How shitty at being guardians are the Gems?

Imagine a species that is already born fully grown and have no concept of growing taking care of one of the slowest maturing animals on this planet

That shitty

Pearl was going let Steven fall to his death because she couldn’t stop getting wet over his mom. That alone explains how shitty they are.

They love him unconditionally and I've never doubted that, but they're bad parents. Steven started lying about it way back in S1 during The Test to spare their feelings and it kind of just snowballed from there.

They are absolutely terrible. Look at him, he's a little fat fuck because they don't understand food and eating, the kid lived on boardwalk food and the occasional unhealthy abomination he'd make himself like the Together Breakfast.
Its nice to see older Steven actually taking care of himself eating right and such.

Very, they literally admit it, they talk about it, it's a point made multiple times in the show that they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. You did watch the show, didn't you?

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Tbh, been noticing some people a little too defensive over the Gems and wanted to get a feel from Yas Forums

He's never seen a doctor, has had to teach the gems about basic human needs such as sleep, and they've been using him as a therapist for their decades of PTSD.

The shit levels are off the goddamn scale. Slade goddamn Wilson would have been a better guardian for Steven.

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I’d give it to fucking Darkseid. He’s good to all his kids for an embodiment of tyranny

In spite of everything, I think Steven had a damn good dad.

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Pretty much this. There are contrarian assholes who would defend the Gems one day and then go out and say "they were always flawed, retard" the next.

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Steven is a blithering retard protected solely by plot armor and other contrivances. Of fucking course he's still alive.

They're good emotional figures, (prior to Gem War 2, during which they became emotional retards) but they aren't good guardians.

Say what you will about Darksied, he expected excellence from his children and made damn sure they got trained to that level. Granny Goodness was no slacker. A deranged bitch to be sure, but no slacker.

The only problem is the Gems basically took Steven and his dad was only a hover parent. He could come into the house but he wasn't staying there. They essentially forced him out of the inner circle.

This. Still pays for all of Steven's food, clothes and luxuries etc. and is always there if needed.

They're fucking Aliens that barely had a passing interest in interacting with humans outside of Steven.

If you wanna blame anyone for the bag of non-socialized nuts Steven has become blame his dad.

What kinda man gives his child to a group of space rock lesbian aliens who have lived for 1000s of years but give next to no fucks about humans and thinks it's gonna be all fine?

>mentally disabled child living in a bubble
Exactly like the gems.

Maybe Murder Cock shoulda been a better dad and took care of his son instead of having him raised by deathless life forms that don't understand human norms.

Rose knew best. Well, that's what they all thought anyway.

Yeah, I always felt this moment in particular was extremely hand waved. I never got how some people referred to Pearl as the most overprotective "mom" mom of the trio, when she was kind of the only gem to intentionally put and leave Steven in dangerous situations because of her own baggage. She's like a mom who has a mental break down and abandons her toddler on the side of the street to go get drunk because her boyfriend broke up with her. Very fucked up and irresponsible. No wonder Steven's fucked in the head.

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Did Rose, someone who did this to experience life as humans do, ask for Steven to be raised by Gems and to have Greg fuck off as Steven learns to basically be a gem?

I really hope Steven calls out Greg on his shit decisions tmr.

>space rock lesbian aliens who have lived for 1000s of years but give next to no fucks about humans
You know in hindsight that should have been the tipoff to everyone involved that they probably shouldn't be around people in general, let alone dealing with a child. Considering his state at the start of season 1, when he didn't even know what a fucking fusion was, they couldn't even teach him to be a gem properly, they failed in literally every possible way they could fail except killing the guy with instant regen.

I'm not sure it's ever specified but given Steven moves into the house around 14 or so (living in the van with Greg until that point) I would assume that was the plan all along.

They managed the bare essentials and were very supportive and enabling.
It only worked because Steven is a little Jesus and literally can't get diabetes.

Otherwise, they were pretty shit at actually letting him have a proper childhood, and they essentially forced the split between him and his dad. Greg was there a lot, but it would've been better if he didn't have to live in his damn van instead of the house he built.

skull

fractures

Terrible. It used to be justified under the premise of "training Steven to use his powers" but they never actually do that.
He figures everything out for himself and when he can't they're useless.

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>You must come with us to learn of your powers, and the history of the gems!
>OH NO he got attacked by a monster after seemingly living with us for months and we didn't teach him shit!
>No, you can't know basic facts about your mother or gem's homeworld! Its... too painful!
*A season later*
>Oh wait yeah homeworld? Yeah lemme tell you all about Homeworld and the diamonds and all that shit, let me even tell you the tale of how Ruby and Sapphire became Garnet! Why did Garnet hide she was a fusion? Uh... I'm sure there's a reason... but now that you know, lets talk about our past in great detail!
>Why didn't we mention any of this earlier? Same reason we don't talk about the pyramid later, this wasn't planned out very well. We uh, we dropped a lot of plotpoints.
>Now you're a man!(Theythem)

Somewhat relevant since it involves Greg

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they honestly should have just told him to fuck off when he wanted to go on missions. he would have been sad but he would have gotten over it.

I am fucking amazed at how they aren't making a bigger deal about this, the entire time in previous seasons you see him smashing into things and such and you just think "oh he's just extra durable since he's half gem" or its just silly cartoon physics, but no he's been constantly being injured and damaged just healed instantly its insane.

a lot of gems faults are handwaved
see: the diamons

They demonized the Diamonds for five seasons and even referred to their actions in the negative as recently as the movie and the first episode of Future. Pearl almost letting Steven die isn't treated as a good thing.

On an average day, they're alright. Amethyst is good at entertaining him, Pearl is organized and hard working, and Garnet is responsible and stern.

This is all thrown out the window when it comes to adventures, to which you really just have to wing it when it comes to a half human half magical life form and a world full of monsters. That's kinda the point of the show. Greg would actually be the most responsible parent if he didn't have to leave it to the gems due to all the magic he doesn't understand, but with the magic they have to rely on their combined characters to manage to be a parent when their species has no concept of parenting.

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>We uh, we dropped a lot of plotpoints.
Rewatching season 1 with the time travel and obvious magic is really weird when you compare it with season 5

First seasons usually go through that kinda gonzo style storytelling. Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

How the fuck did
>Adventure, magic, and monster hunting
Fail to stick but the boring ass pretend normal cartoon people problems jam into there

so since he retains the scaring and injury even after healing, wouldnt he either have some serious brain damage? fuck his organs should be covered in scar tissue. how is he still alive?

>Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.
Kinda telling that the only thing that apparently stuck are relationship drama, mysteries with unsatisfying payoffs, anticlimaxes and a shitload of Townie episodes. I get those are probably the easiest to write and animate but kind of sucks they started with much cooler shit and then threw it out for the uncool shit.

Its like ordering a ribeye and then tossing it out so you can eat the greenbeans garnish. I mean, I'm sure someone likes greenbeans, but damn.

Yeah, after Cat Fingers, they didn't animate anything with a similar level of complexity until the damn movie came out.

>The pyramid is a dropped plot point to you
You know they can just leave something unexplained because it's not important, right? You can just leave things as they are and don't need to give everything an incredibly in depth description of the technical aspects of everything there.

I think people keep forgetting in their weirdly obsessive search for "plot holes" that when you make a series obsessed with explaining all their magic in great depth, you end up with a disaster like Kingdom Hearts 3.

Magic was never a thing, it was gem tech. There was still that stuff just to a lesser degree since monster of the week got old as fuck after a while.

one of them can see the future and generally tries to take action to prevent harm so i'd say at least an oblivious/10

>Magic was never a thing, it was gem tech
He motherfucking went through time lets not pretend this shit.

Which is technology. They were aliens from minute one.

What technology let him turn into a mutant cat? That doesn't even work within the rules of the show later! How does hard light projection make him a mutant cat thing?

The hard light part of his body that we literally saw in the S5 finale?

We saw a pink steven form and also saw that Steven was in tact with the gem out, meaning that the hard light would have just split his skin. And don't give me that 'Kids show' thing, this is the explanation they gave!

His gem can convert his organic form into light. How do you think he fuses in the first place. How do you think he can let Connie fuse.

>I think people keep forgetting in their weirdly obsessive search for "plot holes"
Its not a plothole, its a dropped plotpoint. Massive detailed location, a ton of information on the walls, a new enemy that seems to have a connection to the bigger picture due to its absurd power, and then we just kinda ignore it and the painting didn't mean anything and was outright wrong and that enemy was just... a gem I guess. Just a gem, nothing special about it.

Lots of buildup for a dropped plotpoint that went nowhere.

What build-up? It's just a mural. Not every mural ever painted is accurate.

Pretty much.
>Time travel is introduced! I wonder how this is going to affect the narrative now that we-
>Nevermind lets just ignore it and never bring it up, not even the diamonds mentioning testing it or something, may as well have never happened.
Its not a plothole because its there, it happened, its just something that should have bigger implications that they just ignored the possibilities of, which isn't even an OOC moment, Steven is not a very inquisitive or thoughtful person.

>Jeez guys its just a massive complex structure with a huge mural depicting this seemingly important event and is guarded by a crazy powerful enemy, why did you think there was going to be more there? Its just a mural, it didn't mean anything and the Gem was just kinda there, wasn't that obvious from the episode?
No yeah that seems legit.

>Crazy powerful
>It's not even in the top 10 of corrupted gems

Nigga this ain't Dark Souls where important looking shiny shit gets tossed aside in a millisecond.

It's a giant pyramid that had a big ass mural that had the history of the gem war on Earth, a statue that looks like White Diamond, and they specifically lingered on a beam of light shooting up in the sky before cutting to credits.

What is stupid as Kingdom Hearts mess of a story is every Ronaldo episode and Onion Gang. Completely retarded world building that could be dropped and no one would notice, a giant ass pyramid with an obvious history is noticeable. If the Gems had just said THAT pyramid was a test and not the Ocean Temple then it'd be forgivable.

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>Nah this massive floating fucker who controlled the entire pyramid isn't that strong, so obviously that's why everything else about the whole massive complex with all the history on its walls wasn't meant to mean anything else, I mean look at those arms, doesn't even fucking lift.
Totally not a dropped plotpoint for more onion I guess/

Nigger this isn't youtube, stop writing the script for your next video essay.

Were you auditioning for the role of strawman?

I mean bravo but maybe scale it back a little, nobody would believe a real person said that.