How do you feel about Secret of NIMH?
How do you feel about Secret of NIMH?
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With my hands.
It has very good art and animation but it's still weird.
Eh, stuff where rats are friendly with mice instead of hunting/eating them (like in real life) seems odd to me.
Besides, Farthing Wood left me cold and dead to other 'animals in real-world peril' cartoons. The rats may have had a tough time in labs, but they never saw their newborns get put into storage by a shrike.
Unpopular take: all of Don Bluth's movies were forgettable and childish.
Many opinions are unpopular simply because they're wrong.
I feel that it's not really that much of a secret.
dick ballz
Something's worrying me.
Excellent animation, fantastic score by Jerry Goldsmith.
The mysticism and fantastic elements are weird when you look at the oriignal novel, but then Don Bluth is a Mormon and it's to be expected. For some reason Mormon creators can't help but insert their religious sentiment in all their work.
I liked it myself and the art/animation is pretty amazing, but I can't imagine most children liking it a whole lot.
Can you not.
The year will be 2030 and we still won't be sure if the live action remake is gonna get made or not.
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>It is planned as a CGI/live-action hybrid The Smurfs and Alvin and the Chipmunks", and will be "an origin story in which an imperiled mouse protagonist befriends a comical crew of lab rats as they turn hyper-intelligent. They escape a secret laboratory and become the great minds of vermin civilization, forced to outwit the humans hot on their tails."[2] The studio plans to turn the novel into a family franchise.[38]
>On April 10, 2019, it was announced that the Russo brothers will be executive producers of the remake.[40]
Pray to whatever God you have that it never happens.
So why did the human scientists want to make animals intelligent? Sounds dumb because they would rebel.
Sure the animals that escaped just wanted to live in peace, but sooner or later some would consider getting revenge on humans.
The same reason scientists try to do the same thing with real life rodents, to push the boundaries of what is possible.
Humans have made animals more intelligent in real life and they do not rebel. They become more obedient. The process is called domestication. Rodents are notoriously very easy for selective breeding and experiments which also why they are used for real life testing.
this movie is beautiful and mrs. brisby is the best female ever written, no one and nothing can convince me otherwise
>loli
>pedos
don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
It's a rule, the worst offense in history is liking animal characters. Don't expect this thread to last.
They removed that rule though
Threads still get deleted anyway even if they're clean.
Don't talk about cumming on Mrs. Brisby you cunt.
Mrs. Brisby is the ideal woman.
I was so sad at the part when she cried. She deserved better.
Why do we even have a report system when trolling posts like this one remain?
Good question
It's great:
>Amazing animation that kicked Disney's ass into gear
>Main character isn't a hero by any means, but puts herself in harm's way to protect her children
>the rats' makeshift architecture
>Nicodemus and the Owl really feel like greater beings
>Fact of the matter is that the only animal threads that don't get deleted are the Duck Threads and that's because there's lots of homosexuals in there and everyone is being ironic. No one actually finds ducks attractive as they're an unappealing looking animal. But post a mammal? Instant deletion.
Sounds about right. Anyway it seems like the thread is over and it cannot really continue, not with obvious killjoys monitoring the thread.
Good shit. Even if it is a bit depressing at times.
Never saw any of the direct to VHS sequels
> Farthing Wood left me cold and dead to other 'animals in real-world peril' cartoons.
That shit right there is why I still havent seen it.
this
Still struggling to forget the sequel exists.
I have a pretty easy time doing that, considering it was forgotten pretty quickly by everyone. Not sure if I could say the same thing for the upcoming remake, though.
This has been in development hell for at least 15 years. I don't think it will ever happen.
I liked it, I used to watch it and Felidae at least three times a week when I was a kid.
When was the last update on this? I haven't heard anything in years.
Gorgeous looking fun little adventure
I’m still amazed that they somehow made the National Institute of Mental Health seem like some dark mysterious fantasy place/concept, and to this day if I hear the acronym NIMH I think of that impression set by the movie before considering the actual reality.
Is this movie worth seeing as an adult
Apparently Bluth, Goldman and Pomeroy put a second mortgage on their houses to expand the limited budget,(which was like half of a contemporary Disney film) and staff got paid in shares rather than salary for long overtime. The end result was quite impressive for it's time.
Unfortunately the studio got in trouble with the unions for this which indirectly led to the cancellation of their next independent film. Spielberg picked them up eventually but that was under strict management.
No.
It has some comic relief but overall it has kind of a sombre tone. Also some A+ animation quality.
masterpiece
They were probably just experimenting on rats looking for a cure for Alzheimers or some shit and the rats turning out super intelligent was more of a side effect. Most experiments done on animals have an ultimate goal in mind that won’t actually apply to animals.
That or they wanted to make rats into intelligent but obedient slaves that are smart enough to do shit for you but dumb and docile enough that they don’t rebel. Only they fucked up that second part.
Yes
Stop bumping this piece of shit thread you furry fucks!
It's a masterpiece.
The only thing I remember is watching it on VHS as a kid and laughing when the kid rat yells "GASP...PNEUMONIA!!!!"
A live action movie to cash in on nostalgia in development hell you say?
I think we can help with this if we can add a musical number
I read the book in the 4th grade and got lectured by my teacher for being too old to read books about talking animals.
Didn’t know they made an animated film of it. What did Bluth change?
Did you go to a school in a crazy religious cult or something?
Animal media is considered infantile across many cultures, but that's because people have reduced animals as being infantile like shitty Mickey Mouse. Really now, animals lead more violent lives than coddled humans. Humans are the wusses of nature.
The tone is generally very different and Bluth made it so there’s lots of straightup magic instead of just mad science. It mostly focuses on Mrs Brisby ( I think her name might’ve actually been Frisby in the book but I’m pretty sure it’s Brisby in the movie) and lots of stuff about the rats, their backstory, and their society is either extremely condensed, changed, or just cut. Like for example everything about the time between the rats escaping NIMH and them being on the farm is just not mentioned. And the end is very different because magic saves the day.
Basically the main plot and conflict is sorta the same tho: Mrs Brisby’s son is sick so she can’t move him, but she has to move him because the farmer is gonna come clear out the field or whatever, so she has to go to the rats for help. All that’s still there.
I feel like there’s at least a couple of very firmly classified “adult” books that still focus on using talking animals as allegories.
But even besides that point, fourth grade seems way too early to start telling a kid to stop reading certain chapter books because they’re “for kids.” Isn’t that when a kid is only like nine?
They had to change the name Frisby to Brisby due to concerns about the Frisbee trademark.
The movie makes the story more "creepy" I suppose. The NIMH experminetation isn't waved off like it is in the books. If I remember right the book has the Rats talk about how the syringes didn't even hurt and that they were treated well. The movie depiction of NIMH(as brief as it is) is more like an animal test lab.
The plow actually starts in the movie and is a small conflict towards the start that spurs Mrs. Brisby into seeking help. She and Auntie Shrew disable the tractor.
Bluth added a lot of straight up magic which actually ends up working really well. Nicodemus isn't just one of the smartest of the Rats, he's straight up a wizard to. He also dies towards the end.
Jenner is alive in the movie, instead of dead before the events of the story like in the book. He's great and gives the story a much-needed antagonistic force.
They cut out/condensed the backstory for the Rats. We still do see their backstory but like said we don't really see anything between their escape and them being on the farm. The movie just starts with them already having established an intricate, highly-advanced society in the Rose bush on the farm
I remember when I was like nine my third grade teacher got on me once for reading books she thought were too young for me. I guess it was more a reading level thing, because the books in the classroom ranged from picture books to like middle-grade chapter books and she thought I should only be reading the latter because I had a high reading level for my age.
I was reading the picture books pretty much "ironically," like I'd pick out a book I thought looked really stupid and read it 4 laffs, but like try being a little kid and attempting to explain that to a teacher
>Jenner is alive in the movie, instead of dead before the events of the story like in the book. He's great and gives the story a much-needed antagonistic force.
Wasn't Jenner alive in the books, but not nearly as violent, and leads an offshoot of rats that get electrocuted in a hardware store trying to steal electricity and had nothing to do with an open revolt against Nicodemus?
Yeah, trying to explain shit to adults as a child really sucked. I remember my grandmother asking me what I wanted for Christmas, and I said “books,” and she wanted to know what kind. And what I really wanted was to get into classic literature, but I very specifically did not want simplified abridged versions. But I didn’t know the term for “classical literature” or “abridged.” So I pointed to a stack of Great Illustrated Classics books and said “like those but NOT those.” I ended up getting a set of Great Illustrated Classics. I think I even read a couple thinking for some reason that I could trust my gramma to understand what I’d meant and had fulfilled that request, and that the ones she had gotten me wouldn’t be abridged even though I had known before then that that was what the series was for.
The illustrations weren’t even good.
Why did the teacher have books below a third grade reading level in the third grader classroom when she didn’t want the kids reading below their reading level? Sounds like this was a her problem.
As a kid, did you bitch about a cartoon movie having talking animals too?
I find bipedal anthro animals interesting. The only animal types I don't care about in media are Talking Animals. As for human protagonists most of the time I cannot stand them because writers do not make them interesting.
Does anyone else feel the same?