The only reason why you guys think superman wins is because you use a composite version of superman vs a single version...

Ima get some art done of both of them getting the shit beat out of them by bling bling boy.

Make it butt naked Steven Universe.

superman has more exciting adventures

goku just fights fan-fiction characters

> “You should’ve listened when you had the chance.” Eugene said, his voice booming like thunder as he approached the terrified Kryptonian, stepping over the broken body of Son Goku. “P-please, BlingBling boy, have mercy!” Kal-el weeps, looking to the god like being before him. “Mercy?” The gold clad youth asks before letting loose a roar of laughter. “Mercy is for the poor.”

Goku guy here, you're wrong composite superman is Low Complex Multiverse since to strange visitor goku is at best no infinite multiversal.

Lol wtf does that mean? Marvel shazams them all into oblivion anyway

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The problem with the "call muh composite Superman" argument is that, in DC, multiple versions of characters can actually fight. So if the regular, modern day Superman could, say, fight and win against another Superman with different feats and stories, then it tends to mean that Superman can do what the other could, at minimum. That doesn't mean every Superman is compatible in those comparisons but the main, modern Superman has directly battled and been compared to multiple versions of himself. It's the exact same logic of scaling in DB except Superman is being scaled directly to other Supermen he's fought, while most versions of Goku exist in such different continuities that they couldn't ever fight or be compared to, it'd be exactly what most accuse of the Superman feat stacking.
Also, composite Goku would still lose to a composite Superman.

Goku's function in the story is "the guy who can surpass anyone". Superman's is "the guy who can beat anyone".

So if Goku and Superman fought once, Superman would win. But if they were transplanted into the same universe, Goku would surpass him eventually.

How? Superman beats his foes repeatedly no matter if they get stronger

Actually it's usually the opposite, he either loses round 1 and wind round 2 or he wins round 1 with assistance and wins round 2 by himself

You know, you could have just reported the thread and gone about your day instead of sperging out in ALL CAPS

i agree with what you say

using a composite version of one character vs a non composite is unfair however you have to be high as fuck if you think ANY version of goku can beat superman one million

are you having a stroke? what is this nonsense

O-oh N-n-n-n-n-no...no....NO.....NO!

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super1millionbros....

kek

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oh no onemillionbros it looks like we got too cocky!!!!

lol superfags coping HARD when faced with FACTS

You’re a blessing Anondive.

> “No..NO!” Kal-El bellows, as energy beams erupt from his eyes on a collision course with the approaching BlingBling Boy; the boy merely raises the polished gold dollar sign around his neck, reflecting the beams back at the panicked man of steel. “Arghh!” The kryptonian screams, as the beams strike his chest, sending him tumbling backwards. “Just hold still Clark, the sooner we get this over with, the sooner I can get back to my sweet Susan.”

lol goku canonically lost to Superman in DBS
cope harder f/a/ggot

alright amuse me
if we used a "composite" version of goku taking the best from every media (manga, anime,games,etc) how strong would that goku be?
i can guaranteed you he still wont be strong enough to beat supes

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fuck off you boy scout is gay, weak and a cuck

Meta megaversal. Faster than time, 4th wall breaking gag powers and have even managed to fusion with the audience that are watching him fight.

From what I gather, he's an "upper dimensional" being able to match Demigra, who is stated to be above time and space. It's a lot of vague statements and stuff but the best feats I gather are Demigra at full power destroying the infinite timelines (though it should be noted that those timelines in that chamber were in the form of paper scrolls, so it's unknown if destroying them there would be any different.). The rest of the "feats" are the same beams and speed lines compared to other beams and speed lines where if you squint far enough down the list a moon or planet will have been destroyed so scaling the numbers up super high means they're ultimate strong. At best I'd be willing to say he's 5th dimensional in power and durability, but there are still a number of Supermen able to match or overpower him, a true composite Superman would easily win still.

Big deal COIE Anti-Monitor did the same thing as Demigra decades ago

>he's 5th dimensional in power
what the fuck does that mean?
and people say comicbooks are retarded

Goku... because Lex Luthor took all the pies.

>a true composite Superman would easily win still.
A true composite superman at best would still be a serious character. While Goku have gag character origins and have managed to become to audience by fusing with them.

In DC comics, the fifth dimension is imagination

Gokuspics still crying that their bull lost to Supes i see

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What I want to say is that, Goku would still win.

NIGGER DID YOU FUCKING READ MY QUESTION? I ASKED WHAT DOES BEING "5TH DIMENSIONAL IN POWER" MEANS NOT WHAT THE 5TH DIMENSION IS

That'st what I've been saying. Classic Capcom vs SNK argument: Capcom uses up-to-date versions of Street Fighter characters vs kof 94 era versions of SNK characters.

It’s like you Gokuspics voluntarily forget the entire Silver Age on purpose

I was playing devil's advocate, composite/Xeno Goku would beat some Supermen but not all versions and definitely not a composite supes.
Gag character/powers does not automatically mean they win, unless you now believe Deadpool and Saitama beat most versions of unironically beats most versions of Goku in a fair fight. 4th wall breaking also doesn't automatically mean victory, because of a number of reasons, not least for several versions of Superman also having 4th wall breaks.
Eh, both pretty much are. But DC does have 5th dimensional scaling and characters, which Superman has surpassed like Strange Visitor or any that have defeated Mxy.

>and have managed to become to audience by fusing with them.
How is this impressive? VsBattle scailing is infamously retarded

>But DC does have 5th dimensional scaling and characters, which Superman has surpassed like Strange Visitor or any that have defeated Mxy.
Dimensional scailing is retarded. I hate Snyder for limiting the dimensions to 6 when Morrison just established Captain Atom could see beyond 8

Do you fucks even understand this? A true composite Goku have gag powers, 4th wall break powers, watching audience powers on top of his already retarded overpowered powerset from games. Supes is fucking dead.

You really don’t know anything about the Silver Age, do you?

can goku do this?

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Thought Robot and Silver Age could casually and contemptuously slap every single iteration of Goku dead simultaneously.

Unless silver age supes can literally interact with the audience and I don't know, fuse with them, I don't see a problem of not knowing about it.

>A true composite Goku have gag powers, 4th wall break powers, watching audience powers on top of his already retarded overpowered powerset from games.
Superman already had those powers, tho. Composite Supes includes Robot Chicken Supes, you will probably sleep with Chichi after he’s done making out with Goku

Who do you think he’s talking to?

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You fucking idiot. The scale goes
Creators > Audience > Gag > Meta > Omniversal > Megaversal > Multiversal > Universal.
Supes at most have only until meta. Goku got both gag and audience.

You're actually insane.

So, you admit you don't know shit about Silver Age Superman.

>Unless silver age supes can literally interact with the audience
He’s been interacting with audiences since before Akira Toriyama was fucking born, genius

Oh you mean ads? Goku had many of those. Now show me a story that Superman directly interact with the audience in the story.

Gag and 4th wall powers do not equal automatic victory. If they really do, then Superman still wins by that logic. I tend to ignore 4th wall breaks in battles anyways because it seems to be the cop-out way of having characters win without having actual feats that would actually overcome what the other character can do, like you lack confidence in any actual argument so you resort to "my character knows he's fictional so he wins!" In which case, yeah, Superman still wins.

Inside a real story? I doubt it.

Nah. Goku got audience powers too.

>Creators > Audience > Gag > Meta > Omniversal > Megaversal > Multiversal > Universal.
creators ain’t shit compared to prime

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Many Silver Age stories had him winking to the reader at the end

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And Prime ain't Superman. Thank you.

Audience literally can’t do shit tho.

>is literally called Superman
>he’s not Superman cuz I say so!
see the harder, fag. You got no answer

Finally, someone actually made this interesting.

He actually is. He’s literally an alternate version of Superman. He’s from Earth Prime. He is Clark Kent. He only got his powers later on during a meteor shower.

Spider-Man has to save the audience a bunch of times in his ride. Spider-Man can beat Goku now

Well, if the Tournament of Power is any indication, the strongest material in all the universes can be broken by him.

>s-superman
Ahem, Superboy. Superman is a comic character to prime.

He is. Kal-El, Clark Kent, and Superman. Literally all three. So he is, fag.

What, by your own personal scaling? Arale is a gag character and can't beat Beerus, but he doesn't know he's fictional at all.
The problem with the "fusing with the audience" thing is that it's laughable. The resulting fusion does what? It's just another power up with vague numbers, it doesn't do anything beyond winking at the audience like every 4th wall break does. And if the theater is empty, the way it is now, he's not fusing with anybody anyways, it's not like he knows he's fictional and thus has metafictional power.
Oh, so he's Goku+some regular people, got it. Theoretically Grant Morrison can be in the theater and fuse with Goku, and then write Superman to beat himself anyways. That's how this retarded 4th wall breaking nonsense looks to me. Have confidence in your actual arguments and character.

Nah, Spiderman is just below Goku because Goku actually fuse with the audience.
youtu.be/yCk2UyaI20g

Nope. He calls himself Superman in that story. Try harder, faggot

He’s literally a younger evil version of Superman. And he would be composited.

Except Spider-Man is stronger than the audience because he can effortlessly save them.

Goku is so weak that he needs to fuse with the same audience Spider-Man saves.

Nope. If so you also gonna add all those clones that call themselves Superman? Wanna add Bizarro too because technically...

They have the same DNA, he’s alternate version of the guy, like Kingdom Come Superman, Injustice Superman, he’s the Superman of his universe

Yeah, Bizarro too. Also the clones. They’re all Superman.

Spiderman thinks he is saving them while Goku knows that his audience are gods ik training.

I bet I could take both of them, if I got the drop on them.

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