Punisher is the only comic book hero who makes sense

>No he's not, are you baiting? He has prunciples.
How does he not? Prunciples don't change the fact that he kills people when he wants to, it just so happens he has reasons for WHY he wants to. Prunciples don't change anything.
>Because comics do not exist in a vacuum and are born in a clear social, cultural and political context
Actually they do because they're fiction. The only canon is what the writer of fiction writes to be canon.

>How does he not?
Because he doesn't kill random people on the fly. He only kills those who cross a certain line that he's drawn. Principles change everything.
>Actually they do because they're fiction. The only canon is what the writer of fiction writes to be canon.
The writer is always biased and is a product of their own environment.

You have any point or are you trying to be quirky?

Are you op?

Because if so you say Punisher is the only hero who makes sense so I'd imply that shapes your world view in a sense.

You can play dumb and say all works of fiction should be apolitical for shits and giggles but Punisher fans clearly have an implication for why they like punisher more. Reality isn't a comic book.

>You have an issue with Punisher because you can't separate politics from comics

Yes I'm sure hardcore Punisher fans are very apolitical people......

Obviously a nigger wrote this. Punisher kills black people because they’re responsible for 80% of crime. If you’re race wasn’t violent criminals we wouldn’t need to gun them down in the street.

FPBP

>Because comics do not exist in a vacuum and are born in a clear social, cultural and political context

Punisher was Conway/Romita Sr/Andru taking advantage of stuff like the popularity of the Death Wish movies!

When was black people mentioned?
Also thinking blacks are the only people capable of violence when literal war crimes are being committed is retarded and ignores bigger issues.

Also just because somebody thinks punisher fans are stupid doesn't mean they are against lethal force or the death penalty. I'm just aware it's not mentally healthy to glamorize those things with a fictional character.

I can tell you're not a mentally fit person with your quick to jump rage on a topic nobody brought here. You are a possible a product of divorce and insecurity.

Death Wish was literally right wing propaganda to justify government misconduct and to dehumanize inner city youths

Remember that scene where the vile lower class hooligans were screaming "Kill the rich"

One should be able to read the movie's implication there

>Punisher is the only comic book hero who makes sense

In what way? He's definitely the most grou grounded crimefighter in that is literally just a guy with military training with a gun.

Because growing up reading shit like this infuriated me. By the time I got my hands on Punisher comics, it was a big breath of fresh air to see true scum bags get what they deserve, not the kiddy treatment. The idea that "heroes don't kill" is meta shit that ONLY stems from the comics code coming into place, and had left a lasting stain on the medium. The idea that all evil people deserve a second, third, fifth, tenth, and twentieth and hundredth chance is bullshit and a really bad moral to teach that makes no sense and literally only exists in Western "Big Two" super hero comic books.

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It's funny that in your twisted mind you associate Punisher with being a tool of the government and police force, when the government is actively trying to prevent any civillians from having guns, and also the fact that Punisher is generally an enemy of government sanctioned heroes like the Avengers who are literally Marvel's super cops.

Yet he's no better than Batman at stopping crime.
Fucking Corona stopped crime dead in it's tracks better than those two combined.

Sure, when you're 13.

Green Lantern is cooler

I don't really care if superhero kill but your idea of evil is kind of childish and pitiable

Under a different life you would prob do some horrid shit

Fun Fact: I'm talking about the comic, not the character

The whole implication of Punisher is that the government is "Too soft" and if more cops and politicians acted like the punisher the world would be a better place

That's the message of the comic to the reader

You’re gay

T. pedophile. Yes you deserve to be murdered for your very impulses, scum. You're less than human.

You too.

How is that different than any vigilante, any super hero, the idea is "the cops and legal system are not working so I need to do it for them" regardless of a body count or not

Why are you calling me a pedo? Are you a pedophile projecting? Nobody is denying that pedophile is a mental illness

I know you're trolling but you do come off like a very very insecure child right now

When did I defend batman and spiderman?

Also those characters have super powered villains whereas Punisher attempts to base itself in reality

False. Punisher is just as unrealistic and absurd as other superheroes. He is just given an unwarranted veneer of "sensibility" because he shoots a gun instead of energy bolts by the sort of fans who feel embarrassed at reading superhero comics. It's the same mentality that drives people like Joss Whedon to constant self-referential mocking and insincerity, a desperate attempt at "acceptable" justification of one's interests to external social groups lest they be mocked for sincerity.

Yeah, I think most people associate Punisher bumper stickers with drivers who have short fuses.

Seems like he makes the least sense to me. He takes a much more direct, ruthless approach at cleaning the streets... but still doesn't actually manage to make any more of a difference than other Marvel heroes. Just seems like he stubbornly refuses to adapt to the rules of the universe be belongs to and has nothing to show for it.

I like both Batman AND the Punisher. Checkmate, faggots!

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Me too. But I can't stand Bat Family.

Shhhh the points you make are too intelligent for your regular Yas Forumsmagon.

I agree with his principal I agree that rapists murderers and Super criminals who are above the law need to be put down with extreme prejudice. I just think he goes too far.

>Also those characters have super powered villains whereas Punisher attempts to base itself in reality
Makes no difference at all.

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Imagine if he was penetrating the baby's asshole with his tendril right in front of Spider-Man and Venom and they can't do anything about it but watch or else he'll kill the baby.

>this is the brain of SJWs who hate anti-heroes
Punisher is the best hero because of this. So is Venom, Wolverine, Moon Knight, and any other rutheless anti hero who murders scum.

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Wasn't following the thread. Just came here to post about Carnage tendril fucking a baby.

It is still great movie though

Your ability to type coherent sentences whilst sucking cock is most impressive.

I hate batman and punisher
Both right wing power fantasies

This might be a hard concept but not every single criminal is Cleetus Kassady user so you don't have to keep posting Cleetus Kassady

>when the s󠛡oy is so powerful that even the wordfilter can't stop it

Okay, so󠛡yboy.

Imagine getting triggered nobody likes your shitty comics made for 12 year olds in the 60s

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The narrative that Punisher kills innocent people or people who do things like shoplifting or jay walking is a meme created by retards who don't read comics, and should have stayed on tumblr.

You're not absolved from being the scum of the Earth just because you don't have super powers.

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Thank (you).
I like some of them. Dick, Jason, Babs and Damian are all okay in my book. It’s stuff like Tim, Steph, Cass, and so on and so forth that aren’t needed and just dilute the brand.
Well... yeah. It’s one of the reasons why I like them. Stay mad, faggot.

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That's why kills like these in comics with anti hero type characters are always so pleasing...it's dealing with the kind of real scum who actually exists in the real world, and should be swiftly killed if there was any true justice. But of course there's not in reality.

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>You're not absolved from being the scum of the Earth

The way you type and the way you phrase this shit is like you're in a cult or you're getting some bdsm kink off to this. This is getting pitiable and embarrassing on your part. I can't imagine you actually saying this out loud.

You keep putting words in my mouth, I never said Punisher kills all criminals you idiot. What i'm saying is that you should stop using a fictional character to justify your autistic sadism. I bring up Cleetus Kassady because he's a fictional character literally created so cartoonish evil it's stupid.
Literally anybody placed in any scenario can be scum. Your ancestors have probably killed and raped for pleasure. If you were physically born raised by muslim radicals you would have been a muslim radical or the same with drug dealers or the mob.

I'm not against lethal force or the death penalty but glamorizing is pretty fucking gross. People have to die but you should at least acknowledge the world could be a better place if we choose to acknowledge social problems, poverty, mental illness and such instead of just being a mindless fucking retard about with "good vs evil"

Motherfucker if you went to jail and got raped I know you, fucking you, would lose morality and start killing. You are a fragile fragile angry lad.

What country/state are you from user?

>Zoomer discovers American Psycho and misses the point and uses it while defending his batman comics

based?

It's very funny because in everything you type, I can see you've created a false stereotype of who I am, because your kind literally think in stereotypes and knee jerk reactions. You're more racist than people you rally against and you don't even realize it. There is good and evil, you're just making excuses. People who victimize others know they're doing it and they don't care, because they are sociopaths. They exist in every race, it is not a race issue. And the funny thing is, I'm Middle Eastern and I guarantee you are extremely white, but the way you argue shows me exactly who you THINK I am, which is pathetic.

>What i'm saying is that you should stop using a fictional character to justify your autistic sadism.
All comic books are power fantasies, it's the only reason they exist as medium. And we are all autistic here. This is Yas Forums and we're grown men who read funny papers.
>I'm not against lethal force or the death penalty but glamorizing is pretty fucking gross. People have to die but you should at least acknowledge the world could be a better place if we choose to acknowledge social problems, poverty, mental illness and such instead of just being a mindless fucking retard about with "good vs evil"
Once again, needlessly confusing comic book fantasy stories for real world shit. You don't seem like the kind of person who grew up reading comics desu, because anyone who did understands that it is all entertainment.
>Motherfucker if you went to jail and got raped I know you, fucking you, would lose morality and start killing. You are a fragile fragile angry lad.
I've been to jail, and I wasn't raped, but I believe anyone who gets raped is completely on the moral up and up if they murder people for raping them. That should be the way it goes. You can murder people for trespassing, let alone trespassing on your asshole. But I guess you're a rape apologist? Sickening.

Michigan US.

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I bite at the hand that feeds me
slap at the face that eats me
some kind of animal
cannibal

>I can see you've created a false stereotype of who I am

"I'm Middle Eastern and I guarantee you are extremely white"

Lmao fuck off hypocrite, I'm only white for latino standards.

>You're more racist than people you rally against and you don't even realize it.

When the fuck was this a race issue you fucking idiot? The middle eastern example I made was just an example on why people can literally be born in any place.

>shows me exactly who you THINK I am
I know you're a shallow sack of shit by the way you post and type

>Once again, needlessly confusing comic book fantasy stories for real world shit. You don't seem like the kind of person who grew up reading comics desu, because anyone who did understands that it is all entertainment.

Oh you fuck

You cowardly fucking faggot

You spend this entire fucking thread crying and whining and bitching why Punisher is something needed in real life and now you're doing the "It's just entertainment" route

>I've been to jail, and I wasn't raped, but I believe anyone who gets raped is completely on the moral up and up if they murder people for raping them. That should be the way it goes. You can murder people for trespassing, let alone trespassing on your asshole. But I guess you're a rape apologist? Sickening.

Is that what you took from it? Idiot. I said even when you defeat your enemies and bad people you should still understand that traumatic experiences can shape a person's morality instead of just being a fucking retard who thinks "Bad people were just born bad"

Also stop with the fucking comic pages man
I'm not going to read your children books

I'm done talking to you if you're going to be this fucking stupid

>But I guess you're a rape apologist?
just.....

just go back to jail
the world doesn't need you

This thread never stood a chance.

>The narrative that Punisher kills innocent people or people who do things like shoplifting or jay walking is a meme created by retards who don't read comics
That's literally the kind of character he is in the comics the Spider-Man comics that debut Cloak and Dagger, which was my initial exposure to the Punisher as a kid. So believe it or not, that's what I think of him BECAUSE I read comics.