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who would win and why?
Let's settled this before society collapses
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Superman. He’s tougher
society
Depends on the writter
Goku, he's the smarter fighter. Even if Superman is stronger at first, Goku would overcome his limits and surpass him somehow.
Obviously it depends on which version of Superman.
when zamasu merged with the universe goku stated that he could have stopped zamasu if he had a sensu bean meaning goku at full power can destroy a universe. this is consistent with goku fighting beerus meaning goku is a universe buster in ssb. by the time he fights jiren goku can use kaioken x20 meaning without ultra instinct goku can destroy 20 universes at full power meanwhile superman needs massive amounts of solar radiation to destroy a galaxy and on his own he can barely destroy a planet
>headcanon: the post
they've had to overcome the power creep because they actually can't go any higher
that's why the current villain is an energy sucker.
he's not strong himself, he's just lowering everybody down to his level
Obviously Goku
strongest fighter in the universe
The unexpected third challenger.
WHY NECROBUMP THIS THREAD?
>who would win
The writer
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>why?
Because comics characters fights are based on an aspect determinied at the preference of the writer and who he think is going to win without even caring about a continuity of power level.
Even if the writer makes people vote who wins is still going to be the writers decision that matters because as Marvel vs DC taught us the writer has still more power
Think at Garth Ennis' Punisher
You know that he wrote Punisher defeating and humiliating Wolverine? You know that according to Garth Ennis Wolverine can't heal from a shotgun in the face or can't regenerate his leg in less than a minute or his claws can't even touch the Punisher?
Did he cared about what Wolverine's powers were?
No.
Because he is someone who really doesn't care about continuity as he is more interested in the characters he prefers.
He liked Punisher more than Wolverine.
So who would win between Goku and Superman?
Who is writing who.
Maybe we could have a writer who has an hateboner for Superman has Frank Miller had in the first years and he writer something like
>Superman turns into Super-Golden Composite Thought Robot Silver Age Powers x Infinity Control of Endless and Emotional Spectrum Sun Dipped by 1 Octilion of Blue Super Suns-Man that gets killed by Goku's pinky and Gou didn't even noticed it.
Or maybe we get a Goku hater that writer
>Goku turns into Goku-Omni God SSJ Infinity x Infintiy x Octilions of Super Gods of Super Ultra Gods Powers Of Zeno Fused with Zeno and Mr Popo's Powers x Infinity Fused With all the God Of Destructions and Angels of The Universe and Total Control of Super Dragon Balls and Control Oozaru LSSJ Infinity Powers and....Superman defeats him with his pinky and he doesn't even notice.
So...the writer is always the real winner
Goku, we already knew that.
You're both right
Better for him
Reminder that Goku hasn't won a fight on his own since Frieza.
And superman wears his undies on the outside
Superman because FUCK YOU, that's why
Superman because Superman has no limits, is written by multiple writers, and is typically given the powerset to handle whatever monumental task he needs to do. One issue or story, Superman can be getting his ass washed by Muhammad Ali, and another issue he can literally be holding the concept of Infinity together.
Jokeku is about surpassing percived limits left by the people he is fighting against, but he's typically written by one person at a time. But just because Jokeku surpasses limits, doesn't mean he is stronger than the person he's directly fighting against. This was most commonly shown off in Super against characters such as Beerus, Jiren, and Broly.
It's a cultural thing. Kryptonians weren't known for their fashion sense.
>undies
THAT
IS
TRUNKS!
How is it hard to understand? Is it trunks!
Goku, easily, if he would exploit superman's weaknesses like to red sun energy, nuclear radiation, kryptonite or use that magic technique to seal him in a jar.
But Goku wouldn't do that, because that's no fun
Yeah, which is wierd, considering how he exploited freezes weakness when he went golden frieza and didnt regulate his energy.
Anyways, that's the only thing keeping goku from beating superman, a character flaw, not raw power.
That's so bizzare when people say things like this. Like if we take a character's personality away and boil them down to a walking murder machine then they could totally kick everyone's ass. Okay but what's the point then? Weren't you rooting for the character because you liked them to begin with? And now they don't have their character.
goku would win simply because kryptonite exist as a major weakness for superman. and yes, you would be able to utilise whatever possible to win
official crossover WHEN?
Okay, just throw him into space. He’s fast enough to do it before Goku pulls it out
Yes, its bizzare.
I think the only loophole would be is if goku finds a way to shoot an energy beam that fires red sun radiation. He would view that as his own skill and have now qualms about using it.
Heart virus
Is he tougher than leather?
Goku can just fly back down to the atmosphere.
Also Z Broly had a method in breathing in space why can’t Goku do the same?
Both because Z Broly isn't canon and Goku does not have that ability, in the latest arc not being able to breathe in space is still an obstacle for him
>and yes, you would be able to utilise whatever possible to win
Goku wouldn't do that though, this is the dude who gave Cell a senzu bean
He can’t. That’s a big part of the latest arc in the manga.
That always been stupid to me. He can survive planets blowing up on him, but he dies in space.
No, he can survive hits that destroy planets, he still needs to breathe
Superman can't survive an heart attack of another kind
That wasn't Superman though.
You keep on posting this to shit on Superman but the fact is He-Man wrecks just about anybody, including Goku
To be honest, Superman not having limits doesn't make sense. He gets his powers from solar radiation, meaning theoretically, he should be limited by the amount of power a sun possesses. Even if he continually absorbs sunlight, it still shouldn't give him enough energy to destroy a universe.
Just instant transmission back down to Earth.
He-Man would fuck up Goku even worse than he does Superman.
How many times did you make a thread to "settle"
Why should he have limits just because you want him to? Logically he shouldn’t be able to do many things even if he was solar powered
No oxygen to his brain means he won’t be able even think of Earth
>No oxygen to his brain
Retard. Regular people can stay conscious in space for fifteen seconds. You think a super-powered monkey man can't instant transmission his ass out there before then?
I think Goku can’t do a lot of things involving his brain
Death Battle settled this twice already. Superman stomps. In 1,000,000 matches between the two Clark wins 1,000,000 times.
Think of it less as him channeling power by the sun, more like him being fueled by it. A vehicle can be far more powerful than the gas or battery you hook it up to. Superman has his own power, one of those being able to convert the solar radiation extremely efficiently.
Death Battle are fucking faggots
There is NO WAY Superman can even touch, let alone defeat, Ultra Instinct Goku
>taking the word from guys who reads feats from wikis and respect threads without context and does a shitty fan animation on the side as a fact
Most brainlet post itt
Death Battle is literally the VS Battle wiki but for capeshit.
>converting the energy of one sun into something capable of destroying a galaxy and/or universe
Doesn't this break like the law of entropy or something?
>m-muh latest powerup will surely make the difference!
This cope was tired with Blue, get over it.
>can't offer up any better data
And so the weeb seethes even as he concedes.
How you figure? Carnage got absolutely shitstomped by an anime literal who.
Superman beat up the embodiment of entropy once. He doesn’t give a shit.
If written by american authors, Superman wins.
If written by japanese authors, Goku loses.
How is anything I said a concession. Take DeathBattles cock out of your mouth for once, superfag. Their fanfics aren’t facts
I would rather want to know who would win a fight between Sun Wukong and Heracles
Wukong murder stomps
The Audience
Goku Kal-El is a Jew.
Why wouldn’t he be able to touch MUI Goku? That form has no speed feats that surpass Superman. And he’s not literally untouchable if Jiren can hit him
Then you admit that those two episodes of death battle were correct because they came out before he got that.
>continues to protest without any evidence
Please, weeb-kun, there's no need for you to prostrate yourself before me any longer, your first concession was quite enough.
>evidence
Fanfic animations aren’t facts Superfag.
Ultra Instinct gets hit a bunch in the arc it's introduce in the fuck are you on about
Stop, stop, you're both retarded.
Superman wins but I like Goku better. Always have.
>STILL no evidence
Weeb-kun, please, this is getting embarrassing.
>Superman because Superman has no limits
>AAAAHHHHH B-BATMAN L-LET GO OF ME PLEASE
C-CALL THE REST OF THE JUSTICE LEAG- *POW*