How would he fare in the MCU?
How would he fare in the MCU?
Transformed into a penis in 5 seconds.
Reasonably well. The more important question is what quips would people make about him?
Very well, he's a god, how can you kill a god?
What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
Dagoth Ur a fagit lol
Shitty god if he's reliant on the heart of a dead god for his powers. Also, Morrowind still managed to lose to the Empire despite having three living 'gods' on their side.
Is this how you honor the sixth house and the tribe unmourned?
They were the only province to maintain autonomy and have an agreement with Tiber Septim before being part of the empire.
The False Dreamer meets the GodHead.
While a strong wizard and more or less immortal while the heart is alive he’s not all that conventionally strong, he needed help to overwhelm Sotha Sil and Almalexia. His main threats are the ability to spread an incurable disease and infect people’s dreams.
Come, Nerevar
Come and look upon the Heart
Upon the Heart
Ooh
Shame on you
Isn't Kojo just a newborn god the other gods are scared shitless of for some reason, likely do to the soul eating? Afungi established that The-One-Above-All exists in the universe.
Could be a nice Strange villain
Tony Stark would beat him up because Tony Stark is the best. Wolverine would also beat him up too because I like Wolverine.
Could he be a street level hero?
COME NEREVAR
FRIEND OR TRAITOR
COME
The Redguards forced the Empire's hand to renegotiate terms favorable to them without the aid of demigods. The fact that the Dunmer still had to submit to Imperial authority regarding certain matters is still pathetic for the side that has three "gods."
Who?
>hunts you down to the other side of the fucking province
>"Stop, you've violated the law!"
yes
Also, isn't there like basically infinite of them?
He isn't reliant on it for his powers, it's more that where it goes, he has to follow. It's his link to the physical world. His powers are pretty much end of the universe level shit, because his goal and aim is to turn all reality into himself. He has the reverse of enlightenment, rather than seeing himself as part of the great dream of reality yet awake within it, he sees all reality as a part of him.
If he isn't stopped very quickly he will likely be replacing Eternity and Kismet.
>Redguards
>didn't have gods
They had the HoonDing, which is the second most powerful thing in the setting.
Dealing with Dagoth Ur would be a bit like trying to deal with a lucid dreamer while you are one of the things he's dreamed.
Cosmologically, the Elder Scrolls world gets similar things confused. Such as death and sleep. Sleep mimics death and when you sleep your mind goes to where all the dead stay. The Dreamsleeve. Which is fine. The dead in the dreamsleeve are [asleep] there and with no body in the real world to wake up to. Dagoth Ur, however, is somehow AWAKE and ALIVE in the Dreamsleeve itself. When he goes to sleep there, like one might sleep in the living world, he appears in the living world just like how you'd appear in the dreamsleeve while you slept.
Which makes him stupidly dangerous. It took a trio of gods to keep him contained, and technically that didn't actually work. Stupid useless ghost fence.
Summary: he’s the backwards Freddy Krueger
That's a remarkably good analogy.
Of note, the incurable disease is of his own making, and the fact he's making it from the standpoint of a lucid dreamer is why it's so fucked up. The Ghost Fence also does fuck all. Dagoth Ur was just playing the long game cause it was safe. He had the heart and the Tribunal could not get it to renew their powers. Even if it took 1000 years of waiting, all he had to do was wait right by the heart. Easy no effort victory. That THE ENTIRE COSMOLOGY REVOLVES AROUND ME pc character shows up to kick his ass was kind of bullshit.
Also I'm fairly sure Dagoth Ur is not actually gone regardless. You'd have to go in to the dreamsleeve and kick his ass or something.
>pays you 10 drakes for the powerful staff in the world
What's the first?
Jiub.
He isn't gone, no. He cannot die as long as the Heart exists, and the Heart cannot be destroyed. The Nerevarine using Wraithguard, Sunder, and Keening unbound it from Kagrenac's original enchantments, but it cannot be destroyed. It's the Heart of the World after all, it was just sent elsewhere.
Dagoth Ur is still alive, he's just trapped in the Dreamsleeve and can't get back.
Talos. Mainly because he's a combination of mantled Lorkhan, two Dragonborn, at least one Shezzarine, Lorkhan's Heart, and CHIM.
Blown the fuck out by Dr. Strange. Dr. Strange regularly handles cosmic beings that absolutely shit all over whole Pantheons of Deities.
Sorry, DCuck, but your glorious writing overlards have written the fact these are just colors on a comicbook page in to the very cosmology of their faux worlds. Even a child can rip a drawing in half. The only danger anyone in DC puts anyone is of reading a shitty story.
>DCuck
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just pretending to be dumb as part of a ruse to bait me.
All of you degenerates look the same to me.
I accept your surrender.
No but for real. Doesn't Marvel do the same bullshit 'metanarrative' shit where it screeches about how acknowledging itself as mere color on a page makes it more real than a person? I need to know to troll vs threads in the future.
It depends on the writer and the comic, of course. Meta narratives are just a type of novelty and few books can go on long using them without feeling like more of a cartoon than less of one. "This is all a work of fiction" undermines the work.
Elder Scrolls actually doesn't acknowledge it's own fiction. It is a dream, and the dream is used to waive away inconsistencies but the lore still tries to have rules even if they're always forgetting them.
Fact is, I don't think Marvel meta and Elder Scrolls are really compatible, and if you tried to combine them I think Mundus would be a separate part of the multiverse and certain Marvel characters could actually slap the Godhead awake.
Not really. And DC is more like comics are used as a form of communication between universes. Like when Barry Allen thought Jay Garrick was just a comic book character
The Tribunal of Pedobear, Spurdo and Gondola is the one true faith.
>"This is all a work of fiction" undermines the work.
Glad someone feels like this. I don't know why the writers think it's clever for the characters themselves to admit to ficitonality. It just steals any importance or emotion from the story.
Again, it's just novelty. It can be used like Bugs Bunny for comedy, but you'll notice Bugs only rarely got to directly interact with the artist or be the artist or so on, because they need stakes and there are none if Bugs were to always remind the audience that nothing is real.
It can also be used to power trip, like how Gwenpool gives Gwen narrative knowledge so she has a leg up thanks to having information in-universe characters shouldn't have. That can be fun or interesting to a limited extent, but it does beg the question how you don't have an existential breakdown knowing all you've down will be washed away in the next retcon anyway.
Not too great if it were just him. The supply of power he was constantly getting from the heart would be cut off and he'd be running off what he had at his disposal. He'd do okay at first but drain his power quickly and get jobbed or just *poof* somewhere and hide.
Come.
Lewd.
How would the Nerevarine with 100 in alchemy fare in the bible?
It's still pathetic that the Dunmer had to submit to the Empire on terms that weren't entirely favorable to it, because 3 god-like beings siphoning the power of what was basically a pillar of reality should still have been more than enough for some jungle Romans.
Not when the jungle Romans have a leader who has Royalty, which easily trumps 2/3rds of the Tribunal and puts him on even terms with the only person on the Tribunal to also have it.
Vivec saw Talos as a fellow CHIMer. He realized he'd get his ass kicked and attempted Amaranth to escape.
Vivec tried to run away, Talos is "stronger" than he is. It's in the sermons.
Talos, if you're talking about proper gods. ANU and PSJJJJ don't count usually because they're not functioning entities.
Talos is still bound by the game. The most powerful thing in any Elders Scroll game is the main character, since he has CHIM, i.e. mods.
>and if you tried to combine them I think Mundus would be a separate part of the multiverse and certain Marvel characters could actually slap the Godhead awake.
I don't see it. ANU is basically Azathoth (or at least, the pseudo-canon interpretation of it). Waking it up is something that even the already vastly multiversal entities in the setting can't really do, nor do they want to.
Closest was Dagoth Ur himself. And he wasn't trying to wake up ANU, but instead to subsume its Dream and emerge as Amaranth.
CHIM is just an understanding that you're a part of a vast dream for a slumbering Godhead (I ARE ALL WE). Whilst it's a method towards godhood, you don't become the most powerful thing in the setting from it. Hell, you fuck it up, and you just flat out Zero Sum and cease to exist.
You don't fuck it up as player character though. Worst you can do is freeze the world in the state you left it until you reinstall.
I would love a good comic adaptation of the Tribunal, Nerevar, Dagoth Ur story
And curved swords! Curved. Swords.
" Talos.
The HoonDing.
Trinimac.
Vivec.
Leki.
Reman.
Auri-El.
Wulfharth.
Morihaus.
Pelinal.
That's my list, and pretty much in that order. Though Vivec did kill Tiber Septim once...but I mentioned Talos, not the Emperor."
According to Kirkbride.
>confusing chim and 4th wall meta
CHIM doesnt break the fourth wall or any particular meta-narrative shit. The player isn't a thing in TES lore.