Would Spawn have had as much lasting appeal if McFarlane hadn't arbitrarily made him black?

Would Spawn have had as much lasting appeal if McFarlane hadn't arbitrarily made him black?

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Most people don't even know he's black, they just think he's a demon.

doesn't matter

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real question is why god be a black old woman

Really? I always thought it was super important to his character until I recently heard an interview where Todd says that Spawn is basically his self insert but also made him black because there weren't a lot of headlining black super heroes at the time.

Nothing would have changed. Spawn's remembered for that costume and his sick cape, not for character motivations, plot, or being a black guy.

Fact of the matter is, unless you were a 90s kid or older, a lot of people recognize Spawn more as "those cool toys" or "the guy in Soul Calibur" or "that one x-box game my brother had"

I knew his whole backstory was being a human then got turned into the Spawn even as a kid. But never cared enough to learn that he was black. I always thought he would look like generic white buff dude. I recently watched HBO's Spawn and that's where I learnt he was
black

Well he did turn into a white guy.

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Twice, right? Or was that "replacement" from like issue 100 to 150 guy an actually different dude?

If Spawn was white, he wouldn't have such a buttery smooth voice.

>Spawn voiced by Clancy Brown

>Spawn voiced by Nathan Lane

I always thought Spawn was the cheesiest gayest shit. Just extreme edgy 90s crap.

>original character
>'arbitrarily made him black'
How was it arbitrary? He was just creating a character and he decided to make him black. Do you think it was an arbitrary decision because todd is white? Did Jim lee 'arbitrarily' make grifter or spartan white? Jim Lee's Asian, so does him making whit echaracter count as pandering towards a mass audience?

I liked that they got Keith David to voice him for the game.

He'd have more lasting appeal if McFarlane let someone else write him

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Yeah the only time I think his blackness was addressed that I remember was that issue where he tangles with the KKK

Read Curse of the Spawn and Sam and Twitch, they're really good.

These racist assholes never get it man. Worst thing is they don't even know their being racist.

he literally did. all the early issues were written by the top writers in the industry

Time for your estrogen tranny

>He was just creating a character and he decided to make him black
merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arbitrary
I don't see how his skin color matters to him as a character, so yeah: Arbitrary seems like a pretty appropriate word here, as it would be if he were any other color.

Spawn is like Moon Knight. Only the most random of people know or recognize him. Even if no one reads Superman comics, everyone knows who he is. Spawn is literally the opposite.

More people definitely know who Spawn is than Moon Knight.

Well that explains the drop in quality
Just wait until Moon Knight's show hits

Didn't do jack squat for Iron Fist

Bullshit. Ask a normie who Spawn or Moonknight is and they would give you a question mark. A character only reaches iconic status when even the most oblivious knows who that character is. Something that both Spawn and Moon Knight doesn’t achieve.

>I don't see how his skin color matters to him as a character
Then you're a confirmed casual. Al Simmon's race is crucial to the relationship he has with patriotism. His loyalty to America and the way it's twisted is a direct shot at the way the country has treated black people in particular and exploited people in general, which is also a direct parallel to how Heaven and Hell treat all of mankind. Understanding his race and racism were just tools being used to control him (and control the world) is an integral part of Spawns journey to understanding and fighting against the Holy War system.

That's because it was on Netflix with a shit budget and an asshole showrunner who had no interest in the character

>That one user's God-awful Spawn redesign.

I don't suppose anyone saved that piece of shit?

Hey guys, I'm getting into Spawn fro obvious reasons, but how is Dark Horror? Is it good as a standalone story? I'm mostly interested for the art

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Anyone who's at least 25 remembers an age when toy store shelves were still stocked with countless Spawn toys

You're showing your underage is all

Fucking retard. I said normies doesn’t give a shit about him and will not even try to understand. Spawn isn’t appealing because he doesn’t appeal to normies the way Superman, Batman, Spiderman, etc. does. Don’t be a fucking retard.

>arbitrarily black
As opposed to arbitrarily white?

As usual. OP is a retard.

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Are you telling me every single normie buys toys???? You’re actually a retard. Your IQ is showing.

All normies grew up going to Toys R Us....yes...

You're either a poorfag or from a country other than America, in which case your opinion is invalid, learn your place and pretend to be American while posting here.

I said more people know who Spawn is than Moon Knight. They do. And yes, this is anyone who's at least 25 years old.

The only way someone who's normal, not a comic reader, doesn't know who Spawn is, is that they're a modern kid/teen who likely never saw him before. Anyone who was alive and thinking fully in the 90s and 00s knows just who Spawn is even if they never picked up one of his comic books.

Moon Knight? Self procclaimed Marvel nerds who grew up on Spider-Man and X-Men multimedia but not comics often don't even know who he is.

What made it so awful?

Spawn's skin color is literally arbitrary.

Fucking retard. I’ll say it again so your retarded fucking brain understands. ASK A NORMIE WHO SPAWN IS. He will say no. There’s your answer retard. Imagine being so dumb you can’t understand that.

That makes the page where Spawn has all the big name heroes from Marvel and DC REALLY pathetic.

And I'm saying all normies who are fucking adults know who Spawn is.

I'm right, you're wrong, you autistic faggot.

Spawn had a movie and a TV show, odds are you'll find someone who's seen or at least heard of those.

Anyone who watched HBO heard of Spawn, cause thy played that shit a lot

Anyone who went to Toys R Us as a kid heard of Spawn, because shelves were littered with Spawn crap

Anyone who payed any attention to action movies remember the Spawn movie coming out

Anyone who played video games saw Spawn in a game, or a Spawn game of its own sitting on the shelf of their rental store, Funcoland, Gamestop, etc etc

That user is just a retarded fuck, or is underaged.

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>reddit spacing
Of course you have a nigger IQ.

Imagine such a shithead loser that you don’t know what normies think. Literally ask one stupid.

You already outed yourself as a reddit nigger. That’s all there is to day to be honest.

The difference is that everyone knows who Superman is. Only some would know who Spawn is. This nigger assumes that you can just go up to someone and just expect them to know who Spawn is.

>Nathan Lane
I know want to see that happen.

*now

Haha this reddit nigger tries so hard to fit in, but his shitty reddit spacing gave it away.

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Aww, reddit nigger is angry? Chimp out more.

I fucking love it. Reddit nigger tries so hard to fit in , but is terrified of using the n-word. Reddit nigger is a reddit nigger.

>Are you telling me every single normie buys toys????
Seriously what kind of "normie" kid didn't grow up with toys? I remember seeing Spawn toys at places like FYE and Suncoast and shit too in the 2000's, wasn't even limited to Toys R Us and KB.

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>How was it arbitrary?
Because they didn't spend 50 issues going into it so they could complain about that instead.

>every single normie buys toys
When your so distanced from normal language that you think "toys" are all 200$ model figurines for collectors in their 30s. You're either retard of 15.

>normie
Go away normalfags

If they can clearly remember the 90s and weren't still teething they probably could. What's so hard to understand about that?

>arbitrarily made him black
now this is bait. I'm surprised this thread hasn't hit bump limit.

This. Even when he's had his "skin" back for years, casuals are usually unaware he was black to begin with.

This. This right here.
There's a reason the things people actually remember fondly from Spawn came from other writers.

Normies either buyed toys as a kid or took their kids to stores to buy them toys.

Man he was fun in SC
Beat the fuck out of this one clown like ten times with him having never played that one before. It was good times.

>Would Spawn have had as much lasting appeal if McFarlane hadn't arbitrarily made him black?

No, it would have a much lasting appeal if he wasn't so derivative and Todd didn't became so salty about other people writing it because "muh rights!"

Literally only renting MK11 just for him.