someone who said the wrong thing, and your big idea is ‘uh actually it was a problem because it was a terrorist attack, not because it was in September’, and to write a whole fucking paragraph like you’ve got some smartass wisdom over people who say 911 was impactful, by deluding yourself into thinking they don’t understand because they believe it is the September-ness that made it so difficult

>DNC a shitfest
People keep repeating this but it's really not though. Berniebros being butthurt that normal people are not getting on board the crazy socialist bandwagon and people overwhelmingly voting for biden is the exact opposite.

You said 9/11 didn’t actually change everything because it could have been on a different date, which it wasn’t. The sheer arrogance to take the common name for the world-changing terrorist attack, and correct the person who said it by pretending he was referring to the date and not the terrorist attack, is so far beyond useful logic, that the only reason you’d say it is to get one over on people for correctly referring to the moment in history

Biden is still a weak candidate and may easily lose the election. Looking at how the DNC presented people like Bloomberg, they act like a mess of incompetent imanipulators

I can't believe you've spent three posts seething over a point you obviously missed.

What makes the coming election particularly interesting is that Trump can shift blame for the economy entirely on the pandemic, pointing out that the pandemic and actions taken to curb it would have massive negative impacts on the economy regardless of economic policy. That's not really something that has ever happened before in regards to economic downturns during election years.

>Biden is still a weak candidate
Pulling in record primary voting in florida, winning states like Arizona without spending a dollar. His weakest point is his age, but at this point people would rather have a comatose 80 year old than 4 more years of trump.

Because you said ‘no’ to someone who said 9/11 changed everything, only to insist people don’t realize 9/11 was impactful because it was a terrorist attack and not because of the date. You’re so far up your own ass, you actually think you need to correct people for referring to the attack as 9/11 because you think they don’t think it could have happened on another date

No I mean against Trump, Biden is not a stellar contender for the actual race, and is going to be very vulnerable to attack while being unable to argue against a lot of what trump says

Keep telling yourself that. The numbers say biden is very popular so I'm believing those.

That’s fine. It’ll be fine if he wins, I’m not saying any of this out of spite or support for other candidates, he’s just growing senile and has a political record trump could easy attack in a way that turns people off to him

>being unable to argue against a lot of what trump says
Literally who gives a shit about that? Trump's fanbase has dwindled down to the core fanatics after four years of exposure to him. The only people who care about not being able to respond to an argument that fat retard has are people who already made up their minds to vote for him.

I’m not really trying to start a political argument, but there are lots of quiet trump supporters who are the same republicans as always. I don’t really know though, it’s just true there’s an entire genre of people who still fiercely ignore liberal hegemony and media

Make that four posts lmao

>I’m not really trying to start a political argument, but there are lots of quiet trump supporters who are the same republicans as always.
What are you basing this on? You clearly have this belief, but where is this coming from? The man has generated a lot of bad blood with all the Americans and small American businesses and particularly the farms he has hurt in the past four yeas. The places where you would normally find "quiet" supporters for Republicans are the places that have been damaged directly by him the most and they're not stupid enough to believe otherwise.

>The numbers say
And what did the numbers say last time? I'm not a Trump supporter or even American, but you'd have to be pretty retarded to treat polls as gospel at this point. I don't think you need be concerned though, if your choices are Trump or Biden the outcome is not going to be much different either way. They're both establishment swamp creatures now.

Oh and, again this is not to be argumentative, disrespectful of the campaign or rude, but just because Trump sucks does not turn Republicans into Democrats

Ah, government bad.

Anarchy is much better.

Well, lucky you, that is where you're headed.

>muh both sides
Don't be so disingenuous. We're literally in a thread that's nostalgic for Bush because of how much of a bigger establishment whore Trump managed to be. Biden might be an establishment whore as well, but he's still a significant downgrade in that regard. Biden would have never given Israel as many free passes as Trump has, and that's by American "I will criminalize boycotts against Israel" standards!

I know people who support Trump, either out of spite for Democrats, and the same reasons they did originally when he was allegedly unelectable in 2016. We can no longer be confident people are unelectable based on their public reputation since 2016 proved that wrong. Again I don’t say this in support of Trump

I'm sorry but what you wrote is literal nonsense and completely irrelevant. Not every Republican likes Trump, not every Republican hates Biden, and you're assuming conversion of Republicans rather than Independents and fence-sitters is the goal. I don't believe you have done your research in this regard.

You can't pretend that things are exactly the same as 2016 based on an anecdote. It is actually insane to suggest people's impressions of the man would not change after four years of seeing him in power. Look at the Blue Wave. Democrats had the largest gain in the House since Nixon. That's not normal. That's a direct reaction to the president.

Hey look man, like I said we’ll see. Trump won in 2016 and he was a literal Nazi being filmed pissing on Russian prostitutes by Putin at the time. Even if it’s incoherent and bizarre, there are still non-consensus beliefs prevailing over huge areas of the voting population, maybe more than ever.

Sure. Could go either way. But if I were running things I would be extremely reluctant to call this ‘settled’

I don't, I'm Iraqi his stupidity is a lot less funny from this end.

>Biden is somehow a more awful candidate than Hillary

Don't see how. Hillary would've gone out of her way to make the country and the world a worse place. Biden just seems like he's suffering dementia. Not the best thing to have, but he's harmless whilst Hillary is a stone cold madwoman.

Also things are EXTREMELY like 2016. We have an aging establishment democrat picked for an apparent destiny to be president, whose main argument for winning is that Trump CAN’T win, trying to earn the favor of the highly split democratic voters after a series of uneasy moves in the primaries, relying on an asserted consensus from an often distrusted media to be true for the entire voter base. It’s just not that different, and whatever extra loss of reputation Trump has now isn’t much more than what he had in 2016.

Not the guy you're replying to, but I don't think equivalence can be drawn between Biden and Hillary as candidates. Hillary was considerably more toxic to voters than Biden, with all her historical baggage and being married to Bill.

Democrats are designed to keep Republicans in power. In cases where the public asks for a lot from the state, the Democrats job and let the Republicans win, making them unable to allocate resources to the people while claiming to represent them. Then the republican runs fiercely right-wing policy until the Democrat can get elected without having to be liberal, because the population is so scared of more republicanism they are threatened into voting for Democrats who won’t help them (Biden), and then the Democrat does nothing he says he would and a republican gets elected next time.
This is by design to maintain a right wing global empire. Prove me wrong.

Do you think the US was an anarchist state until WW1?
Government is bad, but there's a difference between necessary and unnecessary evils.
Government is only as bad as its people are complacent. Like the whole taxes thing. No, Bezos shouldn't have to pay income taxes. But you know what, neither should you. Income taxes weren't always a thing in the US. But people have spent our generations taking that dick and now it's impossible to get them abolished again because the government is too big.

True too. Could go either way. Anyways don’t believe for a second people won’t vote for Trump because of what’s been said about him

Jesus, they kept the afterbirth instead of the baby when you were born.

I think Biden's VP pick might be what actually decides it. If he gets it right and picks someone who actually enthuses voters and can wipe the floor with Mike Pence (which wouldn't actually be hard, Kaine was just fucking useless and saddled with defending Hillary) it's probably advantage Biden. Plus he's old, and everyone acknowledges that he might die in office, so he can essentially run a 2-for-1 presidents offer.

Something like that. Someone was talking about him picking Elizabeth Warren for his cabinet or some shit, I hope they don’t go that way or they will probably lose

Nobody explained why they miss Bush

Real talk, if internet culture was like it is today back in 2000-2008, would Bush create as much butthurt as Trump does?