New preview images are up. Looks like Steven and Jasper are doing some training

New preview images are up. Looks like Steven and Jasper are doing some training.
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It's over jasper won

Daddy

Cactus Steven still looks to be a threat

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Jasper is end Game EAT A DICK SPINEL FAGS

Is steven going to learn how to jump good?

Those are clearly bush stevens.

God bless you Jasperfags. I'm very happy with you.

Only an uneducated fool would think those are bush stevens. They're clearly shrub stevens.

I can not confirm if these are images taken from Mr. Universe and/or Fragments. I would guess they are but they also could be from any of the four finale episodes.
Whoops, just noticed

OK there's no way this isn't Steven running away from the CG's

Can't wait to be dissapointed

See Steven is finally learning to use his plant powers in a fight
I would say Fragments

Poor Little Garnet

> Jasper wins Stevenbowl, Jaspeven canon
An outcome that would make everybody mad, bravo Sugar

>“I would get these notes that he should obliterate her and rid the universe of her evil,” says Sugar. “That’s really not what our show is about. But it’s what is expected from children’s programming — that if there’s a bad person, you kill them, and then everything will be fine. I just think there should be some alternative
Ok Sugar, but just going to the polar fucking opposite where NO bad person gets any consequence whatsoever is shitty too. Fine, don't kill the villains or any bad person, but have them pay for their crimes in one way or another. That way you get all the positive pacifistic shit you want and it's not awkward.
Also, how about you make your "villains" not as awful as genocidal space dictators? No fucking wonder your executives wanted to kill them, they totally deserve death. Make them less awful if you want everyone to end as friends.

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No it isn't. If the show is about forgiveness then it's consistent. Also the Diamonds have never wiped out sapient life like so many people seem to believe, nor did they do it for evil reasons.

Based. Jasperchads are winning again

Well apparently a leak says that the Diamonds are working their way to healing the Gem experiments and Spinel helps out. Good enough?

Per the leaks the Diamonds are now devoting themselves to repairing corrupted/cluster gems, which I guess is atonement enough

I expect Spinel to be the secondary focus behind Steven in Homeworld Bound. Then White Diamond will take center stage in Everything’s Fine, before Steven transforms into a monster.

>Their entire way of life was shown to be wrong
>Gave up power, freed gems
>Working to fix gems they personally hurt
That's a lot more than most redeemed characters do. Usually they just fight on the heroes side

Predicting which characters get focus in the following episodes:

>Mr. Universe: Greg
>Fragments: Jasper
>Homeworld Bound: Spinel
>Everything’s Fine: White Diamond
>I Am My Monster: Steven
>The Future: everyone

Forgiveness doesn't equal "you get to do whatever you want and get no consequence if you feel sorry about it". Criminals can be forgiven by their victims but they still have to go to jail. Popular franchises like Batman have done this, with villains like Mr Freeze who are totally sympathetic who the protagonist pities, but he still goes to jail because he was doing bad things. Batman still works to save his wife because he understands his motivations, he knows he's not evil, but puts him in jail because criminals must suffer repercussions for their acts.
Sapient life or not, it doesn't change the fact that the diamonds murdered billions of planets. Those lifeforms could have turn into intelligent lifeforms, but they were wiped away before they could do it. Not to mention the fact that their empire shattered any gem that was born "wrong" or dared to do things the diamonds didn't like, and their horrible cluster experiments. The Diamonds acts are some of the most vile in cartoons and they get away with it because Steven made them feel bad.
They are doing that because they want to, not because they are being forced to by anyone, and nobody is calling them shit for being responsible for that damage. Its not the same.
What are you talking about? They havent had shit
>still get to live in their palace
>still are important enough that their livestreams are spread throughout the universe and every gem stops what they are doing to hear them out
>they never truly realize how much damage they have done and treat everything like shit
The worst thing that has happened to them is that they feel awkward in certain situations. Thats it. Millenia of tyranny and genocide and its just that.

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>Yfw Greg dies

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He'd be pinked if that was the case. Worst case scenario: He gets hurt like in the movie.

So is I Am My Monster the final battle and Future a relatively chill and relaxed final goodbye, or does Steven turn into a monster in I Am My Monster and Future is the final battle
Because the last 3 episodes all come out on the same day so I guess they're a sort of big event

I Am My Monster is the scuffle episode. The Future will be the conclusion

I mean who’s gonna force them? It’s actually better this way because they are making a genuine effort with no influence rather than forced into servitude as it speaks more of the change they made

>They are doing that because they want to, not because they are being forced to by anyone, and nobody is calling them shit for being responsible for that damage. Its not the same.
But isn't that better? They've truly undergone a change in character for the better rather than being still evil but forced to do good under threat of penalty
I can understand perhaps being upset that they continue to live in such relative luxury but even so
I support the death penalty IRL man, and even I think you guys are getting way too worked up and vindictive over something fictional

>Greg loses an arm
>steven loses an eye

Shhshh, user, I get it. SU is not the property to raise your children on the ethics of force.
But people shouldn't be letting television raise their kids anyway. Only /su/ckers will argue that the position posited in Steven Universe is the "right" one. It's only barely a good one.
If I was given the show with no context of its creator I'd assume it's one of those people that gets ganked on a Middle East bike tour of peace, but the setting it exists in passively demonstrates how flimsy its moral argument otherwise is.
>You can talk it out with everyone, so long as you can overpower them, too
Is a more accurate breakdown of Steven Universe. It's only because Steven is the chosen one and the most powerful being in the universe that his moral argument works. It's "Might makes right" in disguise.

I don't know if Sugar would ever admit that the superficial message of the show is bullshit and the actual message of the show is that the strongest group makes the rules, but I guarantee you that's her actual message.

So what happens in The Future? Does Steven really leave to "find himself" or whatever?

>who’s gonna force them
If they really have "lost power" then everyone could be forcing them to make them. Its fucking baffling to me how any gem in the universe can respect or even like the Diamonds anymore (except Spinel) because no matter what side of the conflict you where they are responsible for everything wrong with their lives.
They wanting to fix gems is better than nothing, but it's not nearly enough. And its something they are probably doing for fun like twice a week instead of a work they put effort to in a way to truly redeeming themselves. The Diamonds are happy living in Homeworld doing whatever they want to feel happy instead of trying to become better people.

Technically it only happened because he fucked up White’s worldview by showing she’s not infallible

gonna get a face full of chad bush

I don't think Rebecca's ever said this shit can be applied IRL, if anything I've seen her say it's idealism to the max. I mean shit homophobia doesn't exist in the world of SU. Ruby and Sapphire's wedding is just a regular wedding in-universe.

You can't exactly imprison gods.

He only got audience with White in the first place because he's the Chosen One

>They've truly undergone a change in character for the better rather than being still evil but forced to do good under threat of penalty
we will have to wait and see when the episodes comes out because I have no doubt they are just doing this to please Steven, not because they actually care about anyone other than themselves.
If they truly want to become better people and they have zero power, they could be put in prison, That or banishment.

Gurren Laggan Epilogue-like episode, or Steven finally takes his rightful place on Pink Diamond's throne.

Seems like it. Might be another timeskip, we don't know

Steven literally overpowered white.

They didn’t lose their powers. They’re still the strongest Gems. They lost political power

steven smokes that dank kush

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The problem is the fans tend to excuse a lot of things in this show because it’s ‘Supposed to be realistic given the context’.

Things can be realistic in an idealistic setting. Doesn't change anything.

Who would object? They’re already combined all the time, marriage is a step down if anything

Andy according to SU Crits and he was chilling in like the front row of the crowd at the wedding.

If they have no political power and truly want to improve as gems, they would either accept imprisonment for their crimes (make it a luxury prison for all I care) or do what Steven did and go to every single gem they ever hurt and try to help them. It would be tiring, miserable, boring and possibly traumatic as they hear the trauma the people they have hurt have suffered, but its what they deserve.
The Diamonds don't get to live happily ever after and only do nice things when they feel like it, they deserve to be constantly doing things they don't like for the sake of self-improvement for 5000 years. And it would work because the only thing they need to be happy is to have each other, so any punishment that doesn't involve their deaths or separation would still lead to them finding their own happiness.

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Jasper gonna make a man out of Steven

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These might be episode descriptions

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How long before Steven calls someone a retard?

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And here’s Skary_Universe, the leaker, possibly talking about how the series will end

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Five minutes with Jasper.

I hope he sleeps with a black woman

>Steven can carry 5 times as much as Jasper
Damn

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sounds ambiguous as fuck. Couldn't he describe actual scenes?

Well he has rope

Leaker also seems to confirm that Spinel will make her TV series debut in Homeworld Bound. As to how big a role she will get in the episode, we do not know.

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Jasper is too much of a musclebrain to understand the concept of rope, pullets are like dark magic to her

She stayed true to herself more then anyone in this show.

I love her character for that

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She thought each blade of grass was an individual being. Let that sink in for a moment.

>I don't know their names!

Isn’t the whole point is that they change?

Drop them off at an Iron star and leave the there.

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Interesting titbit about Fragments from Ian

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Scary

No more parties in LA

It would be funny if that ends up being the best episode of the season.
It would make Ian the best writer from this show even after he left.

Just give me some good Jasper on Friday and let me see my baby next week in something bigger than a cameo and I’ll die happy

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Idealism by its very nature contradicts realism.