What if Batman was actually Badman?

What if Batman was actually Badman?

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Then he'd probably be bad.

He is, though. Bad, i mean.

You laugh but I'm actually happy Tomasi decided to do something with the Arkham Knight name. Sure as hell better than what Rocksteady did

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Nobody cares about what he did, though. The story made no fucking sense.

Unironically great comic

No, you asked what if Batman was actually Badman, and I answered that he'd probably be bad. You didn't make a statement, you made a question.

How so?

Superman and even Wonder Woman get milestone issues that cherish all the good and heroic things the character have done. Batman gets called Donald Trump in his.

Making Arkham Knight Arkham's loli daughter that magically grew into adulthood was stupid as fuck.

Wait do you mean there was an odd passage of time or did she really age by unnatural means?

i lost count to how many times they used this gimmick.

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The fact that this was the big DC #1000 storyline still amaze me.

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>Batman gets called Donald Trump in his.
It was one story and it was done by a villain, you're not supposed to agree with the autist.

You don't do a superhero milestone issue asking if maybe they are actually bad.

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>Arkham Knight is an actual Arkham
Remember when comics were dumb and fun?

It's a VILLAIN who's asking it, anyone who isn't a retard knows that Batman is not a bad guy.

>anyone who isn't a retard knows that Batman is not a bad guy.
But maybe, like... he is?

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So you're just pretending to be retarded then.

So the concept of an unreliable narrator is lost on you?
Oh what, was the Jason Todd reveal better to you?

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>Oh what, was the Jason Todd reveal better to you?
Yes.

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hey i think you skipped a page

>So the concept of an unreliable narrator is lost on you?
The point is that it was stupid to cap-off Batman big milestone issue with this shit. Imagine doing this with Superman.

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>Oh what, was the Jason Todd reveal better to you?
Not at all. Astrid Arkham is dumb but worth a chuckle

How many anti-batman there been? can you name them all?

No.

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That depends on what classifies as an "Anti-Batman". But I'll try
>Arkham Knight
>Bane
>Wrath
>Killer Moth
>Prometheus
>Owlman
>Batzarro
>Man-Bat

nah, i'm pretty sure there's a page with batman fighting talia and ra's between the man-bat and poison ivy and catwoman pages

Not that user but I didn't like that either. She's shown as being a child while Batman is bringing in Joker just like it's nothing and she's growing up with all the usual villains. Then she's a grown up. I'll say she's 18 at the youngest.

It isn't really unreliable narration when subsequent issues show that Tomasi is a firm believer in the "Batman creates his own villains" mentality.

One thing I respect about DC is that they keep good artists around no matter the state of their writers. The difference between them and most of Marvel's titles is staggering and I'm a Marvel guy.

According to Damian she's not that old.

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It never really seemed that way to me.

That's because you weren't paying attention.

Or maybe you're seeing things that aren't there.

But that is dumb fun tho user.

Not that guy, but remember the group of deformed freaks from Batman & Robin? Like the dude with a batarang lodged in his head?

Like Bendis did with Ronald Zurg?

>seeing things that aren't there
Her entire arc literally revolves around how Bruce's actions made Astrid turn in to the Arkham Knight, user. While it portrays her as being mentally unhinged, it never says she's in the wrong for thinking it either. Bruce Wayne being Batman is literally depicted as being a curse on Gotham.

>While it portrays her as being mentally unhinged, it never says she's in the wrong for thinking it either.
The fuck do you want? For the comic to spell it out that the obviously crazy and stupid villain is in the wrong? She was planning to blind the whole fucking city because of a misunderstanding about her mother's death, this isn't the story of a strong independent woman standing up to the Big Bad Bat, it's the story about a stupid ass kid who grew around psychos and is arguably as deranged as them.
>Bruce Wayne being Batman is literally depicted as being a curse on Gotham.
If Tomasi's intention was to make it seem like Batman is unironically bad, then he wouldn't write stories where Batman saves Gotham and its inhabitants over and over and how his crusade is one that he should never doubt.

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>For the comic to spell it out that the obviously crazy and stupid villain is in the wrong?
But it never depicts her as being in the wrong for thinking that Batman is a monster. The entire POV of her childhood is told from the view of her father, who is actively trying to absolve Batman of blame, and it still depicts him as being a violent monster and the inhabitants of Arkham as in the moral right for defending her mother and her.
>this isn't the story of a strong independent woman standing up to the Big Bad Bat, it's the story about a stupid ass kid who grew around psychos and is arguably as deranged as them
It's the story about a girl becoming corrupted by Gotham in to insanity and driven in to being a monster by the Batman violently dealing with criminals.
>then he wouldn't write stories where Batman saves Gotham and its inhabitants over and over and how his crusade is one that he should never doubt.
And he wouldn't write stories where he constantly has to deal with the direct consequences of his crusade literally coming back to try and kill him.

>it never depicts her as being in the wrong for thinking that Batman is a monster.
She is the VILLAIN, any normal reader who isn't stupid knows she's in the wrong.
>The entire POV of her childhood is told from the view of her father, who is actively trying to absolve Batman of blame
He is trying to absolve himself of blame, he could've told her the truth about her mother's death but he didn't because he'd rather have her hate Batman than hate him for not being there.
>it still depicts him as being a violent monster and the inhabitants of Arkham as in the moral right for defending her mother and her.
Batman seems like a monster to HER, the crazy girl who obviously doesn't know any better, us, the readers know that Batman is a force of good.
>It's the story about a girl becoming corrupted by Gotham in to insanity and driven in to being a monster by the Batman violently dealing with criminals.
It's a story of bad parenting really, Arkham isn't a place to raise a child and Batman isn't any more violent than the criminals he faces, but Astrid conveniently ignores that because she grew around them.
>he wouldn't write stories where he constantly has to deal with the direct consequences of his crusade literally coming back to try and kill him.
"People who hate Batman because he affected them negatively during his crusade" isn't a new concept, and it sure as hell doesn't mean all his other stories where Batman does good suddenly don't exist.

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This got me thinking. What would Earth 3 versions of Arkham Knight and AzBats be?

John Paul Valley's father in both

I really wish we could get some Earth 3 ongoing or something along those lines one of these days.

How dumb. Only works with an American accent, most people in the world couldn't turn bat into bad if they tried.

That's a different guy.

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I'd really like them to do an Earth 3 imprint. Do it like the Dark Multiverse one, where it kind of fleshes out the universe and shows us their version of various events.
Too bad if it actually ever happened, we'd get Bendis' retarded version of Earth 3.

I hope whoever wrote this page was paid very little money.

FPBP

I bet he was paid a lot just to spite you.

Sadly, probably not. The massive hack is still working.

Dude, it's comics, no one's getting rich.
>But Morrison!
Makes most of his money off of owning several rental properties.

It's not that hard if we're being honest.

>it never says she's in the wrong for thinking it either.
Her being batshit insane and a bad guy raised by even more insane people in fucking Arkham wasn't good enough for you?
The story has to say "Hey kids, this person is crazy and bad so don't be like them" for you to understand it?

I wasn't saying they are paying him a lot, i'm saying he is getting money for a job he clearly isn't qualified to do.